Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I mixed some in peanut butter, helps a little. I was just thinking about valerian to help with Allie getting " stuck " in a thought. Anyone have any suggestions on that? Debi > It sounds like a few of you refer to using cod liver oil as a stim > stopper...Am I understanding that correctly? I use hempseed oil for the > omegas.....but we still have lots of stimming. What brand of cod liver oil do you use? > Angie (mom of caleb)....oh and how do you get them to eat it without spitting > it out like my did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 > It sounds like a few of you refer to using cod liver oil as a stim > stopper...Am I understanding that correctly? I use hempseed oil for the > omegas.....but we still have lots of stimming. What are the stims? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Stimming is self-stimulation. Things like rocking, flicking fingers, etc. I think what you're describing is more echolalia. I don't know a specific supplement but someone else may. > > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. > IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What > should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 > billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 The saying a sentence and repeating it silently or at a reduced volume was one of the criteria that my son met when evaluated for his new dx of psychotic-NOS (he fits all schizophrenia requirements and if it weren't for the fact he's only 5, he'd get that on his DX). The term used for the behavior you described is echolalia. HTH. -Sharon, NH Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. [ ] stimming IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 > > > > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a > > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. > > IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What > > should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 > > billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 A visual stim. Vision therapy may help, or Vit A therapy. Look in the files. Barb [ ] Re: stimming > >> > >> > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a >> > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. >> > IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What >> > should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 >> > billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? >> > >> > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 For us, visual stims are tied to yeast. Anne > >> > > >> > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a > >> > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. > >> > IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What > >> > should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 > >> > billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 > > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. These sound like echolalia, or what we call " scripting " at my house. B12, TMG, and anti-virals have been very helpful for my son for this issue. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 > >ok, great info. How about when a child takes an object, like a toy > car, and brings it close to his eyes and follows it with his eyes. you > know what I mean? what can help this, and what is this called? For my son, this was a visual stim, which was his 100% favorite stim and he did it all the time for more than 7 years. I wrote on this page what he needed to eliminate it http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 In a message dated 11/30/2005 4:09:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, jenin98@... writes: IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? My son is a verbal stimmer. He acts out movies, video games out loud all of the time. He either makes up his own stories or recites scripts from the movies or video games. I see it as him thinking out loud. He doesn't know how to keep it in his brain. Whatever is going on in his brain, he is verbally expressing it. Vicki 's Mommy HFA/Mercury Poisoned Almost 9! 12-29-96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 My almost 8 year old too! CAthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 >wow! That is exactly what my son does. > > In a message dated 11/30/2005 4:09:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jenin98@h... writes: > > IS stimming when a child mimics a character on tv? What about when a > child says a sentence, then repeats the sentence silently to himself. > IS that a sign of vit a deficiency, yeast, or all of the above? What > should I give him? I give him nystatin currently, gse, probio (3 > billion cfus), garlic, clo (one tsp)..what to add/delete? > > > > My son is a verbal stimmer. He acts out movies, video games out loud all of > the time. He either makes up his own stories or recites scripts from the > movies or video games. > I see it as him thinking out loud. He doesn't know how to keep it in his > brain. Whatever is going on in his brain, he is verbally expressing it. > > Vicki 's Mommy HFA/Mercury Poisoned Almost 9! 12-29-96 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 That description fits my almost 9 yr old to a t. Elaine B > My son is a verbal stimmer. He acts out movies, video games out loud all of > the time. He either makes up his own stories or recites scripts from the > movies or video games. > I see it as him thinking out loud. He doesn't know how to keep it in his > brain. Whatever is going on in his brain, he is verbally expressing it. > > Vicki 's Mommy HFA/Mercury Poisoned Almost 9! 12-29-96 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Some appear to focus on movies because they're predictable (same thing happens every time) unlike real life. S S <tt> That description fits my almost 9 yr old to a t.<BR> <BR> Elaine B<BR> <BR> > My son is a verbal stimmer. He acts out movies, video games out<BR> loud all of <BR> > the time. He either makes up his own stories or recites scripts <BR> from the <BR> > movies or video games.<BR> > I see it as him thinking out loud. He doesn't know how to keep it <BR> in his <BR> > brain. Whatever is going on in his brain, he is verbally expressing it.<BR> > <BR> > Vicki 's Mommy HFA/Mercury Poisoned Almost 9! 