Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 We are often so consumed with keeping on as normally as possible that we are unaware of how much the pain is changing our behavior, our thinking, our relationships. First step, admit that there is a problem. Second step, get professional help. Ask for referrals to pain clinics and to a psychiatrist (hopefully one that has experience with chronic pain patients). Third step: Do what the doctors tell you to do. They wouldn't prescribe the medication if they didn't think it would make a difference. Have faith in the doctors. Fourth step: Stop worrying about addiction. If you've been on this list long enough you know that less than 2% of chronic pain patients ever become classically addicted. The chances you would become addicted are close to zero! Fifth step: Take your medications faithfully. Don't skip a dose because you feel okay. The objective is to stay ahead of the pain, to keep it at bay, not wait until it attacks you again before seeking the medication. Take the medications on the prescribed schedule and don't take less than you are suppose to. Sixth step: Keep your doctors informed about how things are going. If the pain relief doesn't last as long as the doctor hoped it would, ask for a change in doseage or in frequency. If you don't tell the doctor you have a problem, he/she can't read your mind. Been there, done that! Ray in Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 I can understand some of what you write here. I go through periods where I just get so fed up with medication and routines that I just refuse to take my meds. It's like, I know it's only going to hurt me, but I just feel like fighting the whole situation - rejecting it. And as you write, my husband has had to almost force me to take my meds when I've been in the " no medication for me anymore " corner. I'm just so tired of the meds, but at the same time they help me to live a somewhat functional life. I think that's what we need to focus on. Something has been taken away from us either in the form of disability or pain - whatever, and the medication or other types of therapy are there to help " fill the hole " that has been taken away. It's hard to explain, but that's how I look at it now. It's like a circle where you take away a piece - it's not " whole " until you fill the empty part with some type of help. For many of us this is medication. It's not our choice, but it's our reality. Anyways, that's my point of view on this. It's not an easy life.....!! Hugs, - H - >Greetings, > >It's been a while, a very full while, since I posted here. Now I have >a question, that I am posting to more than one of my chronic pain >lists. I hope someone can help me. > >In 1999, I wrote a poem, Exodus (posted again at the bottom of this >post). That was two years ago. One would think that I was past that >stage. I have just discovered I am not. > >What do I do, when the desire to be 'normal,' and not a druggie, >causes me to deny that I am in pain and say " I do not 'need' to take >pain meds " to the point where my husband practically has to force me >to take meds? At which point I go, " Oh, I guess I did hurt " . I show >physical signs of pain (inability to walk, talking to myself, that >grimace that some people say is a smile, but we know better, etc.) >but resist STRONGLY the natural, helpful path of taking the drugs I >fought to be prescribed. > >What is going on? It's as if some part of my psyche considers being >in pain to be the natural state. Maybe I deserve this pain. Maybe I >am just faking to get attention. ANYTHING but say, I am in pain, I >shouldn't be and I will not accept it. > >Help please, > >BB & D > J. Bidwell Glaze > > > Exodus > " Denial is not a river in Egypt " -Mark Twain > >I am leaving, >I am leaving! >I am leaving Egypt. > >I remember walking by the banks of deNile, >While the soft moonlight gently caressed my face. > >Gentle words: > & #61623; " I'm fine. " > & #61623; " Discomfort " > & #61623; " I'll be OK " > & #61623; " No problem " > >Whispered in the darkness , > >And awful words: > & #61623; pain > & #61623; dependence > & #61623; grief > & #61623; disability > > Could find no place as the harsh suns of deNile's day overpowered >them. > >I walk now across a dangerous desert of unknowns, deNile behind me. > >The warm and sheltering dark are behind me, >An illusion. >The sweetness of coming success that deNile's suns illumined, >A mirage. > >I am leaving the comfortable hole >I had dug with my own hands. >I had dug a retreat with my own actions, >My own lies. > >I am leaving. >I am, >Timidly, >Step by terror filled step, >Leaving my warm, welcoming, >Cozy place by deNile. > >Out of denial, >Out of Egypt >Into pain. > >But pain is real. >The pain is true. >As the old lies can never be. > >copyright 1999 J. Bidwell Glaze > > > >Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up >URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: >chronic_pain-listowneregroups >Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: >chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners >chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email >chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list >chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal >chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Hi I think I can undrstand. Your poem says so much. For ages now, I keep feeling that I am weak and giving into myself because I acknowledge my pain. I feel like one of those self-pitying, attention seeking sycophants. But it hurts. Trying to keep everybody happy, lest they worry about my pain causes even more pain. And don't come near me when I withdrea. Don't ask what is wrong, because if I have to tell you that it hurts to even breath, I will feel like a failure. And if I take another painkiller, it will cause me t believe that I enjoy the high from the painkiller as much as the relief it doesn't give. I am sorry. This is very garbled. I guess something you wrote just triggered my anger. I am angry that no one believes