Thyroid

March 24, 2005

> I have a friend who has problems with his thyroid. >

> His thyroid fluctuates. This last time he was hypo-thyroid so he's

taking thyroid meds. However, he's gaining weight and doesn't

understand why. Neither does the doctor. He has asked me if there

is an herb or other natural source that can regulate his weight gain

and thyroid.

>

> Help or info from all you great people with knowledge of this would

be greatly appreciated.

>

> Oh, and he refuses to eat raw or fresh greens- only canned (home

canned and store bought). And he was raised on a farm. Go figure.

He does eat fruit and berries that he grows, lots of melons and other

stuff, but his diet really scares me. I finally got him off the

vegetable oil and on to olive oil. But, if I push too hard, he just

changes the subject. He does take vitamins and herbs, so anything in

that department would be easy to get him to take.

>

> Thanks,

>

> K.C.

Ok K.C.

Here are some resources for you to read and maybe recommend him to

read. http://thyroid.about.com/cs/basics_starthere/a/thyroid101.htm

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/thyroidhealth.htm

http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/newsletter/2005/feb/15/boost_your_thyro

id_and_your_energy.php

Several things may make his thyroid problems worse - you are on the

right track about getting rid of the vegetable oils. The most

nourishing oil for thyroid is Virgin Coconut Oil. It's pricey. But

it's delicious! It will also help with weight loss for most people.

As for fresh raw veggies - actually there are some that should be

avoided when it comes to thyroid - the cruciferious veggies -

cabbage, broccoli, raw kale, collards, brussels sprouts and

cauliflower? These can be lacto fermented to get rid of the thyroid

suppressing effects.

The other no-no is soy. It is very hard on the thyroid.

You're right - don't push. If he has access to the internet forward

these website links to him. If not, maybe you can print some of it

out and hand to him. It will be up to him to decide on getting the

education to fight thyroid problems. According to one article, it's

estimated that approx 27 million Americans have a thyroid problem.

I am self diagnosed as having a bit of a sluggish thyroid. I eat 2

to 3 Tablespoons a day of virgin coconut oil. I melt some to go into

my daily kefir fruit smoothie. It's a very stable oil for cooking. I

bake with it - part butter part VCO. You can make wonderful chocolate

coconut candies with it. It's also easy on the gall bladder, is anti

fungal, anti viral, etc etc. Good Stuff!

Hope some of this helps

Rhonda

March 26, 2005

You've already gotten some great links, and info. on VCO. If his thyroid meds. aren't at optimal level, that would effect weight. He may need an increase in his meds. The key is finding a dr. who will treat the patient and symptoms, not just the lab results.

L-tyrosine (500 mg.) is a thyroid booster. It can be taken to treat hypothyroidism, but NOT if the diagnosis is thryoiditis (an auto-immune disorder).

H.

Thyroid

..

His thyroid fluctuates. This last time he was hypo-thyroid so he's taking thyroid meds. However, he's gaining weight and doesn't understand why. Neither does the doctor. He has asked me if there is an herb or other natural source that can regulate his weight gain and thyroid.

March 26, 2005

You've already gotten some great links, and info. on VCO. If his thyroid meds. aren't at optimal level, that would effect weight. He may need an increase in his meds. The key is finding a dr. who will treat the patient and symptoms, not just the lab results.

L-tyrosine (500 mg.) is a thyroid booster. It can be taken to treat hypothyroidism, but NOT if the diagnosis is thryoiditis (an auto-immune disorder).

H.

Thyroid

..

His thyroid fluctuates. This last time he was hypo-thyroid so he's taking thyroid meds. However, he's gaining weight and doesn't understand why. Neither does the doctor. He has asked me if there is an herb or other natural source that can regulate his weight gain and thyroid.

March 26, 2005

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

I forgot aobut the L-tyrosine. I'll let him know. He does not have an auto-immune situation, which is a good thing.

Thanks.

K.C.

Thyroid

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His thyroid fluctuates. This last time he was hypo-thyroid so he's taking thyroid meds. However, he's gaining weight and doesn't understand why. Neither does the doctor. He has asked me if there is an herb or other natural source that can regulate his weight gain and thyroid.PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

March 26, 2005

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

I forgot aobut the L-tyrosine. I'll let him know. He does not have an auto-immune situation, which is a good thing.

Thanks.

K.C.

Thyroid

..

