toilet training

[Guest guest]

Hi Debra, was hard to potty train. We didn't manage until he

turned 41/2 and it sounds crazy, because we had tried everything. My

neighbor took me aside and said to let him pee outside, that he would

never want to wear a diaper again. It took me months of trying

everything else until I finally broke down and did what she said. To

my amazement it worked completely. was in the pool playing and

said he needed to go bathroom. Well I didn't want him dripping all

thru the house, so I said come here bud. I took him out back, where

no one could see, and tried to show him, the best a women can, how to

pee like a man! :)LOL But when he was done swimming he wouldn't let

me put a diaper on him. I went immediately and bought him real

underwear. We have never even seen an accident since that day. If

nothing else will work all I can suggest is to try this, I wish I had

earlier..Good Luck, Crystal

Mom to Caitlin 8 Normal

6 Oral Dyspraxia and Autistic Spectrum Disorder

4 Normal

Kelsey 2 Normal

--- In @y..., " lollipop11230 " <ltathome80@a...>

wrote:

> I am toilet training my 3 and a half apraxic, (SID, hypotonic) son

> and I was wondering if anybody had some advice on what to do. He

just

> does not seem motivated to do it. I've gotten him to make on the

> potty a pee pee a few times bu, waits till the diaper is on to make

a

> B.M and has had numerous accidents. I am willing to listen to ANY

> strategies that may have worked for you. Thanks in advance!

> Debra

[Guest guest]

I wish I could be more helpful but this has not been fun for me. At 3

1/2 my son had no interest. It wasn't until about 3.10 that it was

even attempted and it was an accident. He was getting ready for a

bath and when he started to go ran to the potty.

The problem with teaching him to pee standing up was that I am still

dealing with the poppy issue. He won't sit until the last possible

minute, but unless I know it will be unavoidable like at therapy I

absolutely refuse to put a pull-up on him. Even then he fights it

because he knows that is not what should be happening.

Be patient and use whatever incentive that will work. Motivating with

stickers for a kid who could care less, does not work. M & Ms do

wonders as do their favorite " I want " toy on a shelf in the bathroom.

Good luck and hang in there!. denise

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From: " M. " <khalidsvision@...>

Date: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:31 pm

Subject: Re-thinking Potty Practices

Mustafa

Re-thinking Potty Practices-

Part 1: Popular potty training advice includes a number of

long-held assertions that simply don't parallel normal

human development.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701a.htm

Part 2: Muscles, including those needed for voiding

functions, need to be used and exercised for proper

development.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701b.htm

Part 3: Urology researchers suggest that the late-onset of

toilet training may permanently affect bladder and bowel

control.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701c.htm

Part 4: Communication of elimination functions is not

limited to verbal skills, nor is social cooperation a

prominent attribute among two-year olds.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701d.htm

Part 4: Communication of elimination functions is not

limited to verbal skills, nor is social cooperation a

prominent attribute among two-year olds.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701d.htm

Part 5: Anthropologists have clearly shown that a society's

specific infant training practices are adaptive to

sociocultural factors, which indicate a profound effect on

toilet training readiness.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701e.htm

Part 6: As we re-think our potty training practices, the

need to develop and market related products and

instructional material is evident.

http://babyparenting.about.com/library/weekly/aa062701f.htm

--- In @y..., " lollipop11230 " <ltathome80@a...>

wrote:

> I am toilet training my 3 and a half apraxic, (SID, hypotonic) son

> and I was wondering if anybody had some advice on what to do. He

just

> does not seem motivated to do it. I've gotten him to make on the

> potty a pee pee a few times bu, waits till the diaper is on to make

a

> B.M and has had numerous accidents. I am willing to listen to ANY

> strategies that may have worked for you. Thanks in advance!

> Debra

[Guest guest]

When my daughter was going through this (also SID, hypotonic, dyspraxic), I

would only let her watch her videos if she'd sit on the potty. I'd put the

potty right in the middle of the living room on top of a plastic floor covering.

This worked really well. I don't think she could really " feel " the urge but

because she would seemed surprised when it would come out. (a good surprise)

After awhile I think she learned what the urge felt like and once that happened

she practically trained overnight. Of course I rewarded her when she went and I

really think she wanted to do it but couldn't sense how for awhile. I'd say it

took a month or longer before she learned what it felt like to go.

