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[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone:

I have a question Should a child with autism who has only olimited

words and who has lot of sensory issues be sent to a normal school (if

your state allows it) or send to a special school only

We currently live in a place in India in place where autism is slowly

coming to the forefront and hence does not have much when comes to

special education especially autism. Everyone states that my child be

sent to a normal school (in fact they suggest that all kids with autism

should be sent to a normal school)despite the fact that my son has very

limitted words and does stim a lot and have sensory issues.

The reason they tell is if send to a normal school children with ASD

can see many role models and this will help with the childs language

and can learn many other skills from their peers. Been in the US for

many years i am unable to digest the way special need kids are treated

in special ed classes here in my city (as most of the teachers who

handle these kids are trained only to handle kids with MR) and the

regular ed teachers overlook many of these kids special needs.

Personaly, i feel that first of all autism should be treated seperately

as there are many surprises in it and it can be only handled by some

one who is wholeheartedly dedicated in the field .

I would like to know the groups opinion on this whether kids with

autism should be sent to a normal school or to a special ed class and

why they feel so

Thanks in advance

SPG

[Guest guest]

Hello,

With a student with severe special needs one-on-one necessitates a

specialized environment dedicated to individualized instruction. I

would fade into a normal rather than a special-needs setting or

classroon because special needs situations have more variables to

complicate things and wouldn't likely set the better example for

supporting what individuals with special would be like within such a

context.

Of course mainstreaming, of sorts, compromises what the higher

functioning students might get out of the situation (perhaps) where

the needs of the situation are considered the priority, as they

probably must be. But abuse is also less likely to happen in such a

situation with so many witnesses and intelligent minds interacting in

such a situation, is my sense of that. The more advanced students

would have to be conscripted on how to behave in such a, less than

normal situation, where they couldn't figure that out for themselves,

guided by their social responsibility and skills to do so,

(conscience?) which I feel would be a " plus, " to a more variable and

unpredictable circumstance.

Resources, with respect to quality of teaching staff and related

resources considered " equal, " is what I'm talking to of this

analysis. Where they are not equal, of course that changes

everything relative to what teaching staff and supporting resources

are available relative to the choices you are comparing as to the

individual situation, which would indeed weigh " heavily " on the

prospects and outcome of what can be accomplished, which you have not

provided details to and I wouldn't assume towards. Consider that you

might need as many as one specialized teaching assistant for each

one, or two, moderate to severely special-needs students to offset

with the normal setting without such challenges, perhaps?

My experience has also taught me that normal folks (especially

adults) are more tolerant and understanding of unpredicatable

behavior in probably being better able to handle it, of logically

being better able to handle themselves, or would at least more

quickly learn to adapt to what develops, thereof. (We can hope?)

You, as all of us, are subject to the resources available in that

respect, and very often it is what accomodates the school (or society

at large) that limits your options there, where you can't afford what

might be better to optimal alternatives that might exist where you

could afford them, otherwise, perhaps? Moving might be the more

reasonable option where you could afford that, time also being of the

essence. Things do have to start at the home and can go a " long " way

there (if not all the way) where you are still undecided and have the

resources for that, even taking on more yourself where you can.

Look before you leap and do what you can with what you've got I would

advise, where there is usually a significant transition burden

associated with moving from the familiar if not more comfortable and

better understood, natural environment, to the unknown or relatively

unknown, that may not be what it purports to be? There " is " a

tendency (if not full-blown conflict) for misrepresentation where

resources are concerned, from those who provide them for profit

especially, of human nature, thereof, which I'm sure everyone normal

is somewhat familiar with?

On the other side of that, a change is as good as a rest and a new

locale can help break a cycle of abuse, especially where relatives

and set-in-their-way friends and associates are concerned, if that

should be your problem, as well. But I wouldn't compromise myself or

my family in the process, of " true " (honest) family and friends,

because that usually is what life and a more reasonable upbringing

(dare I say ABA) " is " very much about.. .

