Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hello? Intermittent punishment, and reinforcement, by extension? ... as applied to the law(s) (of justice) and upholding the law, thereof, would better be understood, (as it is by some, if not only by me?) perhaps, as something really " unjust, " of injustice itself, of our conditioned if not social injustices, thereof, of unfair treatment to Individuals of Individualism, thereof. The spirit of ABA? .. . Pioneers to the behavior sciences, as assimilated today and practiced by today's esteemed adherents, may have missed that, loop if not leap, to the cognitive, mistakenly analyzed or inadvertently projected of incomplete data, perhaps, to a better connection of The facts, (of The truth, thereof?) that may have contributed to negatively projecting behavior modification (behaviorism?) as inherently unfair, (unethical, of conscience) by omission, whatever, of its relationship, (of support) to and for intermittent punishment and reinforcement. We're not accelerating as we should, where training animals (rather successfully, I might add) has been around for milennia, is my sense of it. To intermittently apply punishment, and by extension, reinforcement, correspondingly, is the fundamental problem associated with " unfairness, " of injustice, itself, and the dynamic if not destruction (destruction of mind, perhaps) that evolves " from " that. Such conditioning as evolved to this point, upon further if not deeper analysis, (feelings analysis) was primarily based on " fear, " (of authority?) intermittent punishment (and reinforcement, corollary to it) and who we used to be, thereof, (of politics? of war...) of a/the " fear-based " dynamic of the jungle (survival of the fittest/trashing of the weakest? What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, if not fit in?) as opposed to reason, of " faith, " (?) of a reason-based dynamic as towards the Individual, of the ecological, civilization, and Justice of Understanding More, thereof, I Feel as understand of that. Our past was of injustice where not so much for the Individual of Individualism, of what justice upholds. As definitive as that? As definitive as that, perhaps.. . Intermittent punishment (and reinforcement, somewhat) cannot be reasonably justified towards the laws of understanding more (of reason, of natural and logical consequences, of the cognitive, of action/reaction of cause-and-effect, of The " truth, " thereof) of the logical/bio-logical as it applies to Justice and More of All, thereof. No more " that " than " over-punishment " and selective applications of punishment and reward (of abuse, as by setting us as an example?) to specific individuals can be construed as reasonable to all that we can be. Intermittent punishment, along with biased applications of reward and punishment to specific individuals, of politics, and over-punishment, where not entailed by those first two misdeeds? ... (of abuses? abuses less of reason) should provide a sense of where we might further our research towards greater " justice, " of understanding more, towards education and all we aspire to achieve, thereof. The connection has been made (by me, " not " so much of " authority " between ABA and Justice, I more than hope by this, " exposure, " of " Justice by Communication " and Reason, thereof Our job is to me " more " reasonable, as relative to abuse, of the past " and " the present. Where we are not, we are part of the problem, relative to me, to me at the moment.. . We can do better. (Oh, " so " much better, with " justice " in mind, with what ABA is about and relative to.) Mike, I ABA ABA for Understanding . More For those who miss the future? Intermittent punishment is the essence of injustice and abuse, and not far behind that, intermittent reinforcement, as far as I'm concerned, as postulated above. The laws of justice must be applied fairly, as uniformly as possible, for the more intelligent mind(s) (of Individuals) among us to come on side (out) and support socialism, if not ABA, if not ourselves, thereof. " Justice " for the Individual is that meaningful for what we are trying to achieve with me. Without greater (and greater) " justice, " as for the Individual, we cannot practice ABA as we should, is my sense of it. But carry on with what you have, if you must. You'd be better than most in that respect, I'm pretty sure, but I won't teach my kids to fit into an abusive world any more than I have to, and don't be too sure about that, either? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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