Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I use Restoril it is safe and it works real well . Getting good sleep is important on treatment , talk with your doctor . problem sleeping hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I use Gabapentin (aka neurontin). It’s safe too, and works well for my RLS. used to do pediatric neurology, and she says they’ve had kids on higher doses than I take. Of course, as always, talk with your doctor first. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of elizabethnv1 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:32 PM To: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: problem sleeping I use Restoril it is safe and it works real well . Getting good sleep is important on treatment , talk with your doctor . problem sleeping hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 8:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yes there are herbs for sleeping but the commercial ones are not potent enough. You would have to grow and harvest them for a tea. I was taking mint/spearmint tea but that stopped working long before Tx. Herbs are not like traditional medications and any long term use will not happen. In alternative medicine you have to heal the problem and use herbs only to help you get there. Don't tell anyone "grin" but I even tried some pot to stimulate my appetite and help me sleep. Didn't work for sleep but I ate like a pig LMAO. I guess I can not say I never tried drugs eh Quite a few people had recommended it and had used it on Tx with no problems. I am sticking to traditional meds until I get off treatment. There is another over the counter sleep aid that they sell as allergy medicine. Its called diphenhydramine/Benadryl but its only 25mg which at first worked but by the second week I was getting very little sleep. My Doctors had OK that. Well 3 weeks into treatment I felt like I had tooth picks keeping my eyes open. Mind and body were gone after 4 days of no sleep. My Mayo Doctor wrote out a script for Ambien 10mg before I even had the request out of my mouth. I was in a wheel chair and unable to walk from no sleep, Sadly the Ambien only worked for 5 days and then it petered out. and a few others recommended the Restoril/Temazepam and hot dang that has been working and as wrote she and Jackie have been on it long term, which this medication is indicated for long term use. So I say go with Temazepam. I like to start dosages low so she gave me a script for 15mg capsules but that only got me half way thru the night. I now take 30mg which has (knock wood) been working for the past 2 weeks. Plus I can get a 3 month supply for $10.00 because its available in generic where the Ambien cost $25.00 for three months and it would have been a battle to keep using it with the pharmacy because it is not recommended for long term use. Forget the herbs for now but after Tx I will be prepared with a fresh extended garden to pick from Subject: problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 They gave me Ambien while on tx and it did not work at all. My Internist gave me Trazodone and it works like a charm. I never had sleep problems until I was on tx and then when I stopped it never went away so the Trazodone has be great! I awaken alert!!! From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Ambien only works for about 14 days and after that the body just doesnt react the same to it . I have never heard of Trazodone and am going to check into it . Just recently after 3yrs my Restoril isn't working and it's time for something new lol [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 All the drugs mentioned are not good for your liver according to wikapedia on google. I have problems sleeping as well and am still searching for something that works but is safe for us to take. Read about side effects before taking something that someone on this sight recommends. There are some people that are pretty messed up from taking perscription drugs (interferon etc) including myself! Best Regards, Steve From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Trazodone is an anti-depresent, exact mechanism is unknown. Not considered an SSRI but that's what it does. Cautions include liver impairment, however.Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:46 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: problem sleepingAmbien only works for about 14 days and after that the body just doesnt react the same to it . I have never heard of Trazodone and am going to check into it . Just recently after 3yrs my Restoril isn't working and it's time for something new lol [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PMhey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learningnot to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. ihave a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleepand wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Gabapentin is safe for the liver.Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:35 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: problem sleepingAll the drugs mentioned are not good for your liver according to wikapedia on google. I have problems sleeping as well and am still searching for something that works but is safe for us to take. Read about side effects before taking something that someone on this sight recommends. There are some people that are pretty messed up from taking perscription drugs (interferon etc) including myself! Best Regards,SteveFrom: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PMhey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learningnot to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. ihave a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleepand wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Very true , but when a patient can't sleep for more than 3 hrs a night it starts to take a physical effect on the body and the doctor has to judge between what is best at the time . For instance I have seizures and dilantin is extremely hard on the liver but if my seizures aren't treated then I face possible death from status epilepticus . There is a thin line and some of us have to teeter on it . [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Shoot antidepressants depress me , lol and that is the truth . I have the most horrendous nightmares on antidepressants also . [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learningnot to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. ihave a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleepand wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Steve, anyone can go in and change info on wikipedia,, so take what is said there in the light of what is said and research elsewhere too.. Yes, EVERY drug can and does go through your liver, but not sleeping, adds to the depression as well as the stress your poor liver is already under. Truely, its very important to take as little drugs as you need but when you need them you need them,, I was stage 3-4 with early cirrhosis, and never took much of anything, so when I was on tx, I had to take meds or else I would never have been able to finish tx and it was so important that I would finish tx,, I took celexa, protonix, restoril, a pain