12-29-96<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 > > My ds who is 5, has AS and ODD, now he is scratching his head all of the time, > we are very new to this and I am not sure if anyone else has seen this. I asked > him why, he said the bugs were crawling on his head......now I don't know if this > is a " stim " (like biting his fingernails and pulling his nose) or what...any > input would be helpful... > > Kim > > For several years now, Jake has been " picking " at the skin on his legs. It started with a few mosquito bites; he's allergic. Problem is, he NEVER left them alone. They progressed to sores, scabs, scabs torn off, to scars. After it has scarred, he will start picking at it again till it's another sore. He constantly has blood on his leg. When anyone, even me, says anything to him about it he becomes quite angry. I have tried using neosporin and bandaids, he tears them off. I have tried keeping Lanacane on them to keep away the itching, nothing works. Since he started his new meds after a 10 day hospital stay, this behavior has diminished considerably, his legs are almost healed. To answer your question, these things seem more of a compulsive behavior than stemming. Hope this helps. Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Mine picks the sores on his arms. He can get a mosquito bite, and he will pick it until it scars. He doesn't pick the scars unless they stick up. He will stop if I ask, he doesn't realize he does it when he is doing it. His arms look like those kids on meth, unfortunately. He dad is the same, a picker of anything on his arms & hands. They don't ever have a sore that heals w/o a scar. I keep meaning to get some of that scar stuff for my son's arms to see if it will look better. He is 13, so I can't imagine what they will look like as he gets older. Picking drives me nuts too, I can't stand either to pick around me!! Kathy K toozie@... _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of disorderlybehavior Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: ( ) Re: " stimming " > > My ds who is 5, has AS and ODD, now he is scratching his head all of the time, > we are very new to this and I am not sure if anyone else has seen this. I asked > him why, he said the bugs were crawling on his head......now I don't know if this > is a " stim " (like biting his fingernails and pulling his nose) or what...any > input would be helpful... > > Kim > > For several years now, Jake has been " picking " at the skin on his legs. It started with a few mosquito bites; he's allergic. Problem is, he NEVER left them alone. They progressed to sores, scabs, scabs torn off, to scars. After it has scarred, he will start picking at it again till it's another sore. He constantly has blood on his leg. When anyone, even me, says anything to him about it he becomes quite angry. I have tried using neosporin and bandaids, he tears them off. I have tried keeping Lanacane on them to keep away the itching, nothing works. Since he started his new meds after a 10 day hospital stay, this behavior has diminished considerably, his legs are almost healed. To answer your question, these things seem more of a compulsive behavior than stemming. Hope this helps. Theresa _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 11863 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/go.asp?t=249> for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 On Aug 16, 2006, at 2:09 PM, kim hibbs wrote: > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking > anything, but scratching > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell > his Dr.?)... > any advice is helpful My 12 yo does this. He rubs his scalp. He likes to sprinkle salt in his hair and rub it, as a sensory thing, I guess. It's a " joke " every time we go to a restaurant that he reaches for the salt shaker and smiles at me. I always tell him no, also with a smile. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 > > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking anything, but scratching > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell his Dr.?)... > any advice is helpful > I do believe it is AS related. I think that it is either sensory related, or obsessive/compulsive. It could be either one, but definately AS related. Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Well, I guess I won't worry about it too much.....unless he hurts himself....I guess I'll always question the things he does until I get used to it.... kim Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 2:09 PM, kim hibbs wrote: > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking > anything, but scratching > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell > his Dr.?)... > any advice is helpful My 12 yo does this. He rubs his scalp. He likes to sprinkle salt in his hair and rub it, as a sensory thing, I guess. It's a " joke " every time we go to a restaurant that he reaches for the salt shaker and smiles at me. I always tell him no, also with a smile. Jackie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I can say, even at almost 37 I do things that drive my husband nuts. I will play with a 'small' something and turn it into a big sore. I haven't done it in a long time, because I try to make sure that I don't. Then I will pulling my hair out. (Not yanking, just running my hands through my hair, and gently pulling so I would have TONS of loose strands in my hands. I even ended up with an area where my hair was really thinning out. For me, I think it was stressw and a little compulsive. I now put my hair up if I start doing it. If I want to scratch my head, I now comb it. NOT scratching but combing, maybe a little hard but not bad. My hair looks much better, and I feel good, and no 'boo boo's' all over my head!! Hope that helps. > > My ds who is 5, has AS and ODD, now he is scratching his head all of the time, > we are very new to this and I am not sure if anyone else has seen this. I asked > him why, he said the bugs were crawling on his head......now I don't know if this > is a " stim " (like biting his fingernails and pulling his nose) or what...any > input would be helpful... > > Kim > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 One thought I had was about medications. My 6 1/2 yr old AS/ADHD is on Metadate & Clonidine. We recently added Welbutrin for her anxiety, but she started seeing flies buzzing around. Literally....seeing. The psychiatrist she just got into (finally!) said that all 3 drugs are ritalin based and that she was hallucinating. He said that she really does " see " them. Needless to say...we are changing her meds around. Just wondering if he is on any meds and whether these could be a cause. April > > > > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking anything, > but scratching > > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell > his Dr.?)