viral load

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like a lot to me, but I haven’t looked at any statistics, that’s

just my gut. Has he tried tx? If not, it might be a good time to look into

it. We’re always happy when the readers speak up. Hope you continue to

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viral load

i have never posted on this group. i do sit back and read posts almost

everyday. we were told of my husbands illness in aug of last year. he

had blood work done then and his viral load was 1/2 million. he just

had more blood work done last week and his viral load is now 1.5

million. we are not sure how long he has had hep c but it seems that

is a huge number to climb that high in 5 months. so my question is

this is that alot for it to climb in that period of time?

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he is supposed to start tx on feb 8, although he has not had a

biopsy yet hospital has postponed it twice. i talked with his dr

yesterday and he is going to try to get it done before he starts tx.

has anyone done tx without the biopsy?

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Motley " wrote:

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> Seems like a lot to me, but I haven't looked at any statistics,

that's just

> my gut. Has he tried tx? If not, it might be a good time to look

into it.

> We're always happy when the readers speak up. Hope you continue

to join in.

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> viral load

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> i have never posted on this group. i do sit back and read posts

almost

> everyday. we were told of my husbands illness in aug of last year.

he

> had blood work done then and his viral load was 1/2 million. he

just

> had more blood work done last week and his viral load is now 1.5

> million. we are not sure how long he has had hep c but it seems

that

> is a huge number to climb that high in 5 months. so my question is

> this is that alot for it to climb in that period of time?

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I am geno type 2 and told that because of that no biopsy is needed unless i reall want one.babygirlmadeline wrote: he is supposed to start tx on feb 8, although he has not had a biopsy yet hospital has postponed it twice. i talked with his dr yesterday and he is going to try to get it done before he starts tx. has anyone done tx without the biopsy?-- In HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies , "

Motley" wrote:>> Seems like a lot to me, but I haven't looked at any statistics, that's just> my gut. Has he tried tx? If not, it might be a good time to look into it.> We're always happy when the readers speak up. Hope you continue to join in.> > > > > >

viral load> > > > > i have never posted on this group. i do sit back and read posts almost > everyday. we were told of my husbands illness in aug of last year. he > had blood work done then and his viral load was 1/2 million. he just > had more blood work done last week and his viral load is now 1.5 > million. we are not sure how long he has had hep c but it seems that > is a huge number to climb that high in 5 months. so my question is > this is that alot for it to climb in that period of time?>

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My hepatologist told me that viral load can vary dramatically up or down on any given day. Nothing they can predict and it isn't related to the level of liver damage that you have. They only pay attention to viral load in relation to whether tx is working or not. They do a benchmark test and test it periodically to see the effectiveness of tx. Hope this is helpful. babygirlmadeline wrote: i have never posted on this group. i do sit back and read posts almost everyday. we were told of my husbands illness in aug of last year. he had blood work done then and his viral load was 1/2 million. he just had more blood work done last week and his viral load is now 1.5 million. we are not sure how long he has had hep c but it seems that is a huge number to climb that high in 5 months. so my question is this is that alot for it to climb in that period of time?

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Some have but I wouldnt recommend it..the bx is so very important...I needed to know the extint of my liver damage...I believe most that have not had the bx may have been under a GPs care..not a specialist..

viral load> > > > > i have never posted on this group. i do sit back and read posts almost > everyday. we were told of my husbands illness in aug of last year. he > had blood work done then and his viral load was 1/2 million. he just > had more blood work done last week and his viral load is now 1.5 > million. we are not sure how long he has had hep c but it seems that > is a huge number to climb that high in 5 months. so my question is > this is that alot for it to climb in that period of time?>

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Some

doctors think an ultrasound is sufficient and some don’t require either.

I know people who have done tx without a biopsy. Viral load is the measure of

whether tx is working or not. We’re here for both of you when he starts –

now too.

Re: viral load

he is supposed to start

tx on feb 8, although he has not had a

biopsy yet hospital has postponed it twice. i talked with his dr

yesterday and he is going to try to get it done before he starts tx.

has anyone done tx without the biopsy?

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That

is exactly correct. VL is only good for determining if tx is working.

Re:

viral load

My hepatologist told me that viral load can vary dramatically up

or down on any given day. Nothing they can predict and it isn't related

to the level of liver damage that you have. They only pay attention to

viral load in relation to whether tx is working or not. They do a

benchmark test and test it periodically to see the effectiveness of tx.

Hope this is helpful.

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<50 copies is undetectable...wishing you all the luck donna...hugs, Pat

viral load

I have just made an appt. to see my hep doc, and try tx again. I will have a viral load drawn in next couple of days. Before I started tx I was greater than 2 mil, became undectable up until I stopped. I was wondering if anyone has exp with this, will the viral load be undectable, higher, or lower? The hep nurse at that time could give me no answers, can anyone offer me any insight? Of course this time I have a lot more knowledge, thanks to you all, and intend to be more active in my plan of care. I'm sure doc will love me hanging my shingle next to his, he had a good sense of humour before, hope he still does!Hope everyone has a great day!Donna

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Oh I thought there was a number for the liver panels that was normal everywhere.