that MS is painful. I am angry that everyone thinks that pain is a " convenient reason " to not go to work. I am angry that I cannot do the things I used to because I am giving into myself by acknowleding the pain. I am sorry. this is really going a bit mad here. Thanks for listening. Love Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Hi all, If we admit to pain and then admit we just can't do the things we used to do, are we not failures? Aren't we less than human? After all, everybody else is doing ok and here we sit whining. We should just get our act together and go on as if nothing happened and nothing is wrong. Pills? Only hypochrondiacs take pills! You should just learn to live with the pain and stop bellyaching! Isn't this the way we were all brought up? So now when we know better, internally all those things we were taught take over. I'll cook that 18 course meal if it kills me! And it almost does but I won't complain. Yeah, right! Now couple chronic pain with the approaching holidays. I have to be perfect! I have to do everything I always did before! Then when we can't it re-enforces the feelings of inadequacy and triggers depression. Isn't this cycle fun? Eventually we all have to find acceptance and learn to deal with the cards we were dealt. I'm just not there yet!! Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 I believe we should all just strive to deal with our disease and the pain it causes with grace and dignity. Listen to your body. Take your medications. If you need to rest, do it. I don't think it makes us failures to admit our limitations. It makes us heroes to admit our limitations and go on with life doing what we can. Joy In Dallas RA and all associated syndromes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Amen Ray! I would add though that as women we've grown to distrust doctors and should know that it's all right to switch to find someone who will treat us with the respect and dignity we deserve. Lois in PA Re: help please We are often so consumed with keeping on as normally as possible that we are unaware of how much the pain is changing our behavior, our thinking, our relationships. First step, admit that there is a problem. Second step, get professional help. Ask for referrals to pain clinics and to a psychiatrist (hopefully one that has experience with chronic pain patients). Third step: Do what the doctors tell you to do. They wouldn't prescribe the medication if they didn't think it would make a difference. Have faith in the doctors. Fourth step: Stop worrying about addiction. If you've been on this list long enough you know that less than 2% of chronic pain patients ever become classically addicted. The chances you would become addicted are close to zero! Fifth step: Take your medications faithfully. Don't skip a dose because you feel okay. The objective is to stay ahead of the pain, to keep it at bay, not wait until it attacks you again before seeking the medication. Take the medications on the prescribed schedule and don't take less than you are suppose to. Sixth step: Keep your doctors informed about how things are going. If the pain relief doesn't last as long as the doctor hoped it would, ask for a change in doseage or in frequency. If you don't tell the doctor you have a problem, he/she can't read your mind. Been there, done that! Ray in Virginia Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Amen Ray! I would add though that as women we've grown to distrust doctors and should know that it's all right to switch to find someone who will treat us with the respect and dignity we deserve. Lois in PA Re: help please We are often so consumed with keeping on as normally as possible that we are unaware of how much the pain is changing our behavior, our thinking, our relationships. First step, admit that there is a problem. Second step, get professional help. Ask for referrals to pain clinics and to a psychiatrist (hopefully one that has experience with chronic pain patients). Third step: Do what the doctors tell you to do. They wouldn't prescribe the medication if they didn't think it would make a difference. Have faith in the doctors. Fourth step: Stop worrying about addiction. If you've been on this list long enough you know that less than 2% of chronic pain patients ever become classically addicted. The chances you would become addicted are close to zero! Fifth step: Take your medications faithfully. Don't skip a dose because you feel okay. The objective is to stay ahead of the pain, to keep it at bay, not wait until it attacks you again before seeking the medication. Take the medications on the prescribed schedule and don't take less than you are suppose to. Sixth step: Keep your doctors informed about how things are going. If the pain relief doesn't last as long as the doctor hoped it would, ask for a change in doseage or in frequency. If you don't tell the doctor you have a problem, he/she can't read your mind. Been there, done that! Ray in Virginia Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Hi : Know how you feel! Sometimes, when I go back to my pain dr because I'm in more pain, I feel like I have to apologize for not being a masochist (a person who loves inflicting pain on themselves). For many years the message I (and a number of women) got when we complained of pain or symptoms was " It's all in your head, lady. Get back to work you'll be all right. " And the ultimate " Learn to live with it. Every one has some level of pain. " As time went by I came to recognize doctors who gave me this line as incompetent bigots. Supposed professionals who had allowed their bigotry against women to cloud their medical knowledge. I even had to file an EEO complaint against one of these supposed doctors. During the hearing I kept on calling him " Mr. " instead of " Dr. " He went ballistic! The investigator from Washington DC just told me to continue. I won the complaint on both handicap AND sex discrimination - purely on the facts. Anyway. It's a hard way of thinking to break. I'm continually thinking I'm being lazy when