RE: Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I had posted this link about Nutritional Supplementation a couple of weeks ago - it's a great site, as it provides important info about the liver, etc - the whole site has valuable info too!

http://www.hepcchallenge.org/choices/supplements.htm

This link has more about each supplement:

http://www.holisticonline.com/cancer/cancer_nat-rem-home.htm

The B vitamins and folate are essential too for red blood cells while vitamin C and co-q10 is mentioned for maintaining while blood cell levels.

Others might have more to add to this.

Good luck!

Chris

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopeyGas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

[Guest guest]

folic acidb ( What my doctor put me on prior to treatment and during )

Vitamin of the B complex. It is found in liver, legumes and green leafy vegetables, and whole grain foods, and is also synthesized by the intestinal bacteria. It is essential for growth, and plays many other roles in the body. Lack of folic acid causes anaemia because it is necessary for the synthesis of nucleic acids and the formation of red blood cells.

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

Great link to all the supplements and info on studies done on these supplements. I'll print it up and can use it regularly. There is a lot that we can do to help ourselves with or without tx. and during tx. Lots of doctors just don't have the time or inclination to read all the info available . Unfortunately, until a really great tx is found, it is a lot of "do it yourself" and we can prevent a lot of liver damage by finding the info ourselves. I always find your info very helpful and up to date. Thanks so much for sharing your research with us.

I'll print a copy for my doctor---but no guarantee that he will look at it. The neurologist I had refused to even put a copy of Dr. Berkson in my medical file. Wonder if they minor in arrogance in medical school? Noticed in another post that you started whey protein and I had just started it too. I knew my protein intake was too low. I really like it. There is a brand sweetened with stevia on the internet. I haven't tried it yet.

Thanks again for keeping us up to date on supplements.

SuziQ

Quinn

In the swamp in secluded recesses, a shy and hidden bird is warbling a song. Walt Whitman

[Guest guest]

Folic Acid was being pushed up till a few

years ago for cardiac health…..I had been prescribed it by my

cardiologist, but they changed that a few years ago (like everything else, what

is good one day is not good the next.)

However, I just read an article in the

June issue of Nutrition Action, a publication by the Center for Science in the

Public Interest, about picking multivitamins.

The recommendation for folic acid is no

more than 400 mcg per day, but most of us also receive that much and more in

breakfast cereals, etc. There is speculation that folic acid can cause

tumors to grow:

“….researchers worry that

folic acid may be a double-edged sword: getting enough may keep tumors from

starting by repairing errors in DNA, but getting too much may feed tumors once

they start. If a tumor that’s already initiated is supplied with

folic acid on a daily basis, that may promote the tumor’s growth.”

They recommend that men or postmenopausal

women take a multi-vitamin every other day instead of every day; premenopausal

women should take a multi every day to lower the risk of neural tube birth

defects which can occur before women know they’re pregnant; everyone

should avoid cereals, energy bars and other foods fortified with a day’s

worth of folic acid if they do take a multi.

Just “food for thought”

Dorothy

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Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of elizabethnv1

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:30

AM

To:

Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

folic

acidb ( What my doctor put me on prior to treatment and

during )

Vitamin of the B complex. It is found

in liver, legumes and green leafy vegetables, and whole grain foods, and is

also synthesized by the intestinal bacteria. It is essential for growth, and

plays many other roles in the body. Lack of folic acid causes anaemia because

it is necessary for the synthesis of nucleic acids and the formation of red

blood cells.

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if

there are any herbs

to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?

Thanks

Zoopey

[Guest guest]

Folate is a b vitamin and is important for cellular production.

I have a genetic defect that helps regulate homocysteine and am on prescription folate and b-12. My last red blood cell tests were still off so my doc recommended that I also take b complex as well as quick dissolve b12/folate tabs.

Dorothy, this site has the article that you were referring to "Folic Acid Doesn't Help the Heart" - it also has lots more info about folate/folic acid.

In some individuals, too much folate could be a problem. Most folks are deficient:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/folicacid.html

Thanks!

Chris

f I remember correctly, it was being prescribed by cardiologists to help lower homocysteine which is believed to cause heart problems. I don’t recall why they reversed that theory though, but I’m sure you’ll come across it if you start reading about it.Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

[Guest guest]

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

The recommendations wouldn’t apply

to someone undergoing medical treatment I’m sure. There must have been a

specific reason you needed it. I wonder.

I do know that the earlier thinking re

benefits of folic acid was reversed. My cardiologist had been prescribing it

for me as a daily supplement, but when I saw him several years ago and asked

for a renewal, he said, “Oh, no….we don’t prescribe that

anymore. In fact, there has been evidence of it doing more harm than good.”

I felt like saying, well thanks……guess it’s a good thing I’m

still sitting here to ask about it!

What surprised me when I read the article

was that exceeding the 400 mcg per day could be a problem. Most cereals and

many other products are fortified with folic acid and I just figured that was a

good thing. I have started taking my multi every other day now – at least

till I read something else!