med, a muscle relaxer in addition to the treatment meds,, and there were days I took a lot of stuff, but it was needed or else I would have to stop tx and that would have allowed this virus to go back to munching my liver.. Remember, tx is not forever and the MOST IMPORTANT thing is to get through tx.. so you have to weigh the pro's and cons... really you do.. and when you're done with tx , you can go off of as many of the drugs you have to take to finish tx.. you gotta know whats the most important thing and thats to finish tx,, just my 2 cents..Jackie From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Trazedone has some antidepressant effects Liz and if you have trouble with AD's, you might have them with this too,, my former step daughter had to take it at night for her mental illness,, plus it helped her sleepJackie From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Jackie, I understand what your saying and agree with you, while wer'e taking that poison what's a little sleeping pill going to hurt, what ever helps us get through that hell. But after your done with therapy one should read the fine print that comes with the perscriptions, the Doctors do not always do there homework, they are human beings not GODS. That's what's so good about this and other websites, we learn from each other and sometimes teach the Doctors (or at least try) Steve From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 oh thats for sure Steve,, we STILL see doc's Rxing stuff like cymbalta,, grrrrrrJackie From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 angel, just be very careful of anything that has 'valarian' or 'valarian root' in it as that is very hard on our livers. Benedryl or diphenhydramine is the active ingredient in tylenol PM and you can buy it plainly without the tylenol in any drug store. It never worked for me and it also has some dehydrating side effects where might not be so good for us while on tx.. My doc gave me Restoril for the entire time I was on tx and it did not affect my treatment. It worked great not only for the insomnia but for the restless leg syndrome I had. There is also melatonin that I now take when I need it but I would suggest you speak with your doc before you take anything.. just to be sure... Ambien and Lunesta never worked at helping me sleep but did give me horribly weird dreams,, not nightmares, just really weird disjointed dreams, lolJackie Subject: problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 9:43 AM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 No worries Jackie I will not be taking any herbs unless a Doctor who specializes in alternative medicine is prescribing it. To me there is no difference between herbs and drugs in the pharmacy. I would not take a herb or walk into a pharmacy and say oh I want that drug I saw on TV last night WITHOUT a very good Doctor to direct me. Homeopathic single remedies that are OTC well that's a different story. I can and have experimented with them. My Doctor told me its OK to muck about with Homeopathic Remedies but to never ever mess with herbs unless your working with a MD who specializes in them. They work in a completely different way than herbs. I even have a holistic vet for my pets and living here in the mosquito factory of the world I want him to be protected so he is on a homeopathic heart worm preventative. Birds and Dogs have gone to a traditional vet but have not been poisoned by drugs. I get them checked by a local vet but I only agreed to go there if I did not have to listen to their nonsense about food or all the toxic preventative medications and vaccines. I was shocked when they agreed My Heart Bird Goldie has had a host of medical problems and never took a traditional drug and at 18 years old all are amazed she is still alive. Most die at 15 yrs old or younger with her health issues. From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 9:43 AM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Im glad you are on top of this valerie.. remember that many docs, ND's included are not up on all the hep c stuff either.. its hard to find someone who knows how herbs, supplements really relate to those with hcv.. Jackie From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 9:43 AM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yeah anti depressants totally depress me . My doctor made me try some for a month because he thought my increasing pain was from depression lol [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Steve, I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I just wanted to warn everyone to be careful believing that everything posted in wikipedia is "gospel truth". Up until very recently, any Joe Bloggs could add something to wikipedia and the information wasn't verified as absolutely accurate. Luv anne You don't have to be handicapped to be different.Everybody's different!Kim Peek [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 You’re right; there is no difference. People forget that about food, too. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Washburn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:06 PM To: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: problem sleeping To me there is no difference between herbs and drugs in the pharmacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I too had a terrible time with antidepressants. The first 2 I tried made me sick as a dog. A dear email friend with HepC in SVR said try Lexapro. I did and as always she was right on with her advice. I was pretty mesed up when I was first diagnosed. Lexapro helped me then as well as now on Tx. As soon as Tx i over its one of the first things i will eliminate. From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 That's the one thing i didnt have problems with on treatment ,lol or now for that matter . My doc made me try them but of course if your not depressed they cause problems and I was not depressed . [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Liz, it is a generic for something. They told me that it was mild anti depressant that did a poor job but was a great non habit forming sleep aid. I can take up to 3 a night but 1 or 2 work just fine, and with no hang over. Steph From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thanks From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:43 PM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learningnot to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. ihave a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleepand wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I agree Jackie.... most are not up with the Hep C stuff but claim they are. One needs to be very careful... From: angel_aura <angel_aura1226@ ymail.com>Subject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] problem sleepingTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 9:43 AM hey everybody. 14 weeks in and things arent too terrible. i'm learning not to push myself so much to get everything done that i used to do. i have a question...is there an herbal remedy that will help me sleep and wont interact badly with pegasys and copegus?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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