Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. Life is too short for what if's, jump in with both feet and go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOL Dick At 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Because you can handle anything and everything without any help from anyone and resent any possible implication that your life might be somewhat easier if you leaned on another human being even just a tiny bit????? Lol I’m serious here. Why do men think they have to keep everything in? Is it because when you’re that scared of something, you can’t let it show or you’ll fall apart completely? Or something like that? Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 It just cause thier Men...nuthin else... RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOLDickAt 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [ mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of AngelBsktsaolSent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:32 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi, This is Kim , 5 months into treatment. I want to brag on my husband. Although in the beginning I had to convince him of the seriousness of the diagnosis, after that he went to landmark Doctor visits and he’s been an excellent caregiver. He’s given all my shots, followed up that I’ve taken meds and will get up out of bed in the wink of an eye to get me ibuprofen when I’m aching or water when thirsty. He’s compassionate. Oh did I mention he’s a veterinarian? Kim It just cause thier Men...nuthin else... RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOL Dick At 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 That’s great Kim! I bet the things in him that make him take care of you are the same things that made him first want to take care of animals. But you did say you had to convince him it was serious – did he stick his head in the sand? What was his initial reaction? Denial? RE: Hey, men???? Hi, This is Kim , 5 months into treatment. I want to brag on my husband. Although in the beginning I had to convince him of the seriousness of the diagnosis, after that he went to landmark Doctor visits and he’s been an excellent caregiver. He’s given all my shots, followed up that I’ve taken meds and will get up out of bed in the wink of an eye to get me ibuprofen when I’m aching or water when thirsty. He’s compassionate. Oh did I mention he’s a veterinarian? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sooooooooooooooooo true lol lol lol lol lol Motley wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of AngelBsktsaolSent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:32 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. Life is too short for what if's, jump in with both feet and go for it. LINDA Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Iam am not a man but you sure made me took a good look at myslef !! Motley wrote: Because you can handle anything and everything without any help from anyone and resent any possible implication that your life might be somewhat easier if you leaned on another human being even just a tiny bit????? Lol I’m serious here. Why do men think they have to keep everything in? Is it because when you’re that scared of something, you can’t let it show or you’ll fall apart completely? Or something like that? -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of Dick SouthernSent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:53 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOLDickAt 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [ mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of AngelBsktsaolSent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:32 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. LINDA Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 That simple in my dreamspat mcbride wrote: It just cause thier Men...nuthin else... RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOLDickAt 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [ mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of AngelBsktsaolSent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:32 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: New Member Introduction I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that we worry even more when they shut us out. this group is great and very supportive so please continue to stay in touch with us all. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM LINDA Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi , Pat, It's a good question My answer is that's it's social dogma. We have been 'trained' this way.... It is changing I believe, Remember the sixties? and long befor that. Big boys don't cry Big boys smile and take the pain If your lost, what good are you? you are unreliable. Don't show your weakness...to ANYONE! Big strong men don't get sick! Long ago men where the hunters...providers.. if your sick and even too weak to move, what good are you? Can't hunt? Then you are not a good man. That's some I can think of right away. Men feel an obligation to protect not be protected. This has changed drastically over the years, but still lingers............ A man can be dying.... most will stand and beat their chest, while they take their one last breath ........ if danger threatens him or his. Put on a facade, for the enemy to see that your still protected, and the family. It may seem like BS to some, but some of us are still that way .... Big Boys DON " T cry!!!!! I hope this helps you see The why's and whats, of what some think.... is complete insanity. Del --- linda tippett wrote: > That simple in my dreams > > pat mcbride wrote: It just > cause thier Men...nuthin else... > Re: New Member > Introduction > > I am a caregiver as well. My husband just started his tx - did > his second shot on Friday ( this is his second type of treatment > - the 1st being 7 years ago). It is scary for them too and > sometimes they want to just push the ones they love away to try > and protect them and make them not worry. They don't realize that > we worry even more when they shut us out. > > this group is great and very supportive so please continue to > stay in touch with us all. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 11:57 AM > > > > > > LINDA > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Thanks, Del. I knew you’d give an honest answer. It makes sense. Do any other men have input on this? So does this translate to feelings of worthlessness when you have serious chronic illness – maybe now while you’re still functioning well, but when you get to limboland where you can’t work but can’t get a transplant either? De Re: Hey, men???? Hi , Pat, It's a good question My answer is that's it's social dogma. We have been 'trained' this way.... It is changing I believe, Remember the sixties? and long befor that. Big boys don't cry Big boys smile and take the pain If your lost, what good are you? you are unreliable. Don't show your weakness...to ANYONE! Big strong men don't get sick! Long ago men where the hunters...providers.. if your sick and even too weak to move, what good are you? Can't hunt? Then you are not a good man. That's some I can think of right away. Men feel an obligation to protect not be protected. This has changed drastically over the years, but still lingers............ A man can be dying.... most will stand and beat their chest, while they take their one last breath ........ if danger threatens him or his. Put on a facade, for the enemy to see that your still protected, and the family. It may seem like BS to some, but some of us are still that way .... Big Boys DON " T cry!!!!! I hope this helps you see The why's and whats, of what some think.... is complete insanity. Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Being a vet you need patience cause you patient doesn't always understand you are trying to help. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of kim thompsonSent: January 6, 2008 3:24 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey, men???? Hi, This is Kim , 5 months into treatment. I want to brag on my husband. Although in the beginning I had to convince him of the seriousness of the diagnosis, after that he went to landmark Doctor visits and he’s been an excellent caregiver. He’s given all my shots, followed up that I’ve taken meds and will get up out of bed in the wink of an eye to get me ibuprofen when I’m aching or water when thirsty. He’s compassionate. Oh did I mention he’s a veterinarian? Kim It just cause thier Men...nuthin else... RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOLDickAt 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 It might be because of that rib we lost so long ago. Dick At 02:26 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: It just cause thier Men...nuthin else... RE: Hey, men???? Maybe it is the same reason that we won't ask for directions when we are lost....LOL Dick At 12:56 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: Can/will any of you tell us women why many of you do this? We wish we could understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hi .. Thanks for your reply.. I have basically been in limboughland from day one. I, being a man, and the world I am worthless. Of course sometimes I feel I'm not appealing to women as a man should be, but I am not worthless. Since day one, no car no driving. I rode my M/C for awhile, because I needed to.. Then when it got dark, and started pouring rain, I looked around me (I live in --- Motley wrote: > Thanks, Del. I knew you'd give an honest answer. It makes > sense. Do any > other men have input on this? > > > > So does this translate to feelings of worthlessness when you have > serious > chronic illness - maybe now while you're still functioning well, > but when > you get to limboland where you can't work but can't get a > transplant either? > > > > De > > Re: Hey, men???? > > > > Hi , Pat, > > It's a good question > My answer is that's it's social dogma. > We have been 'trained' this way.... > It is changing I believe, > Remember the sixties? and long befor that. > > Big boys don't cry > Big boys smile and take the pain > If your lost, what good are you? you are unreliable. > Don't show your weakness...to ANYONE! > Big strong men don't get sick! > Long ago men where the hunters...providers.. > if your sick and even too weak to move, > what good are you? Can't hunt? > Then you are not a good man. > > That's some I can think of right away. > Men feel an obligation to protect > not be protected. This has changed drastically over the years, > but > still lingers............ > > A man can be dying.... > most will stand and beat their chest, > while they take their one last breath ........ > if danger threatens him or his. > Put on a facade, for the enemy to see > that your still protected, and the family. > > It may seem like BS to some, but some > of us are still that way > > ... Big Boys DON " T cry!!!!! > > I hope this helps you see > The why's and whats, > of what some think.... > is complete insanity. > Del > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I know none of us is worthless, but I meant the feeling of worthlessness from being “unproductive” as we once were. RE: Hey, men???? Hi .. Thanks for your reply.. I have basically been in limboughland from day one. I, being a man, and the world I am worthless. Of course sometimes I feel I'm not appealing to women as a man should be, but I am not worthless. Since day one, no car no driving. I rode my M/C for awhile, because I needed to.. Then when it got dark, and started pouring rain, I looked around me (I live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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