Good luck,

Tammy

[ ] Toilet training

I am toilet training my 3 and a half apraxic, (SID, hypotonic) son

and I was wondering if anybody had some advice on what to do. He just

does not seem motivated to do it. I've gotten him to make on the

potty a pee pee a few times bu, waits till the diaper is on to make a

B.M and has had numerous accidents. I am willing to listen to ANY

strategies that may have worked for you. Thanks in advance!

Debra

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol: We have found that our son's sensations and pain tolerance related to

milk. Once we removed all dairy, anything with casein, caseinate ( milk

protein), his sensations are much stronger.

Just a thought,

did not have the muscle sensation and bladder sensation that other kids do

(he also does not feel pain as quickly as other children, nor the food around

his mouth or on his hands) but since he had on occasion actually used the toilet

and was a big boy and was past the age for " normal " toilet training, etc.

[Guest guest]

Debra -

Josh was about 3 1/2 when he started potty training also. He,

like your son, is apraxic, dyspraxic, hypotonic, and has SID. I

think seeing the other boys at daycare go potty was a little

motivation but the trick was finding a way for him to tell us he had

to go. We got to the point that he could make a few sounds that

would indicate his need to go potty but he thought of his own - at

school, he would go into the bathroom and start flushing the potty.

The teachers would go in to see who was playing with the toilet and

there would be Josh, waiting for help to get his pants down (or pull-

up at the start) and go potty. At home, we would give really cool

stickers every time he pooped in the potty (since peeing was the

easier one to get him to do). He's done very well but we still keep

in him in a pull-up at night. Since last February, when we switched

him over to big-boy underpants (remember to get really cool ones or

ones that look like Daddy's - your son might find that an incentive

to keep them dry and clean), he's had maybe four accidents and mostly

due to teachers (or us!) not paying attention to his signs. Because

of his needs, he necessarily had to sit down to pee but just recently

has started standing - mainly because Daddy finally got over the

inhibitions and showed him how (LOL!) but also because the other boys

at school stand more now that they, also, are older. The other thing

to remember is that, what a lot of people say, boys are generally

more difficult to potty train and when they're ready, then it will

work much easier. Good luck!!

Sherry, , (typical 15-year-old), and (4 and

trying very, very hard)

[Guest guest]

Debra,

You are not doing anything wrong. It used to be that you needed to

get your child potty trained at 2. Well, they have changed that. In

fact if you talked to parents who say the children were potty trained

at an early age, most not all, had accidents on a pretty regular

basis.

My oldest who has no disabilities was not potty trained (pee) until

his fourth birthday and it was another 6 months before he went BMs in

the toilet. But I have to say when he was trained, that was it he

only had two accidents and that was with the BMs; yuk.

IMP I would say just be careful it does not become a battle of wills,

because the child will always win.

P.S. I wan't to cry when I was training my oldest, .

was a piece of cake, totally trained at 2 1/2yrs. Only time will

tell if , now 4 1/2 months will be so easy.

Heidi - 6, 4 (apraxia, DSI), 4 1/2 months

--- In @y..., " lollipop11230 " <ltathome80@a...>

wrote:

You see my son will pretty much sit on the potty if I

> ask him but, almost never makes a pee pee or B.M during the ten

> minutes the books say to leave him on. i don't know if he's holding

> it in or if he just doesn't have to go yet. So, what I began to do

is

> leave himm on for a really long time until he pees.(Never made B.M

> yet) then i let him come off and play. Is that wrong? Am I making

him

> sit too long. Also once he comes off he will not tell me he has to

go

> he will just pee on the floor or in the pants.

[Guest guest]

Debra,

My daughter used to sit on the potty for several hours a day. That is why I had

the chair in the middle of the living room floor and had her watch videos. It

took her quite awhile to realize what peeing felt like (and pooping for that

matter). I figured it was like sitting in a chair to watch TV only a tad

different. I didn't make a big deal of it...nature just took its course and

that's when SHE began to feel the urge and tell me when she was going etc. She

never complained about sitting on the potty for such a long time. It wasn't

like I tied her there or anything either. She loved her videos back then.

Nowadays though she'd never sit still long enough to watch much TV, which is

fine by me.