... > > any advice is helpful > > > > > I do believe it is AS related. I think that it is either sensory > related, or obsessive/compulsive. It could be either one, but > definately AS related. > > Theresa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 - My son who is now 22 used to pick at his sores/bites, etc.He always had deep gashes on his hands that never healed. This really bothered me(he was not diagnoed until age 14)because his hands looked so bad and I didn't know about AS or stimming. I believe it is stimming. The good news is that he stopped doing this on his own when he entered high school. He now has white scars but they don't stand out as much as they are fading. The bad news is that he now pulls his eyebrows out. He has about 1/4 of a left eyebrow and 3/4 of a right eyebrow. I have tried to talk to him about it and he says he does it when he's reading or on the computer because it " feels good " . Our therapist said that for some reason the " pulling out " of the hair causes a certain sensation that they like. I have finally started leaving him alone about it even though I know it makes him look even more different. He says he doesn't care about what other people think so I leave him alone. Just a note to let you know that this phase might pass as it did with my son. At first he pulled his eyelashes also. That completely grossed me out. I definitely put a stop to THAT because it made him look like a space alien. I also scratch my head when I am upset or worried and it has become a bad habit that I am trying to break. I have a whole book on it called " Skin Deep " . It explains why people pick at their skin or scratch and ways to help-both physically and mentally. I got it on Amazon. It was good to read because it has a lot of case studies that let me know me and my son are not the only ones who do it. I think their is an online store that sells things to keep your hands occupied so that you will not scratch. You might try trimming his nails really really short. I have tried that and it works because you can't scratch-your fingers feel too wierd. But then I let them grow again because again, the scratching relieves my stress and my brain knows this and so finds numerous excuses for me not to trim my nails. Hope this helps. -- In , " disorderlybehavior " <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote: > > > > > > My ds who is 5, has AS and ODD, now he is scratching his head all > of the time, > > we are very new to this and I am not sure if anyone else has seen > this. I asked > > him why, he said the bugs were crawling on his head......now I > don't know if this > > is a " stim " (like biting his fingernails and pulling his nose) or > what...any > > input would be helpful... > > > > Kim > > > > > > > For several years now, Jake has been " picking " at the skin on his > legs. It started with a few mosquito bites; he's allergic. Problem > is, he NEVER left them alone. They progressed to sores, scabs, scabs > torn off, to scars. After it has scarred, he will start picking at it > again till it's another sore. He constantly has blood on his leg. > When anyone, even me, says anything to him about it he becomes quite > angry. I have tried using neosporin and bandaids, he tears them off. > I have tried keeping Lanacane on them to keep away the itching, > nothing works. > Since he started his new meds after a 10 day hospital stay, this > behavior has diminished considerably, his legs are almost healed. > To answer your question, these things seem more of a compulsive > behavior than stemming. Hope this helps. > > Theresa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Yeah thats what I thought, the Dr. hasn't put him on any meds yet...he wants to wait until he is at least 6.....(i think thats a good thing) of course we haven't started school yet, but he will be 6 in Jan. thanks kim April Broussard <aprilbroussard@...> wrote: One thought I had was about medications. My 6 1/2 yr old AS/ADHD is on Metadate & Clonidine. We recently added Welbutrin for her anxiety, but she started seeing flies buzzing around. Literally....seeing. The psychiatrist she just got into (finally!) said that all 3 drugs are ritalin based and that she was hallucinating. He said that she really does " see " them. Needless to say...we are changing her meds around. Just wondering if he is on any meds and whether these could be a cause. April > > > > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking anything, > but scratching > > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell > his Dr.?)... > > any advice is helpful > > > > > I do believe it is AS related. I think that it is either sensory > related, or obsessive/compulsive. It could be either one, but > definately AS related. > > Theresa > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I am wondering if he is on any medication? Shampoo? Just some thoughts disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote: > > Okay...is this part of the AS?? is really not picking anything, but scratching > his head as if " bugs " are crawling on it.......(do i need to tell his Dr.?)... > any advice is helpful > I do believe it is AS related. I think that it is either sensory related, or obsessive/compulsive. It could be either one, but definately AS related. Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 > > What is stimming? Is stimming like making weird noises and pretending > like if he is singing? What supplements, nutrients do you recommend > for stimming? Is it also true that B6 helps control tantrums? I > strongly appreciate your help on these questions. Those behaviors can be stims. There are many different things that can be a stim. I have eliminated all my son's stims, and he had a LOT, and it took different supplements for each one. So, if you list your child's stims, I might be able to let you know what worked for my son, if he had those stims. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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