in actuality I'm either in pain or sick (again another apology for not being a masochist). I don't think we will ever stop thinking this way. But we will eventually be able to spot it before it does us too much damage. Keep up the fight. We only have our lives to reclaim. Lois in PA help please Greetings, It's been a while, a very full while, since I posted here. Now I have a question, that I am posting to more than one of my chronic pain lists. I hope someone can help me. In 1999, I wrote a poem, Exodus (posted again at the bottom of this post). That was two years ago. One would think that I was past that stage. I have just discovered I am not. What do I do, when the desire to be 'normal,' and not a druggie, causes me to deny that I am in pain and say " I do not 'need' to take pain meds " to the point where my husband practically has to force me to take meds? At which point I go, " Oh, I guess I did hurt " . I show physical signs of pain (inability to walk, talking to myself, that grimace that some people say is a smile, but we know better, etc.) but resist STRONGLY the natural, helpful path of taking the drugs I fought to be prescribed. What is going on? It's as if some part of my psyche considers being in pain to be the natural state. Maybe I deserve this pain. Maybe I am just faking to get attention. ANYTHING but say, I am in pain, I shouldn't be and I will not accept it. Help please, BB & D J. Bidwell Glaze Exodus " Denial is not a river in Egypt " -Mark Twain I am leaving, I am leaving! I am leaving Egypt. I remember walking by the banks of deNile, While the soft moonlight gently caressed my face. Gentle words: & #61623; " I'm fine. " & #61623; " Discomfort " & #61623; " I'll be OK " & #61623; " No problem " Whispered in the darkness , And awful words: & #61623; pain & #61623; dependence & #61623; grief & #61623; disability Could find no place as the harsh suns of deNile's day overpowered them. I walk now across a dangerous desert of unknowns, deNile behind me. The warm and sheltering dark are behind me, An illusion. The sweetness of coming success that deNile's suns illumined, A mirage. I am leaving the comfortable hole I had dug with my own hands. I had dug a retreat with my own actions, My own lies. I am leaving. I am, Timidly, Step by terror filled step, Leaving my warm, welcoming, Cozy place by deNile. Out of denial, Out of Egypt Into pain. But pain is real. The pain is true. As the old lies can never be. copyright 1999 J. Bidwell Glaze Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Hi : Know how you feel! Sometimes, when I go back to my pain dr because I'm in more pain, I feel like I have to apologize for not being a masochist (a person who loves inflicting pain on themselves). For many years the message I (and a number of women) got when we complained of pain or symptoms was " It's all in your head, lady. Get back to work you'll be all right. " And the ultimate " Learn to live with it. Every one has some level of pain. " As time went by I came to recognize doctors who gave me this line as incompetent bigots. Supposed professionals who had allowed their bigotry against women to cloud their medical knowledge. I even had to file an EEO complaint against one of these supposed doctors. During the hearing I kept on calling him " Mr. " instead of " Dr. " He went ballistic! The investigator from Washington DC just told me to continue. I won the complaint on both handicap AND sex discrimination - purely on the facts. Anyway. It's a hard way of thinking to break. I'm continually thinking I'm being lazy when in actuality I'm either in pain or sick (again another apology for not being a masochist). I don't think we will ever stop thinking this way. But we will eventually be able to spot it before it does us too much damage. Keep up the fight. We only have our lives to reclaim. Lois in PA help please Greetings, It's been a while, a very full while, since I posted here. Now I have a question, that I am posting to more than one of my chronic pain lists. I hope someone can help me. In 1999, I wrote a poem, Exodus (posted again at the bottom of this post). That was two years ago. One would think that I was past that stage. I have just discovered I am not. What do I do, when the desire to be 'normal,' and not a druggie, causes me to deny that I am in pain and say " I do not 'need' to take pain meds " to the point where my husband practically has to force me to take meds? At which point I go, " Oh, I guess I did hurt " . I show physical signs of pain (inability to walk, talking to myself, that grimace that some people say is a smile, but we know better, etc.) but resist STRONGLY the natural, helpful path of taking the drugs I fought to be prescribed. What is going on? It's as if some part of my psyche considers being in pain to be the natural state. Maybe I deserve this pain. Maybe I am just faking to get attention. ANYTHING but say, I am in pain, I shouldn't be and I will not accept it. Help please, BB & D J. Bidwell Glaze Exodus " Denial is not a river in Egypt " -Mark Twain I am leaving, I am leaving! I am leaving Egypt. I remember walking by the banks of deNile, While the soft moonlight gently caressed my face. Gentle words: & #61623; " I'm fine. " & #61623; " Discomfort " & #61623; " I'll be OK " & #61623; " No problem " Whispered in the darkness , And awful words: & #61623; pain & #61623; dependence & #61623; grief & #61623; disability Could find no place as the harsh suns of deNile's day overpowered them. I walk now across a dangerous desert of unknowns, deNile behind me. The warm and sheltering dark are behind me, An illusion. The sweetness of coming success that deNile's suns illumined, A mirage. I am leaving the comfortable hole I had dug with my own hands. I had dug a retreat with my own actions, My own lies. I am leaving. I am, Timidly, Step by terror filled step, Leaving my warm, welcoming, Cozy place by deNile. Out of denial, Out of Egypt Into pain. But pain is real. The pain is true. As the old lies can never be. copyright 1999 J. Bidwell