Your son may not yet know what the feeling of peeing or needing to pee feels

like. I think that's part of the sensory issues our kids face. It will

probably take awhile for him to learn. At school of course he won't be sitting

on the potty for very long...but you can still try when he's home if he's

willing. Personally though I wouldn't make any sort of struggle out of it. If

he's not able, he isn't going to be able to do it regardless of anything you

try. And yes I know it's quite frustrating. I'm currently potty training my

third child. I can also tell you each kid is different in how they do it AND I

can tell you that when they are ready it goes really quick with no struggle.

Good luck,

Tammy

[ ] Toilet Training

Thank you all for all your advice. I just have to ask something no

one discussed. Yo see my son will pretty much sit on the potty if I

ask him but, almost never makes a pee pee or B.M during the ten

minutes the books say to leave him on. i don't know if he's holding

it in or if he just doesn't have to go yet. So, what I began to do is

leave himm on for a really long time until he pees.(Never made B.M

yet) then i let him come off and play. Is that wrong? Am I making him

sit too long. Also once he comes off he will not tell me he has to go

he will just pee on the floor or in the pants. I am able to motivate

him to sit but, not to not pee on the floor. In a week he is

strarting school and I'm afraid that if he's still continuing this

way bhe is just going to go back to making in the diaper. They'e not

going to let him sit for an hour till he goes. I feel like I MUST BE

DOING SOMETHING WRONG. Also usually towards evening he is going crazy

already that I stop for the day till morning. Sorry so long just he's

my first. he seems to understand most things but, besides the

dyspraxia, hypotonia and sid he seems to have processing

difficuklties. All your advice is really apreciated.

Thanks, Debra

[Guest guest]

Since this thread began, my son (3) has started school. has apraxia

and has been toilet trained since early July. However, he will not use his sign

for potty with others. This has been a problem in school. He will not ask for

help (using the sign or trying to say it..which he can) and therefore, wets

himself. I know how frustrating it is for him and I feel so sad for him that he

can't ask. The teachers are very patient and are working with him and are also

fully aware of his situation-they are very willing to use sign language to help

him, so hopefully he'll begin to feel more comfortable with them. He is in a

Montessori school, which is the perfect environment for him. His therapist is

also working with him on this as well.

Has anyone else dealt with this? Does it just take practice and time with other

people? Thanks for any help. Charlotte

[Guest guest]

-Debra,

I know exactly how you feel. My son Jack 3.3 now was potty trained,

going on his own and even staying dry at night, going in public

places for about 3 months, then Boom! no more 9 out of 10 x he went

either in his pants or on my brand new chair or couch or on the

floor, even right before I asked him if he had to go and he said no.

So, after deciding not to have a power struggle with him, I just

backed off, never mentioned the potty thing, and he has been doing

much better, even went on the potty at school for the first time. He

has had a couple of accidents but not like before.

I think children really do go when they are ready. It has also helped

us that my 21 month old is now going on the potty, and of course

getting all the attention for it, and JAck will say " I have to go

too " I am just letting JAck go at his own pace and not pushing. It

seems to be working.

Hope this helps,

Eileen

[Guest guest]

My son finally stopped wearing pull ups at age 4.10!! I believe that

it was a control issue as well as a fear of change. I told him that if

he wore his " big boy undies " to Target or Toys R US he could buy his own

" discman " like his brother's. (He loves listening to music). The day

finally came where he wore his big boy undies to the store-and we

haven't gone back to pull ups since! It's been 2 months!!! We also

rewarded him when he wore them to school and when we went to his

grandparents' house. He was so proud! It cot me a small fortune, but

it's SO worth it!!

I have to agree with the others, when the child is ready, they'll do it.

It may also be a confidence issue. Has your child tried wearing undies

in the house without pants? Sometimes they're " afraid " of the new

fabric of underwear. Have him feel them, how soft they are-pull ups are

made of paper. I even had my son color the pull-ups so he saw that it

was paper.

Good luck!

Ilene, NJ mom to , age 5

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

My name is Jeanne and I am also a new member.

I think we should meet also sometime.

I live in northern NH in Berlin.