His thyroid fluctuates. This last time he was hypo-thyroid so he's taking thyroid meds. However, he's gaining weight and doesn't understand why. Neither does the doctor. He has asked me if there is an herb or other natural source that can regulate his weight gain and thyroid.PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

March 26, 2005

The dosage isn't based on the person's "size," it's based on the level of thyroid function. Do you know if he's taking a natural or synthetic thyroid replacement (i.e. Synthroid or Armour)?

H.

Re: Thyroid

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

March 26, 2005

The dosage isn't based on the person's "size," it's based on the level of thyroid function. Do you know if he's taking a natural or synthetic thyroid replacement (i.e. Synthroid or Armour)?

H.

Re: Thyroid

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

March 26, 2005

He's taking a pharmaceutical prescribed by the doctor. I serously doubt that it's natural.

I realize it doesn't go by size and I shouldn't have said someone of his size. I realized that later. But, I still think the dose is too low. He's very tired, like before he went to the doctor. He forces himself to work and get up and do what he needs to.

I told him to get an ekg just to check out his heart since there is some heart problems with is brothers.

Doctors here don't check your heart except by how it sounds or unless there is an obvious problem. Small town, small town thinking. Very poor medical for the most part. But, then I'm not big on M.D.'s.

K.C.

Re: Thyroid

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

March 26, 2005

He's taking a pharmaceutical prescribed by the doctor. I serously doubt that it's natural.

I realize it doesn't go by size and I shouldn't have said someone of his size. I realized that later. But, I still think the dose is too low. He's very tired, like before he went to the doctor. He forces himself to work and get up and do what he needs to.

I told him to get an ekg just to check out his heart since there is some heart problems with is brothers.

Doctors here don't check your heart except by how it sounds or unless there is an obvious problem. Small town, small town thinking. Very poor medical for the most part. But, then I'm not big on M.D.'s.

K.C.

Re: Thyroid

I'm a bit pissed at his doc. He's got him on a very low dose and is waiting 3 months to see how it works. He could tell in 1 month to see if the dosage is right. I guess being careful instead of overdosing is better, but for a man my friend size, the dose is really low.

PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

July 24, 2007

Sara,

Someone also posted the pediatric reference ranges, see if you can find them in the archives. You are using the adult reference range.

2.1 is a very low Free T3, if you got the Free T3 and I can tell with some certainty that he does not have enough.

IMO, forget about the ped endocrinologist. He'll also use the adult range and even if he doesn't he/she will prescribe synthetic thyroid medication. I have had many of my little patients on synthetics and I have never seen one get better as all they do is raise T4, not Free T3. Free T3 is the one needed in the right levels for proper brain development in children.

Try a Dan! or a chiropracter who understands this.

Thyroid

Hi all,There was a discussion about thyroid hormones and hashimotos in the past. I just received my sons test results and I was wondering if anyone could give me feedback. His T4 was 10.4 I think the range is 4.7-10.8. So it it showing he is in range but just in range. His T3 was 2.1 and I think range is .8-2.2 So again he is very close. For those that know about thyroid and ranges I was wondering if you could give me any advise. Should I consult an endocronologist? I have hashimotos thyroid. I am still nursing and I take synthroid.Any input is greatly appreciated.Sara

July 29, 2007

Hi Sara, I'm away from my desktop but there was a very useful link I posted recently on hashm and h. encephalitis (which could well be another word for some forms of autism IMO) one of the things it mentioned that throid antibodies could be creating problems even in the absence of any abnormal thyroid markers... if you have access to a good endocronologist for your son it would be worth checking the levels of those antibodies that might have passed through pregnancy or breastmilk. Regardless of thyroid function results.

If you want to read those things in detail remind me in ten days or so when I'm back home and will look for those links.

hth

Natasa

>> Hi all,> There was a discussion about thyroid hormones and hashimotos in the > past. I just received my sons test results and I was wondering if > anyone could give me feedback. His T4 was 10.4 I think the range is > 4.7-10.8. So it it showing he is in range but just in range. His T3 > was 2.1 and I think range is .8-2.2 So again he is very close. For > those that know about thyroid and ranges I was wondering if you could > give me any advise. Should I consult an endocronologist? I have > hashimotos thyroid. I am still nursing and I take synthroid.> Any input is greatly appreciated.> Sara>

September 7, 2007

Hi Sara, imo you should test him for presence of thyroid antibodies

REGARDLESS of his thyroid function/ T3 T4 tests results. These

antibodies, if he has them, could be causing neurological problems

(autism!) by attacking the brain.