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Oh, Donna. I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you are doing ok. Hugs, VickieG

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I have just made an appt. to see my hep doc, and try tx again. I will have a viral load drawn in next couple of days. Before I started tx I was greater than 2 mil, became undectable up until I stopped. I was wondering if anyone has exp with this, will the viral load be undectable, higher, or lower? The hep nurse at that time could give me no answers, can anyone offer me any insight? Of course this time I have a lot more knowledge, thanks to you all, and intend to be more active in my plan of care. I'm sure doc will love me hanging my shingle next to his, he had a good sense of humour before, hope he still does!Hope everyone has a great day!Donna

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You

have to know the VL when you start so you know if tx is working.

RE:

viral load

Hi ,

I had to stop, my labs got to low, had to have a

transfusion, reduced meds,and procrit 3x/wk. Labs weren't getting any better so

doc stopped it. At that time i was working 50-60 hours a week so that didn't

help. Like i said this time i will play a very active role in the tx. Maybe

start out with lower dose and work up, instead of having to go down. I have

already asked for copies of my medical records and will use that as a baseline.

I know many people have been on tx more than once, so I was curios if they

knew the vl each time? Thanks for all input. Hope every one has a great day!

Donna

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Hi , I have a friend who has a viral load of over 20.000.000 Al's was just 22.000 I don't know what mine is Ihave so many health probelm's i don't ask anymore moo Doyle wrote: I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it

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D. ~~ Any amount of viral load in a person who has Hep C is considered "normal" in the sense it represents you have active virus. I wouldn't be alarmed by the increase. Viral loads can fluctuate on a day to day basis. They do a viral load at the beginning of tx as a benchmark so they will have something to compare it to determine whether the tx is working for you. I know when the viral numbers get bigger, psychologically we are affected. The viral load itself is not an indicator of the stage (amount of damage to your liver) and the grade is reguarding the amount of inflamation ) of your liver and liver disease. To tell those, one

has to have a biopsy. I can't seem to recall whether you had one or not. If you haven't had one, made you can suggest for your doc will order it (it's not a difficult procedure, doesn't hurt but is just a little uncomfortable for a day or so. When you know the stage (1 is mild and 4 is cirrohsis) you have of fibrosis and then the grade (1-4) it will determine the condition of your liver, so you would probably have a better picture of where your health is at and why you feel so bad even before tx. Get a few good nights sleep Wednesday and Thursday to prepare for Friday. I will be praying for you as you start on the next leg of your journey. I'll keep an eye out for you. Best of luck

in tx, Doyle wrote: I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2

hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes. D

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I made a tons of soups the last months or so to get through a few weeks. Bob will cook he is better than me and I am a chef. Friday night we make omemade pizza and then will do the shot. Tonight Bob s cooking whatever I want for my "last supper." In case tx is hard on me. DVickieG wrote: , another thing. In case

your hubby does not cook, have some things in the kitchen that are quick and easy to fix for lunches and dinners. Maybe you can make a casserole today for dinner tomorrow night and hubby can heat it up for you if you are too ill to do it. I suspect that your first shot will be just fine. In that case, you can continue as usual and freeze the casserole for the day that you just can't seem to function. It might happen eventually. It never hurts to be prepared for anything with this virus. You never know when your dragon will strike out. Best of luck with your tx. Hugs, VickieG [HepatitisCSupportG roupForDummies] viral load I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump

so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes. D Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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How nice to have a last meal of your choice! Soups are a good choice to have around. Let him pamper you as much as he will. It will make you feel better if you are not feeling well. My hubby doesn't cook, but he will go out and get things for me if I can't function in the kitchen. He's been a real rock through this treatment. I love to cook for him, so he knows that if I'm not in the kitchen, I do not feel well. I love watching Top Chef and currently am watching the reruns probably for the third or fourth time. Today my muscles are sore and all joints ache when I move. I'm wondering if I should put my right arm in a sling to remind me not to move it too far out

from my body as it pops out of and back into the joint all the time. It has made my arm so sore around that joint. I've been trying to stay up but I think I'm giving in to the dragon today. Everyone have a great day. Hugs to all, VickieG

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I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes.

D

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, the first time I tried tx, I worked any where from 40-60 hours per week, I really didn't have any side effects, I was tired but attributed that to the number of hours I worked altho it was also the meds, my hgb was dropping but that was a slow progression. I do remember feeling depressed, again i blamed it on working to much, and not enough sleep So you may not have to worry . I am thinking about tx again, only this time I will monitor my labs and work load closely. The doc or the hep nurse should have told me to slow down, they both knew the hours i worked. I guess what i am getting at, is that sometimes a little knowledge can be dangerous so don't go looking for problems, just let each day take it's course, and the mind is a powerful thing. You are young and that is in your favor. I am glad you have your husband with you, and the best thing you could have done was letting your teachers know.