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of elizabethnv1

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:38

PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was

prescribed folic acid .

Herbs + RBC & WBC

Mainenance

I am

going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs

to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?

Thanks

Zoopey

[Guest guest]

I was taking 800mcg a day to help prevent hemolytic anemia when I was on treatment . Now I am going do some research about this , how scarey ! If it has hurt me in anyway I am gonna bring down the wrath of ME on the doctor lol

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

unfortunately most docs 'believe' all the proproganda that the drug companies feed to them,, along with all the free lunches and trips.. JackieSubject: Re: Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 3:36 AM

Great link to all the supplements and info on studies done on these supplements. I'll print it up and can use it regularly. There is a lot that we can do to help ourselves with or without tx. and during tx. Lots of doctors just don't have the time or inclination to read all the info available . Unfortunately, until a really great tx is found, it is a lot of "do it yourself" and we can prevent a lot of liver damage by finding the info ourselves. I always find your info very helpful and up to date. Thanks so much for sharing your research with us.

I'll print a copy for my doctor---but no guarantee that he will look at it. The neurologist I had refused to even put a copy of Dr. Berkson in my medical file. Wonder if they minor in arrogance in medical school? Noticed in another post that you started whey protein and I had just started it too. I knew my protein intake was too low. I really like it. There is a brand sweetened with stevia on the internet. I haven't tried it yet.

Thanks again for keeping us up to date on supplements.

SuziQ

Quinn

In the swamp in secluded recesses, a shy and hidden bird is warbling a song. Walt Whitman

[Guest guest]

No doubt that condition warranted the

additional folic acid.

If I remember correctly, it was being

prescribed by cardiologists to help lower homocysteine which is believed to

cause heart problems. I don’t recall why they reversed that theory

though, but I’m sure you’ll come across it if you start reading

about it.

And I hope your doctor has a good enough

explanation for you……!!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of elizabethnv1

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:43

PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I was taking 800mcg a day to help prevent hemolytic anemia

when I was on treatment . Now I am going do some research about this , how

scarey ! If it has hurt me in anyway I am gonna bring down the wrath of ME on

the doctor lol

Herbs + RBC & WBC

Mainenance

I am

going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs

to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?

Thanks

Zoopey

[Guest guest]

unfortunately, you have to be VERY careful with herbs and supplements while on treatment. Milk thistle is safe and can help your liver to tolerate tx better and is a natural anti-inflammatory. You need to talk with your doc about anything else. I know that real 'wheatgrass' can help with the red blood cells.. but please be careful with anything that has iron in it because iron is really bad for our livers, our hearts and lots of doc's just RX iron when we get anemic without checking the ferritin levels.. so make sure your doc checks your ferritin level before rx'ing any iron products.. they can totally ruin your chances of SVR on tx....JackieFrom: sunbeltcity

Subject: Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 7:44 PM

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs

to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?

Thanks

Zoopey

[Guest guest]

I see him next month but in the mean time I am going to do some research on .

Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

well one of the things you could do if it ever came up again, take the script home but DONT take it,, lol,, flush it,, and dont tell the doc,, lol,,Jackie From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

I had a huge argument with him that time, he said either take it or he was stopping treatment, next blood work proved him more than wrong. I am SOooo glad to be

away from that medical group..A wonder either myself or my husband survived..

well one of the things you could do if it ever came up again, take the script home but DONT take it,, lol,, flush it,, and dont tell the doc,, lol,,Jackie

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

I know hon,, Im glad you're away from them too,, but there would have been no way that he could have been able to tell if you'd NOT been taking them,, your ferritin level was so high anyway,, lol,,Jackie

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

Actually, it was 56 going into treatment. I have my labs right in front of me..

It was sure high AFTER he started the iron pills..455, then went higher

next test. it never did stabilize my blood counts and he refused to give me

Procrit, though my Insurance covered the cost..

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

well Im so thankful that YOU have a different doc this time,, HE was an ignorant idiot!Jackie

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

That, too, what you said, as well as an arrogant a**.

Karma is going to catch up..

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

oh yeah baby,,, Karma is foolproof!Jackie

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

As a matter of fact tomorrow I get my therapeutic phlebotomy for my iron overload . It helps with the fatigue to have my iron levels back down but until the hepatitis is resolved it will keep going up .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

I should get my levels tested again next month. I hope they are going down..

At what point should they start doing something about it?

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

glad to hear you have a better doc this time around .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

Thanks, not saying much, but time will tell..

Anything better than what I had..

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

SheenaTHIS time YOU KNOW MORE than you did before so you will NOT let any doc mistreat you like that last one.. you'll make it this time!Jackie

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey

[Guest guest]

How come I never get the "weight loss" side affect from anything???? Except of course being on tx... :-)

From: elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@ earthlink. net>Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC MainenanceTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:37 PM

Very interesting Dorothy , my last round of tx I was prescribed folic acid .

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Herbs + RBC & WBC Mainenance

I am going to start treatment and am wondering if there are any herbs to take to maintain healthy RBC & WBC?ThanksZoopey