My son doesn't seem to have the muscle control either.

i am lucky I guess my son is small in size he still fits on the rest room

changing tables just barely though. It does make me feel odd in public because

people who know my son and I that have children my sons age make me feel

ackward because he is no where near trained yet. however it doesn't embaress me

though. My son is also developmentally delayed. He is at about 2-2 1/2. His

language skills are at about 1 to 2 yrs old. Thank you for the advice.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Ilene,

Thank you for your info. I have tried offering my son a radio to take with

him into the potty. He loves radios he carries one every where he goes. It

doesn't matter whether or not they work to him. He also loves music. my son

doesn't

have any siblings he can look up to however he loves to copy the people

around him.I will let him color the pullup so that he realizes the difference

between paper undies and real ones although to my son I don't think he will care

one way or the other at this point for he isn't quit fully ready to train yet.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

>Since then he has acknowledged request to go to the toilet a couple

of times, but mostly says no when in actual fact he needs to go. He

has said no as he is having an accident! He labels " wee wee "

correctly everytime. He knows when he needs to go and starts fiddling

- I then hold the potty and he says no!

LOL I remember this stage. What worked (slowly) here was never asking

whether he needed to go, because the answer was always No. Instead, if

I could see the signs, I'd run to the bathroom and throw a tiny piece

of paper in the toilet, and say, " Bet you can't pee on that! " And he'd

scamper in there to try. Also had him aiming for cheerios, whatever

was at hand.

I did have to do this for many months, but it was the only thing that

worked once the weather got cold and he couldn't run around outside

without pants anymore.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Don't know if you are asking about a good potty training protocol or

if you are referring to the events you have just described associated

with doing #2 `s

If you like I will look for a potty training protocol guideline doc.

Can't seem to find …But for now I will post a similar response that I

had in the past.

Maybe something there will help.

Sometimes a bump in the road (potty issues) associated with the first

initiation of chelation.

Never the less I still would like to note that if the child knows and

feels uncomfortable when soiled then that bares the marks of a

successful transition on the way. It is a matter of the maturity

level and consciousness of the child. Every child is different when

this time is right.

Added

(From what you have described he seems that the time is right and

sitting is OK and preferred for both #1 and #2 until the task is

mastered.)

Between school and home

The only thing that I would say if the environment is effecting them

then make sure you accommodate the child to be familiar in each of

them. Also the familiarity with the methodology is also important in

how the child is to be taken to the bathroom and what is expected of

them each time. The most important in all of this is to be consistent

until the task is mastered. That is where we get regressions we don't

know came from.

Example

Consistency is the most important element here another words make a

pointed time to go to the potty, lets say 5 min on the hour at

school. Do the same at home as well. And have the teachers do the

same praise and expectancy in time. Neither force nor scolding on

potty accidents. Must NOT be negatively reinforced.

Potty is a good thing

Do this 5 min potty break, every hour every day. Don't make it

abrasive at all if they don't go " o " well they sit for 5min, read or

whatever that's ok they going through the motions eventually they

will master it and you can decrease the duration of potty times etc…

He will get it ….

HTH

Kenny V

>

> Hello everyone

>

> We have a 3yr old son who showed independent signs of being ready

for toilet training a month ago. Since then he has acknowledged

request to go to the toilet a couple of times, but mostly says no

when in actual fact he needs to go. He has said no as he is having

an accident! He labels " wee wee " correctly everytime. He knows when

he needs to go and starts fiddling - I then hold the potty and he

says no! He starting standing independently he first went to the

toilet. He has never sat on the portable nor the big toilet - doesnt

want to. Comes to me when he has wet himself and says wet and

removes his underwear. Mostly he just removes the wet clothes

himself and runs around after the fact! Doing the " no. 2 " - well a

bit of a nightmare. Sometimes he investigates with the hand and then

wipes it off on whatever is closest. Sometimes he has come to me

before I get to him to show me his hands.

>

> Well, I am truly out of ideas and thought I tried every approach I

could. Would appreciate anyone in a similar situation now or in the

past to help me lift this cloud?

>

> Appreciate it.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> We have a 3yr old son who showed independent signs of being ready

for toilet training a month ago. Since then he has acknowledged

request to go to the toilet a couple of times, but mostly says no when

in actual fact he needs to go.

My #3 did that. I just told him " go pee " , not a question, a command.

My #2 and #3 were not urine trained until age 6. My NT kids were not

trained until age 4. I personally would not sweat it if a 3yo was not

urine trained, but that is just my opinion.

>>He starting standing independently he first went to the toilet. He

has never sat on the portable nor the big toilet - doesnt want to.

All my boys learned to use the toilet for urine by standing.

> Well, I am truly out of ideas and thought I tried every approach I

could. Would appreciate anyone in a similar situation now or in the

past to help me lift this cloud?

Ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/parent2.htm#potty

Dana

[Guest guest]

IMHO, I think you need to do a reinforcer check and pick the item that he will

just die for and then, yes, sit there with him until he does it so you can give

him the reinforcer. Alternately, I have read that if you pair going to the

bathroom with something that he really loves, such as watching the the

train show, then he will become much more comfortable there. Lastly, I would

stop with the cold showers. If you do anything negative, you should take away

something that he dearly loves and give it to him after he has a BM in the

toilet.

I am only a parent and these are suggestions, not necessarily to be implemented

at the same time. Hope it helps,

R.

[Guest guest]

We had bedwetting accidents until removing all dairy at age 9. Over night success-- Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 7, 2010 8:27, Amber Barnett <bbeautiful1too@...> wrote:

We have also had issues with this with my 13 yo son... the dr said not to worry that they believe it is because occasionally they di become worn out and do not know they need to go... we are on four months no accidents, even with us moving, which is very difficult for him, so i am feeling the promise of a wet bed free life.

Amber Barnett

From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...> Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 11:17:55 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Toilet Training

Madeline turned 12 last month and only became 100% night potty trained about four months ago. We tried the night alarm that attaches to her underwear with NO help. She'd just take it off. I wish there was something I could tell you that could make it stop, but it was a wait and see thing for us. We also took her to the doc and he said everything was fine. A friend of mine who has an aspie son also had issues with night toilet training and I gave her the night alarm. She said it didn't work and just had to wait it out also.

Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

( ) Toilet Training

Hi, Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her 100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week or two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked her over and found nothing wrong.Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does anyone have any suggestions.Thanks,

[Guest guest]

It IS possible that your son doesn't really feel the urge to go due

to sensory issues. Or, it could be that he just isn't ready. I was

really trying to get my daughter to potty train but then I realized

I just had to back off and wait (with MY daughter at least.. the

harder you push her, the more she resists). I started putting her on

the toilet here and there even though she didn't need to go but not

to the point where she would get annoyed or negative...

EvI put her in underwear and told her to tell me when she had to pee

and she was able to do that. Eventually, I used rewards to get her

to TRY to pee in the potty but it was difficult for her. I didn't

push her on it but wow that was hard for me! Eventually she did pee

on the potty and got a big toy reward for that and it was

inconsistent but then got better. Then she just asked me for a

diaper for poop and used the potty just for pee.

It took her a long time to become comfortable using the potty for #2

and I started to panic as she approached her 5th birthday. I tried

refusing the diaper and she just held it and that was bad so I gave

her the diaper before she became constipated. The developmental ped

said that was a good call because if it hurts, then she would be

even more resistant and might hold it even with a diaper and then

you've got a real problem. She suggested a little bit of Miralax

every night to make sure it was really soft so when she DID try in

the potty it would come out easily. At first it kind of freaked her

out to have poop come out even a tiny bit but then she kept doing it

and realized it was ok. Once she saw it was OK, it was smooth

sailing. She needed some educating on proper wiping but never had an

accident because she was excellent at knowing when she had to go by

then. Occasionally we have a problem with pee because she would be

so resistant to stopping what she was doing to go to the bathroom

and wait until it was too late.

I know you were just asking about pee but just wanted to give you an

overview of how I had to handle potty training with my daughter.

Rewards, rewards, rewards! For every tiny thing! Potty books and fun

stuff while on the potty. Make it a nice place to be. I think it was

some sensory with my daughter and anxiety. But also, I think it was

also that she is less mature than her typical peers so I had to

think of her as younger...

Jen

Lymie parents, 5 yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/25/2010 7:18 PM, ssandia wrote:

Hello All!

Does anyone know why my 3.5 year old Aspie does not tell

us when he wants to pee or poo? We take him to the

bathroom on a schedule with some accidents but his pants

are dry most of the time between bathroom visits. Is it

that he does not feel? or is it that he does not know the

words to say it?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

You all are lucky because in California, medicaid doesn't cover briefs.  They expect you to write it off at the end of the year.  This can cost thousands of dollars to the user, and most CPA's don't understand how the tax rebate works. 