Half the battle is a good support system. Good Luck,and slay that dragon!!!!! Donna Doyle wrote:

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I do have several people on my side through this. They are going to take turns ding the week coming over to check on me. plus they are each going to get a week with me in june when Bob leaves to go to Alaska fishing. I have great support. More than I thought I wouldDonna Sikes wrote: , the first time I tried tx, I worked any where from 40-60 hours per week, I really didn't have any side effects, I was tired but attributed that to the number of hours I worked altho it was also the meds, my hgb was

dropping but that was a slow progression. I do remember feeling depressed, again i blamed it on working to much, and not enough sleep So you may not have to worry . I am thinking about tx again, only this time I will monitor my labs and work load closely. The doc or the hep nurse should have told me to slow down, they both knew the hours i worked. I guess what i am getting at, is that sometimes a little knowledge can be dangerous so don't go looking for problems, just let each day take it's course, and the mind is a powerful thing. You are young and that is in your favor. I am glad you have your husband with you, and the best thing you could have done was letting your teachers know. Half the battle is a good support system. Good Luck,and slay that dragon!!!!! Donna Doyle <a_doyle07> wrote:

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Have you tried putting heat or ice or both on your shoulder. Or maybe even some icy hot if its ok. I understand about the loving to cook thing. Bob knows that too. I would be cooking all the time if I could. I love the show iron chef and also hells kitchen. Well take care get rest today and I will talk to you tomorrow.VickieG wrote: How nice to have a last

meal of your choice! Soups are a good choice to have around. Let him pamper you as much as he will. It will make you feel better if you are not feeling well. My hubby doesn't cook, but he will go out and get things for me if I can't function in the kitchen. He's been a real rock through this treatment. I love to cook for him, so he knows that if I'm not in the kitchen, I do not feel well. I love watching Top Chef and currently am watching the reruns probably for the third or fourth time. Today my muscles are sore and all joints ache when I move. I'm wondering if I should put my right arm in a sling to remind me not to move it too far out from my body as it pops out of and back into the joint all the time. It has made my arm so sore around that joint. I've been trying to stay up but I think I'm giving in to the dragon today. Everyone have a great day. Hugs to all, VickieG [HepatitisCSupportG roupForDummies] viral load I just have a quick question. In june of '07

my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes. D Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Hi, I'm back. It seams that I'm just miserable today. I take my shots Tuesday nights and this was a good week after the shot for me until this morning. It will be ok. I have had whole weeks like this. Misery lets me know that I'm still alive, I guess. And, I keep thinking about how close to the end of tx that I am. It helps to know that each shot I take means one less still to be taken. Hugs to the group. VickieG

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I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes.

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Sorry, I forgot to answer your question. I will try the heat pad next today since the bed hasn't helped any. Ty for for the suggestion. I just haven't thought of that today, I guess the brain isn't functioning at full speed again. This is chat night, I'll try to feel better at that time. Hugs, VickieG

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I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes.

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Vickie, I hope you fel better real soon. (HUG'S) mooVickieG wrote: Hi, I'm back. It seams that I'm just miserable today. I take my shots Tuesday nights and this was a good week after the shot for me until this morning. It will be ok. I have had whole weeks like this. Misery lets me know that I'm still alive, I guess. And,

I keep thinking about how close to the end of tx that I am. It helps to know that each shot I take means one less still to be taken. Hugs to the group. VickieG [HepatitisCSupportG roupForDummies] viral load I just have a quick question. In june of '07 my viral load was 2,400,000 which I was told at the time it was normal. Now its 3,943,950 is it normal to be that high? And have it jump so fast? Could this be why I feel so crapy all the time? 36 1/2 hours and counting til treatment starts. I will stay in touch and let you all know how it goes. D Be a better friend,

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Yes - and that's extremely low! Here's a chart:

http://www.hepatitis-central.com/hcv/hepatitis/loadchart.html

More tests:

http://www.hepatitis-central.com/hcv/labs/toc.html

And here's another site about other liver function tests

http://www.hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/hepatitis_C.asp

Try and remember that you have plenty of time to learn about this disease and the treatment side effects. Don't let anyone rush you into making a decision that you might not be ready to make.

Good luck!

Chris

In my other post I am not sure about the viral load I put but the lab report says 24,500 IU/mL and thenHVC....4.389log10 IU/mLDoes that mean his viral load is 24 thousand and 500 ?Thankyou for any help you can give meSharonLooking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

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In my other post I am not sure about the viral load I put but the lab

report says 24,500 IU/mL and then

HVC....4.389

log10 IU/mL

Does that mean his viral load is 24 thousand and 500 ?

Thankyou for any help you can give me

Sharon

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Thanks

I hadn't visited those websites--very informative. I liked the hcvadvocate .org And found the article/study on HCV symptoms Real or Imagined very interesting in terms of our outlook on having Hep C. On the hepatitis-Central website, there is a lot of excellent info on supplements on the Hep C Survivor link.

And I agree that it is important not to rush into treatment--especially now--when so many new treatments are going into clinical trials. The idea of 80-90% SVR for geno 1 in the near future without so many side effects looks so exciting. But for everyone, not rushing into treatment DOES NOT mean do nothing. Look into supplements, don't drink, watch the meds you take and eat a healthy diet while you are deciding what to do.

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