Glaze Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Hi : Know how you feel! Sometimes, when I go back to my pain dr because I'm in more pain, I feel like I have to apologize for not being a masochist (a person who loves inflicting pain on themselves). For many years the message I (and a number of women) got when we complained of pain or symptoms was " It's all in your head, lady. Get back to work you'll be all right. " And the ultimate " Learn to live with it. Every one has some level of pain. " As time went by I came to recognize doctors who gave me this line as incompetent bigots. Supposed professionals who had allowed their bigotry against women to cloud their medical knowledge. I even had to file an EEO complaint against one of these supposed doctors. During the hearing I kept on calling him " Mr. " instead of " Dr. " He went ballistic! The investigator from Washington DC just told me to continue. I won the complaint on both handicap AND sex discrimination - purely on the facts. Anyway. It's a hard way of thinking to break. I'm continually thinking I'm being lazy when in actuality I'm either in pain or sick (again another apology for not being a masochist). I don't think we will ever stop thinking this way. But we will eventually be able to spot it before it does us too much damage. Keep up the fight. We only have our lives to reclaim. Lois in PA help please Greetings, It's been a while, a very full while, since I posted here. Now I have a question, that I am posting to more than one of my chronic pain lists. I hope someone can help me. In 1999, I wrote a poem, Exodus (posted again at the bottom of this post). That was two years ago. One would think that I was past that stage. I have just discovered I am not. What do I do, when the desire to be 'normal,' and not a druggie, causes me to deny that I am in pain and say " I do not 'need' to take pain meds " to the point where my husband practically has to force me to take meds? At which point I go, " Oh, I guess I did hurt " . I show physical signs of pain (inability to walk, talking to myself, that grimace that some people say is a smile, but we know better, etc.) but resist STRONGLY the natural, helpful path of taking the drugs I fought to be prescribed. What is going on? It's as if some part of my psyche considers being in pain to be the natural state. Maybe I deserve this pain. Maybe I am just faking to get attention. ANYTHING but say, I am in pain, I shouldn't be and I will not accept it. Help please, BB & D J. Bidwell Glaze Exodus " Denial is not a river in Egypt " -Mark Twain I am leaving, I am leaving! I am leaving Egypt. I remember walking by the banks of deNile, While the soft moonlight gently caressed my face. Gentle words: & #61623; " I'm fine. " & #61623; " Discomfort " & #61623; " I'll be OK " & #61623; " No problem " Whispered in the darkness , And awful words: & #61623; pain & #61623; dependence & #61623; grief & #61623; disability Could find no place as the harsh suns of deNile's day overpowered them. I walk now across a dangerous desert of unknowns, deNile behind me. The warm and sheltering dark are behind me, An illusion. The sweetness of coming success that deNile's suns illumined, A mirage. I am leaving the comfortable hole I had dug with my own hands. I had dug a retreat with my own actions, My own lies. I am leaving. I am, Timidly, Step by terror filled step, Leaving my warm, welcoming, Cozy place by deNile. Out of denial, Out of Egypt Into pain. But pain is real. The pain is true. As the old lies can never be. copyright 1999 J. Bidwell Glaze Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Janis, I'm sorry to hear you feel so much bitterness. Yes, we all do have to find our way through the pain and discomfort and unpredictability of our diseases. Do I feel bad when things don't get done? Yes, but I try not to make mountains out of mole hills. If the dishes aren't washed tonight, I'll get to them tomorrow. If the plants I bought don't get planted or repotted today, they'll wait until I can get to it, with a little water. My wife and family have lived through this disease with me. At first many had their doubts, including doctors. After years of symptoms I finally got a correct diagnosis. When other family members developed auto-immune diseases, they apologized to me for their previous behavior. Now I have a supportive, encouraging family. When the members of the church I pastored got upset because of my fight with pain and fatigue, I resigned...note they weren't paying me anything. The stress was not worth the battle even if I had founded the church on my own that now hosts 1,500 at weekend services and just finished putting up a 3.5 million dollar facility. I got the ball rolling, even if I couldn't stay to see the finished product. Each one of us has to try to see life from more than one angle. Due to my own Reiters Syndrome with Inflammatory Bowel Disease I can lose 25 pounds in less than two weeks. Hey, it hurts while its going on, but when its over I'm 25 pounds lighter! One of the biggest problems with arthritic diseases is being overweight. So I've found a silver lining in my cloud. I hope you will be able to relax, to find simpler ways to do things, to ask others for help, to realize that you aren't responsible for everyone else, nor for everything that happens. Reaching that point can bring its own joy as you put the anger at the disease away, and stop directing it toward yourself and others. God is only a prayer away. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Janis, I'm sorry to hear you feel so much bitterness. Yes, we all do have to find our way through the pain and discomfort and unpredictability of our diseases. Do I feel bad when things don't get done? Yes, but I try not to make mountains out of mole hills. If the dishes aren't washed tonight, I'll get to them tomorrow. If the plants I bought don't get planted or repotted today, they'll wait until I can get to it, with a little water. My wife and family have lived through this disease with me. At first many had their doubts, including doctors. After years of symptoms I finally got a correct diagnosis. When other family members developed auto-immune diseases, they apologized to me for their previous behavior. Now I have a supportive, encouraging family. When the members of the church I pastored got upset because of my fight with pain and fatigue, I resigned...note they weren't paying me anything. The stress was not worth the battle even if I had founded the church on my own that now hosts 1,500 at weekend services and just finished putting up a 3.5 million dollar facility. I got the ball rolling, even if I couldn't stay to see the finished product. Each one of us has to try to see life from more than one angle. Due to my own Reiters Syndrome with Inflammatory Bowel Disease I can lose 25 pounds in less than two weeks. Hey, it hurts while its going on, but when its over I'm 25 pounds lighter! One of the biggest problems with arthritic diseases is being overweight. So I've found a silver lining in my cloud. I hope you will be able to relax, to find simpler ways to do things, to ask others for help, to realize that you aren't responsible for everyone else, nor for everything that happens. Reaching that point can bring its own joy as you put the anger at the disease away, and stop directing it toward yourself and others. God is only a prayer away. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 Ray, It's true that only someone that has or is experiencing chronic pain can understand what we're going through. I've had teachers at school ask me how long I was going to JUST work parttime. They have no clue what I go through and I guess I shouldn't expect them to. However, it is frustrating when I feel like they think I am some how getting off easy just working parttime. I would gladly work fulltime if I weren't in so much pain. I have to work twice as hard when I'm there, take work home, work on weekends and drive back to work when I have parent meetins. Oh, well. Sunny Ray in Virginia wrote: > Janis, > I'm sorry to hear you feel so much bitterness. Yes, we all do have to find > our way through the pain and discomfort and unpredictability of our > diseases. > > Do I feel bad when things don't get done? Yes, but I try not to make > mountains out of mole hills. If the dishes aren't washed tonight, I'll get > to them tomorrow. If the plants I bought don't get planted or repotted > today, they'll wait until I can get to it, with a little water. > > My wife and family have lived through this disease with me. At first many > had their doubts, including doctors. After years of symptoms I finally got > a correct diagnosis. When other family members developed auto-immune > diseases, they apologized to me for their previous behavior. Now I have a > supportive, encouraging family. > > When the members of the church I pastored got upset because of my fight with > pain and fatigue, I resigned...note they weren't paying me anything. The > stress was not worth the battle even if I had founded the church on my own > that now hosts 1,500 at weekend services and just finished putting up a 3.5 > million dollar facility. I got the ball rolling, even if I couldn't stay to > see the finished product. > > Each one of us has to try to see life from more than one angle. Due to my > own Reiters Syndrome with Inflammatory Bowel Disease I can lose 25 pounds in > less than two weeks. Hey, it hurts while its going on, but when its over > I'm 25 pounds lighter! One of the biggest problems with arthritic diseases > is being overweight. So I've found a silver lining in my cloud. > > I hope you will be able to relax, to find simpler ways to do things, to ask > others for help, to realize that you aren't responsible for everyone else, > nor for everything that happens. Reaching that point can bring its own joy > as you put the anger at the disease away, and stop directing it toward > yourself and others. God is only a prayer away. > Ray > > > Know someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroups > Manage your subscription with several special email addresses: > chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners > chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email > chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list > chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal > chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and to show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. Donna wrote: In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and to show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. Donna wrote: In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Good description i certainly couldn't do better. It is basically one hard and fast breath into a 'tube' with numbers on. Were ever it stops is your 'peak flow reading' anything over 350 is good for me. below 350 and i start being more careful.. keep a closer eye on things an try to get it back up again. Before the paramedics put me on a nebulizor yesterday my peak flow was down to just under 200 which is terrible! Now its right back up to 400 and so far has settled there. Peak flow meters are just an easy way of monitoring your own asthma. The figures vary from personto person. The highest i have ever hit is 450.. an that was in hospital after taking the nebulizor off. Most drug stores will sell you a peak flow meter (at least they do in the UK) well worth getting. hope this helps. > Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you > are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and > to show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is > worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, > and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the > ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. > Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. > > > > > > Donna wrote: > In the following post, what does " peak flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have > diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks > for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think > I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out > the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on > a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving > myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I > was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but > i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now > 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know > if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had > an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and > i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went > to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse > and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. > when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Good description i certainly couldn't do better. It is basically one hard and fast breath into a 'tube' with numbers on. Were ever it stops is your 'peak flow reading' anything over 350 is good for me. below 350 and i start being more careful.. keep a closer eye on things an try to get it back up again. Before the paramedics put me on a nebulizor yesterday my peak flow was down to just under 200 which is terrible! Now its right back up to 400 and so far has settled there. Peak flow meters are just an easy way of monitoring your own asthma. The figures vary from personto person. The highest i have ever hit is 450.. an that was in hospital after taking the nebulizor off. Most drug stores will sell you a peak flow meter (at least they do in the UK) well worth getting. hope this helps. > Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you > are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and > to show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is > worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, > and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the > ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. > Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. > > > > > > Donna wrote: > In the following post, what does " peak flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have > diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks > for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think > I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out > the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on > a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving > myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I > was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but > i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now > 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know > if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had > an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and > i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went > to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse > and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. > when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Peak flow is a basic record of your lung capacity, measured by blowing into a tube which has a reading from about 0 to 900, the higher the score, the better your breathing is, the lower the score, the worse your breathing is. Often used as a predictor tool by asthmatics to predict severe asthma attacks by recording your peak flow every day and seeing if you have a drop in your peak flow. Saul Re: HELP please In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Peak flow is a basic record of your lung capacity, measured by blowing into a tube which has a reading from about 0 to 900, the higher the score, the better your breathing is, the lower the score, the worse your breathing is. Often used as a predictor tool by asthmatics to predict severe asthma attacks by recording your peak flow every day and seeing if you have a drop in your peak flow. Saul Re: HELP please In the following post, what does "peak flow" mean?? I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. Thanks so much, DonnaGeneral O'Neill wrote: Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatmentawas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managedto hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400so.. so far so good!> I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc> didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it> flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see> him and that would be the next step.> > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital> (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go> see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays.> > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started> > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the> > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes> > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take> > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for> a> > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Thanks cindy, > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before> > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna> > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've> > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with weather> > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I> > think> > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I> > may> > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are> > supposed> > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope> you> > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't> had> > an> > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the> > > caring> > > side of your co-worker(s)!> > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP> > > (Certified> > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a> > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself> to> > > the> > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in> > case.) > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was> in> > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical> > > office. > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I> would> > > have> > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my> > inhaler> > > to> > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my> asthma> > > haywire.> > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote:> > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i> > have> > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now 23> > and> > > in> > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know if> > its> > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had an> > > attack> > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i> > > thought> > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to> > work> > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse and> > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when> > that> > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it frightened> > me> > > a> > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a> > > dramatic> > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the> nebulizor> > > and> > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better> > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers.> > > Tony Robbins> > > > > > God Bless America!> > > > > > ---------------------------------------> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Donna- Peak Flow Meter helps people to understand where their breathing is at. If it is low, that can sometimes be a warning that an asthma attack is about to come. --- Donna wrote: > In the following post, what does " peak flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It > fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just > started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on > the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have > diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and > take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks > for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma > before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. > I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also > think I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and > hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I > haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out > the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me > on a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving > myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just > in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I > was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the > Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. > I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, > but i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am > now 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont > know if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i > had an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed > and i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I > went to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got > worse and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. > when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of > a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask > better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Donna- Peak Flow Meter helps people to understand where their breathing is at. If it is low, that can sometimes be a warning that an asthma attack is about to come. --- Donna wrote: > In the following post, what does " peak flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It > fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just > started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on > the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have > diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and > take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks > for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma > before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. > I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also > think I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and > hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I > haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out > the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me > on a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving > myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just > in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I > was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the > Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. > I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, > but i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am > now 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont > know if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i > had an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed > and i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I > went to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got > worse and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. > when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of > a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask > better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 - You are very correct about the peak flow meter. I have one as well. I got mine from a hospital about a 1/2 hour away from my school. shell --- Bill and Canter wrote: > Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you > are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and to > show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is > worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, > and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the > ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. > Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. > > > > > > Donna wrote:In the following post, what does " peak > flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now > 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know > if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had > an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse > and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 - You are very correct about the peak flow meter. I have one as well. I got mine from a hospital about a 1/2 hour away from my school. shell --- Bill and Canter wrote: > Peak flow is measured with a meter you blow into. It shows how much air you > are moving out with a hard breath into the meter. Ask your dr for one and to > show you how to use it. If your peak flow drops too low your breathing is > worsening. My normal range is 400-500. If I go below 250, I'm in trouble, > and if a nebulizer treatment doesn't help, and I keep dropping, I go to the > ER. I have gone higher than 500 but not often. Hope this helps a little. > Maybe someone else can be a bit more technical than this. > > > > > > Donna wrote:In the following post, what does " peak > flow " mean?? > I'm really new to all of this and am feeling very overwhelmed. > Thanks so much, > Donna > > General O'Neill wrote: > Hmm... really dont wannt end up on them. My peak flow before treatment > awas 200. after the nebulizor when i was still at hospital i managed > to hit 450! (a new record) just did it now before bed an still hit 400 > so.. so far so good! > > > > > > > > > I hope it behaves. I heard the steroids called the devil drugs. It fits. > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > Luckily since it was my first trip to hospital for asthma the doc > > didn't give me no steroid tablets. however he did warn that if it > > flares up bad again in the next 48 hours then i have to go back an see > > him and that would be the next step. > > > > I'll see how it goes, its been fine since i got home from the hospital > > (as the day cooled down?) and i am back at work tommorrow. I may go > > see my Asthma Nurse next, see how controlled it stays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent roughly 6 hours in the ER in February with mine. I just started > > > antibiotics. I went to my dr's office and saw the CNP. She put me on the > > > Z-pac to see if I can avoid the steriods. They caused me to have diabetes > > > and will spike my sugar levels. So I'm going to be a good girl and take > > > care of myself in hopes it settles down. I go back in a couple weeks for > > a > > > recheck. Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > General O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks cindy, > > > > > > I admit it scared me, i've never been in hospital for my asthma before > > > even if it was only a few hours on oxygen and nebs. I'm just gonna > > > keep a closer eye on my peak flow tho generally thats fine until i've > > > been outside, being out side and walking sets me off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group Layla. I have problems with my asthma with > weather > > > > changes, too. I am seeing my CNP today as I'm having some problems. I > > > think > > > > it's mostly allergies, but (not meaning to be too gross) I also think I > > > may > > > > have an infection getting started. Take your medicine like you are > > > supposed > > > > to. A lot of times you just have to ride it out. Take care, and hope > > you > > > > feel better soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B wrote: > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > That must have been scary for both you and your coworkers! I haven't > > had > > > an > > > > asthma since before I left to come come. At least that brought out the > > > > caring > > > > side of your co-worker(s)! > > > > > > > > The week prior to my second semester finals, I went to go see a CNP > > > > (Certified > > > > Nurse Practicioner). She noticed a little bit of wheezing, put me on a > > > > nebulizer and sent me home. Later that week, I ended up driving myself > > to > > > > the > > > > ER with breathing problems. (One of my friends went with me just in > > > case.) > > > > They did some chest X-rays, put me on a nebulizer, and pulse ox. I was > > in > > > > there for 3 hours, compared to the 1/2 hour that I was at the Medical > > > > office. > > > > I am now back home permanently and haven't had too many problems. I > > would > > > > have > > > > some very minor problems on sunday mornings and I would just use my > > > inhaler > > > > to > > > > calm everything. Lately, though, I think the weather is sending my > > asthma > > > > haywire. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- coloneloneill wrote: > > > > <Hi all, I live in the North east of UK and am new to this group, but i > > > have > > > > had asthma for a few years now. I first got diagnosed at 18, i am now > 23 > > > and > > > > in > > > > that timemy asthma has been well controlled. until now... I dont know > if > > > its > > > > the recent change to the warmer weather or what but last friday i had > an > > > > attack > > > > at work. My supervisor said i sounded like darth vader. It passed and i > > > > thought > > > > that was that.. but its never realy been under control since. I went to > > > work > > > > today and i had some of my usual asthma symptoms that just got worse > and > > > > worse.. By Half past 11, i was in an ambulance and on a nebulizor. when > > > that > > > > ran out i was switched to oxygen until my symptoms passed. it > frightened > > > me > > > > a > > > > little. My Team Leader was great, really looked out for me. Bit of a > > > > dramatic > > > > way to get out of work via ambulance though. I'm hoping that the > > nebulizor > > > > and > > > > oxygen will help it back under control again long term.. KTF Layla> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Quality questions create a quality life. Successful people ask better > > > > questions, and as a result, they get better answers. > > > > Tony Robbins > > > > > > > > God Bless America! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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