toileting

[Guest guest]

Hi Debra and Tonya,

Thanks for the great advice regarding suppositorys Debra. I got some yesturday

from the Doctors and not long after we gave one to , he did his first

decent bowel motion in the toilet! So that was exciting! Now we just need to

keep this up and make sure we give him lots and lots of reinforcement.

Yesturday we rewarded him with an ice-cream-in-a-cone and a drive in the truck

which he really loves!

So Debra and Tonya thanks again for your help and I will let you know how we get

on.

Kindest Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hello and All,

Intuitively speaking, perhaps, it seems is averse to having a

bowel movement in the toilet..

Try having him go poo in a plastic toilet without all that water and

stuff that takes it away, maybe so he can get a better sense of

what's going on? He may want a better sense of what he's missing,

or/of he maybe had a bad experience with the toilet? Why don't you

ask him or talk about it with him? .. . Be a part of him being a

hero of a story that deals with his interests and heroic conquest,

thereof? Hey!

I wouldn't be continuing to do what doesn't work. Period. Success

begets success of trying something, different? (but with logical

prospects) of ABA!?. Not a question for me.. .

You might even allow the option of pooing almost in a

standing situation in that respect of gradually working towards the

toilet? of his apprehension or anxiety? (I wouldn't try " that "

first. Also, with respect to giving a laxative or

suppository to facilitate the biological issue, we (you) may also

want to deal with the " anxiety " issue (possible anxiety issue?) with

a sedative of some sort, of something else you could try? Our son

had and still has such issues that affects " everything " we're trying

to overcome.. .

That's what we do if not all we do with ABA? .. .

Best wishes, thereof, of an independent analysis..

Mike,

I ABA

ABA for Understanding More

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> For a couple of months now we have been trying to toilet train my

10 year old son who only knows how to do a bowel in his pull-

ups standing up - he doesn't know how to sit on the toilet and do a

bowel motion. Although we had a couple of little successes early on

we now don't seem to be making much progress. Here is what we are

doing:

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> In the morning we give him 2 teaspoons of lactulose syrup with his

breakfast. He goes to school and his teachers take him to the toilet

every hour to do a wee. If they suspect that he wants to do bowel

motion they take him to sit on the toilet. Before they take him to

the toilet they show him a sentence strip that says " I need to go to

the toilet " with a picture of him sitting on the toilet - we do this

at home now as well.

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> When he gets home from school at 3 pm I give him a suppository. He

is usually quite unsettled and getting pretty desperate to do a bowel

motion so we take him to the toilet. But after some time we take him

off the toilet because he hasn't done anything and he doesn't look

like he is going to so we take him off, but a few minutes after we

have let him off the toilet he looks like he wants to go again so we

put him back on. He is so stubborn and will sit on the toilet with

his legs crossed tightly. I have seen him trying to walk with his

legs crossed! We have a caregiver with him from 3.00- 5.30 pm and

then when they go home my husband and I do our best taking turns

watching and not give him any opportunities to stand up and

do a poo but have sometimes not being quick enough and has

managed to do a small poo in his pants. Sometimes we stay up quite

late at night while sits on the toilet because we know that

he wants to go but in the end we have to put him to bed and a couple

of times he has messed his pull-ups (only a little bit) while in

bed.

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> We use lots and lots of postive reinforcement when does sit

on the toilet, or does a wee in the toilet. We also give him a cold

shower when he poos in his pants. I don't enjoy giving him a cold

shower but we feel that as well as positive reinforcement we need to

use a punishment of some sort. We have been doing this for a while

but it doesn't seem to be working. appears to understand

what's going on and will even say " if you poo your pants you get a

cold shower. " He also says " If you poo in the toilet you get an

icecream " , but he is obviously just repeating what we have been

saying to him and not really understanding.

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> I realize that this is going to be a very hard habit to break as

has been standing up doing poos in his pants for 10 years

now. I think that we will need to employ another caregiver to sit

with between 5.30 and 8.00pm or something as I am finding it

really hard to do this every night.

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> Do we just keep on the toilet without letting him up at all

and do we keep him sitting on the toilet all night until the

morning?

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> I would appreciate any help.

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> Kind Regards,

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