ABA analysts from around the world can usually provide most else that

you might need where you are, usually with what you've got in a

civilized world, (I believe, though I haven't been there or done

that, your place) especially where there is a university or school of

higher learning nearby, where you are generally happy where you are,

where learning a new language wouldn't be the primary issue perhaps.

A reasonably competent analyst should be able to work around most of

that is my sense of it. It all very much depends what you want out

of life in the bigger picture. " You " have to be happy too

Best wishes in that respect,

Mike

Volunteer ABAJ

>

> Hi Everyone:

> I have a question Should a child with autism who has only olimited

> words and who has lot of sensory issues be sent to a normal school

(if

> your state allows it) or send to a special school only

> We currently live in a place in India in place where autism is

slowly

> coming to the forefront and hence does not have much when comes to

> special education especially autism. Everyone states that my child

be

> sent to a normal school (in fact they suggest that all kids with

autism

> should be sent to a normal school)despite the fact that my son has

very

> limitted words and does stim a lot and have sensory issues.

> The reason they tell is if send to a normal school children with

ASD

> can see many role models and this will help with the childs

language

> and can learn many other skills from their peers. Been in the US

for

> many years i am unable to digest the way special need kids are

treated

> in special ed classes here in my city (as most of the teachers who

> handle these kids are trained only to handle kids with MR) and the

> regular ed teachers overlook many of these kids special needs.

> Personaly, i feel that first of all autism should be treated

seperately

> as there are many surprises in it and it can be only handled by

some

> one who is wholeheartedly dedicated in the field .

>

> I would like to know the groups opinion on this whether kids with

> autism should be sent to a normal school or to a special ed class

and

> why they feel so

>

> Thanks in advance

> SPG

>

[Guest guest]

" Inclusion " may be the better word than mainstreaming for our intents

and purposes, where mainstreaming might for some, imply something

other than an individualized approach to education as within the

group or mainstream, which I'm not aware it formally does, but, just

to be on the safe side, the word/concept " inclusion " would perhaps

better rule that possibility out and be better suited for our intents

and purposes? It also seems to be more in vogue by others, I'm

finding.. .

Best wishes, with respect to trying to clear things up, (as best I

can) as things change, where " communication " is the main part of such

change " as " development, in that respect of It.. .

On how to get there, perhaps, of learning " from " our changes, Thereof.

Mike

So, it's not really " lying " in that respect?!. It's " censorship "

that denies that (me?), that I Feel I have the bigger problem with..

More on political " positivism " (abuse? Thereof?) for another time, if

I may, of relative abuse, thereof? Where we all could be more

meaningful in this respect of that is my sense of It.

What of value have you got out of your kids/students lately? .. . Of

course I want to hear about that, especially.. .

> >

> > Hi Everyone:

> > I have a question Should a child with autism who has only

olimited

> > words and who has lot of sensory issues be sent to a normal

school

> (if

> > your state allows it) or send to a special school only

> > We currently live in a place in India in place where autism is

> slowly

> > coming to the forefront and hence does not have much when comes

to

> > special education especially autism. Everyone states that my

child

> be

> > sent to a normal school (in fact they suggest that all kids with

> autism

> > should be sent to a normal school)despite the fact that my son

has

> very

> > limitted words and does stim a lot and have sensory issues.

> > The reason they tell is if send to a normal school children with

> ASD

> > can see many role models and this will help with the childs

> language

> > and can learn many other skills from their peers. Been in the US

> for

> > many years i am unable to digest the way special need kids are

> treated

> > in special ed classes here in my city (as most of the teachers

who

> > handle these kids are trained only to handle kids with MR) and

the

> > regular ed teachers overlook many of these kids special needs.

> > Personaly, i feel that first of all autism should be treated

> seperately

> > as there are many surprises in it and it can be only handled by

> some

> > one who is wholeheartedly dedicated in the field .

> >

> > I would like to know the groups opinion on this whether kids with

> > autism should be sent to a normal school or to a special ed class

> and

> > why they feel so

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > SPG

> >

>