This really is worth reading through and showing to your DAN! (if you

scroll down each page has more links with further info on treatments

etc):

http://thyroid.about.com/od/relatedconditions1/a/sreat.htm

http://thyroid.about.com/od/hypothyroidismhashimotos/a/treatmentnormal.h\

tm

good news if he does have those antibodies there now seem to be things

that help stop them do damage.

hth

natasa

>

> I have brought up the discussion on thyroid levels before and my son

> has been tested a few times and was in the high normal range for both

> T4 and T3. We went back bc they didn't run the free T3 (they claimed

> they don't have that test) so they ran the T3 again and this time it

> was just above normal range. I have a phone consult coming up to

> discuss this with Dr. DeMio (our DAN) but wanted any thoughts from

> anyone experienced with thyroid issues (Natasa?). I have hashimotos

> hypothyroid. I am wondering if he should be on something like armour

> thyroid? I am nursing and I take synthroid but I know that it doesn't

> have T3.

> Also I have been wondering about adding MB12 nasal spray. He is 18

> months and has been on the shots since he was 9 months. He had an

> initial wow but nothing since. I think he may need something more.

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks,

> Sara

>

September 7, 2007

Hi Natasa,

He was tested for antibodies but was in normal range. I think it

was <20. To me that says they could still be there but very low. I

guess they don't test down further? THe things to prevent

antibodies from doing damage are the thyroid hormone meds?

Thanks,

Sara

> >

> > I have brought up the discussion on thyroid levels before and my

son

> > has been tested a few times and was in the high normal range for

both

> > T4 and T3. We went back bc they didn't run the free T3 (they

claimed

> > they don't have that test) so they ran the T3 again and this

time it

> > was just above normal range. I have a phone consult coming up to

> > discuss this with Dr. DeMio (our DAN) but wanted any thoughts

from

> > anyone experienced with thyroid issues (Natasa?). I have

hashimotos

> > hypothyroid. I am wondering if he should be on something like

armour

> > thyroid? I am nursing and I take synthroid but I know that it

doesn't

> > have T3.

> > Also I have been wondering about adding MB12 nasal spray. He is

18

> > months and has been on the shots since he was 9 months. He had

an

> > initial wow but nothing since. I think he may need something

more.

> > Any thoughts?

> > Thanks,

> > Sara

> >

>

September 7, 2007

Hi, there are a couple of treatments that get a mention on the website I

posted below, not sure if thyroid hormone meds are amongst those.

Steroids would be, and levetrx...

natasa

> > >

> > > I have brought up the discussion on thyroid levels before and my

> son

> > > has been tested a few times and was in the high normal range for

> both

> > > T4 and T3. We went back bc they didn't run the free T3 (they

> claimed

> > > they don't have that test) so they ran the T3 again and this

> time it

> > > was just above normal range. I have a phone consult coming up to

> > > discuss this with Dr. DeMio (our DAN) but wanted any thoughts

> from

> > > anyone experienced with thyroid issues (Natasa?). I have

> hashimotos

> > > hypothyroid. I am wondering if he should be on something like

> armour

> > > thyroid? I am nursing and I take synthroid but I know that it

> doesn't

> > > have T3.

> > > Also I have been wondering about adding MB12 nasal spray. He is

> 18

> > > months and has been on the shots since he was 9 months. He had

> an

> > > initial wow but nothing since. I think he may need something

> more.

> > > Any thoughts?

> > > Thanks,

> > > Sara

> > >

> >

>

September 7, 2007

Many ASD children are cropping up with

thyroid issues. Metals are suspected. My son has hypothyroidism and takes

Armour. We have a strong family history of this.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Sara

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007

10:33 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Thyroid

I have brought up the discussion on thyroid levels

before and my son

has been tested a few times and was

in the high normal range for both

T4 and T3. We went back bc they didn't run the free T3 (they claimed

they don't have that test) so they ran the T3 again and this time it

was just above normal range. I have a phone consult coming up to

discuss this with Dr. DeMio (our DAN) but wanted any thoughts from

anyone experienced with thyroid issues (Natasa?). I have hashimotos

hypothyroid. I am wondering if he should be on something

like armour

thyroid? I am nursing and I take synthroid but I know that it doesn't

have T3.

Also I have been wondering about adding MB12 nasal spray. He is 18

months and has been on the shots since he was 9 months. He had an

initial wow but nothing since. I think he may need something

more.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Sara

September 7, 2007

Have you tested him for antibodies?

natasa

>

> Many ASD children are cropping up with thyroid issues. Metals are

> suspected. My son has hypothyroidism and takes Armour. We have a

strong

> family history of this.

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage

unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

> _____

>

> From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]

On

> Behalf Of Sara

> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:33 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Thyroid