My two cents,NickOn Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Sandy SANDIA <ssandiacr@...> wrote:

 

: (and all friends here)!Seems like you were talking about my son with comments!!! How does she attend school with this potty issue? Cause teachers can take her to the toilet on a schedule, but what happens when there is an " accident " ? Schools wont accept him here cause of that

From: mohmit66@...Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:37:34 -0800

Subject: Re: ( ) Toilet training

 

I have the same problem with my 6yo dd aspie, it took us forever to get her somewhat potty trained. However, we are still having problems at night as well as during the day. When she peed herself she wouldn't tell me and just sat in it until I would notice. She has to wear night time pull-ups and I use a panty liner during the day which gives her that extra protection. We still have to tell her to go to the bathroom and just try. If I didn't and just let her rely on herself then she would have an accident. She'll just tell me that her pee's not here. I've heard from others that it may take YEARS before she is completely PT.

Also if you live in PA, have medical assistance and your child is over 3 years of age, medical assistance will pay for pull-ups and the panty liners as well. YEAH!  You just have to get a script from your doctor and

send it to a medical supply place. They will provide 300 a year. Any amount over that you will need a pre-authorization, then you can get an unlimited amount.- 

 

Hello All!

Does anyone know why my 3.5 year old Aspie does not tell

us when he wants to pee or poo? We take him to the

bathroom on a schedule with some accidents but his pants

are dry most of the time between bathroom visits. Is it

that he does not feel? or is it that he does not know the

words to say it?

Thanks!

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Maddie was potty trained only because she wanted to start preschool and that was close to five yrs old and she only became nighttime potty trained in the last few months since we moved. She turned 12 in October.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

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Re: ( ) Aspie thoughts on "Spoilers"

My dd can only enjoy Xmas if she knows what all her gifts will be up-front. Doesn't even like good surprises.

Darla

( ) Aspie thoughts on "Spoilers"

Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 4:06 PM

When I read a book or I'm waiting for a movie to come out I don't like to know the ending or really any of the details if I can avoid them. My daughter is the same. My son, however, prefers to know. This is especially true when something sad might happen.

I'm a big Harry Potter fan. My kids like Harry Potter, too. When we went to see Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix I was already aware that it might be best to warn what would be happening because there is something very sad and painful in it. cried and cried at that part even though I had told him about it. Afterward, he said, "I don't get why people don't like spoilers." So I've warned him in advance for everything. I kind of wish he'd read the books but he likes the movies better.

I took Rayleigh to see the 7th movies yesterday (part 1 of book 7) but didn't really want to go. I've warned him about what happens. Rayleigh knew a little but not all of it. She was sad but not devastated. I'm not sure how will be but he seems to want to wait for the DVD. Movie theaters are not his favorite place. I think when sees it he will be saddest by the very first sad thing that happens but I'm not sure how he'll be affected by the rest.

Anyway, I think it's pretty interesting and I've heard from other parents of kids on the spectrum that they like spoilers too. My husband will sometimes watch the end of a film first. sometimes reads the last chapter first. is my aspie but my husband has a lot of traits too.

What are your experiences with this?

Miriam

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If he has an IEP and you are in the USA/public school, they will take him without his being potty trained. They can put potty training into the IEP as a goal and work on it. As for accidents, you would send a change of clothes with him.

Roxanna

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predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

Re: ( ) Toilet training

I have the same problem with my 6yo dd aspie, it took us forever to get her somewhat potty trained. However, we are still having problems at night as well as during the day. When she peed herself she wouldn't tell me and just sat in it until I would notice. She has to wear night time pull-ups and I use a panty liner during the day which gives her that extra protection. We still have to tell her to go to the bathroom and just try. If I didn't and just let her rely on herself then she would have an accident. She'll just tell me that her pee's not here. I've heard from others that it may take YEARS before she is completely PT.

Also if you live in PA, have medical assistance and your child is over 3 years of age, medical assistance will pay for pull-ups and the panty liners as well. YEAH! You just have to get a script from your doctor and

send it to a medical supply place. They will provide 300 a year. Any amount over that you will need a pre-authorization, then you can get an unlimited amount.

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Hello All!

Does anyone know why my 3.5 year old Aspie does not tell

us when he wants to pee or poo? We take him to the

bathroom on a schedule with some accidents but his pants

are dry most of the time between bathroom visits. Is it

that he does not feel? or is it that he does not know the

words to say it?

Thanks!

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Nick Feldman

Owner/Founder

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

- Santayana

1757 Alcatraz Avenue

Berkeley, CA. 94703

www.DareToDreamAttendantServices.com

510-350-8742(Client line)

510-350-8752(Main line)

510-350-8781(fax)

1-800-988-9927(toll free)

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