Re: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosis

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Sheila, Please convey to the Goodwins that we are praying for and with them. Thanks.

Hanna Klaus, M.D.

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RE: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosis

My prayers will be with them, ine.

This also inspires me to ask for prayers for the man whom many of us would normally refer this couple to, and member of this list, Dr. Goodwin. Dr. Goodwin suffered a heart attack last week. Last report I had is that he is off respirator, now alert and breathing on his own. Many on this list know hin professionally, or have benefitted from his generous and expert guidance (Dr. Goodwin is a maternal fetal health specialist) for these most difficult of cases, and I know would want to keep him, his wife Joanne, and his family, in your prayers as he continues his recovery.

Sheila St.

Executive Director

California Association of Natural Family Planning

1217 Tyler St.

Salinas, Ca. 93906

1-877-33-CANFP

www.canfp.org

From: nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of & ine EconomonSent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:58 PMTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosis

Seeking the guidance of the health care providers on the list – I received an inquiry from a woman who has lost 2 babies – a son at 34 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome and another at 24 weeks to hydrops. In her family a niece also lost her baby, at 38 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome. She has worked with genetic specialists and no known chromosomal problems/diagnosis. According to her doctors, geneticists and all the research she has done, they haven’t seen anything like this. I am seeking the guidance from the wonderful experts on this list – would there be a specialist you would recommend for her to see? As you can imagine this has been a heartbreaking experience for the couple….I believe they would like some solid answers before proceeding with trying to achieve another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your helpGod bless youpauline economon

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I would suggest the following: The cause of most birth defects (about 75%), is not chromosomal, chromosomal deletion, inborn errors of metabolism, or other single gene disorders. It is unkown, environmental and or nutritional. Many of the toxins and nutrtional deficiencies interact with each other to make each other worse. The amniotic fluid in which most fetuses develop contains at least 100-200 toxins. Depending on what they could afford, they could surveyfor common nurtritional deficiencies and toxins and treat what is found. Some people have more toxins and nutrient deficiencies. Some have less. A patient I saw recently had a stillbirth. Biochemical analysis in this Hispanic couple revealed arsenic and deficiencies of B12 and folate. There were as well other problems I don't reecall off the top of my head. Hispanics may inherit a weakness for monocarbon metabolism (involving B12 and folate). Arsenic is primarily detoxified by methylation-another manifestation of monocarbon. metabolism. So one could imagine genes, nutrient deficiencies and toxins all working together. I gave her treatment to reduce arsenic and other toxins, and increase vitamins. We'll see if it works.

Paddy Jim Baggot

To: nfpprofessionals From: gpeconomon@...Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:58:19 -0500Subject: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosis

Seeking the guidance of the health care providers on the list – I received an inquiry from a woman who has lost 2 babies – a son at 34 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome and another at 24 weeks to hydrops. In her family a niece also lost her baby, at 38 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome. She has worked with genetic specialists and no known chromosomal problems/diagnosis. According to her doctors, geneticists and all the research she has done, they haven’t seen anything like this. I am seeking the guidance from the wonderful experts on this list – would there be a specialist you would recommend for her to see? As you can imagine this has been a heartbreaking experience for the couple….I believe they would like some solid answers before proceeding with trying to achieve another pregnancy. Thank you in advance for your helpGod bless youpauline economon See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. See Now

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A good resource for this family would be the Pro-Life Maternal Fetal Medicine Network. The physicians on this web site are willing to take phone calls in this type of situation.and help with expert medical advice. You can click on the map on the "Find Doc" to find a nearby prolife MFM specialist (perinatologist),http://www.prolifemfm.org/whatismfm.htm L Davenport, M.D.Subject: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosisTo: nfpprofessionals Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:58 PM

Seeking the guidance of the health care providers on the list – I received an inquiry from a woman who has lost 2 babies – a son at 34 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome and another at 24 weeks to hydrops. In her family a niece also lost her baby, at 38 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome. She has worked with genetic specialists and no known chromosomal problems/diagnosis. According to her doctors, geneticists and all the research she has done, they haven’t seen anything like this. I am seeking the guidance from the wonderful experts on this list – would there

be a specialist you would recommend for her to see? As you can imagine this has been a heartbreaking experience for the couple….I believe they would like some solid answers before proceeding with trying to achieve another pregnancy.

Thank you in advance for your help

God bless you

pauline economon

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From: & ine Economon <gpeconomonmsn (DOT) com>Subject: Help for couple with history

of adverse perinatal diagnosisTo: nfpprofessionals@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:58 PM

Seeking the guidance of the health care providers on the list – I received an inquiry from a woman who has lost 2 babies – a son at 34 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome and another at 24 weeks to hydrops. In her family a niece also lost her baby, at 38 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome. She has worked with genetic specialists and no known chromosomal problems/diagnosis. According to her doctors, geneticists and all the research she has done, they haven’t seen anything like this. I am seeking the guidance from the wonderful experts on this list – would there

be a specialist you would recommend for her to see? As you can imagine this has been a heartbreaking experience for the couple….I believe they would like some solid answers before proceeding with trying to achieve another pregnancy.

Thank you in advance for your help

God bless you

pauline economon

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What a great resource! Thank you Dr.

Davenport!

Sheila St.

Executive Director

California Association of Natural Family Planning

1217 Tyler St.

Salinas, Ca. 93906

1-877-33-CANFP

www.canfp.org

From: nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of Davenport

Sent: Wednesday, September 10,

2008 8:44 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: Re:

Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal diagnosis

A good resource for this family would be the

Pro-Life Maternal Fetal Medicine Network. The physicians on this web site are

willing to take phone calls in this type of situation.and help with expert

medical advice. You can click on the map on the " Find Doc " to

find a nearby prolife MFM specialist (perinatologist),

http://www.prolifemfm.org/whatismfm.htm

L Davenport, M.D.

From: &

ine Economon

Subject: Help for couple with history of adverse perinatal

diagnosis

To: nfpprofessionals

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:58 PM

Seeking the guidance

of the health care providers on the list – I received an inquiry from a woman

who has lost 2 babies – a son at 34 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome and another at

24 weeks to hydrops. In her family a niece also lost her baby, at

38 weeks to Potter’s Syndrome. She has worked with genetic specialists

and no known chromosomal problems/diagnosis. According to her doctors,

geneticists and all the research she has done, they haven’t seen anything

like this. I am seeking the guidance from the wonderful experts

on this list – would there be a specialist you would recommend for her to

see? As you can imagine this has been a heartbreaking experience

for the couple….I believe they would like some solid answers before

proceeding with trying to achieve another pregnancy.

Thank you in advance for your help

God bless you

pauline economon