Re: Instructional Control at Home and Home schooling

[Guest guest]

formydear and group,

Before starting an ABA home program,you will need to develop as

expansive a menu of reinforcers as possible. If your daughter likes " junk

food, " quarantine any and all items in this catagory to assure that she has

access to them only during ABA sessions. Chose simple promptable tasks like

sitting in a chair from standing in front of it,waving a flag that you place

in her hand,pushing/pulling a wheeled toy,etc.

Each time she succeeds(which,with your physical prompts,such be as close

to 1005 as possible!) give a small portion of a treat COMBINED WITH

ENTHUSIASTIC PRAISE AND BRIEF ACCESS TO A TOY. In a minute or less,move on

to the next simple task ans continue pairing the preferred reinforcer,junk

food in this example. This procedure is called pairing and your daughter

will eventually find you,or any therapist using pairing,as reinforcing or

more so,than the junk food. You are also conditioning her to find toy play

reinforcing.

Because your daughter has apparently reached age six without ABA,it may

take her longer to learn to enjoy ABA but if you keep at it,she will. It is

never too late and the sooner you start,the easier it will be. The hard

part is maintaining the discipline to deny access to reinforcement outside

of ABA. It can be done and be mindful that your daughter will derive great

benefit.

,Colin P's mom

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:56 PM, formydear9 <formydear9@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have a 6 year old daughter with autism. She is in a self contained ABA

> class at a public school.I do not feel like

>

> she is making the expected progress there, she is learning but it's very

> slow. I am planning on home schooling her

>

> and that very thought scraes me but I want to really consider and give it a

> try.

>

> My biggest concern with home schooling or for that matter working with her

> is, I DO NOT have instructional control

>

> on her, she just doesn't listen to me and work with me. To make her do a

> little thing is a HUGE tantrum and a big

>

> fight.How do I start establishing instructional control with her? What do I

> need to do and start? At school, they

>

> train me as to how to work on things with her, she does great when the

> instructor is here but the minute they leave

>

> she just doesn't want to do that. She is NOT motivated with these tasks,

> the problem though is there is NOTHING

>

> motivating for her except each junk food like cookies and candy which I

> can't keep on feeding for the whole day.She

>

> tantrums to come in to the house and so I try to make the time with me very

> enjoyable for her so that she will come

>

> inside the hosue nicely. If I get strict, I am very nervous that she will

> tantrum for coming inside the house. Where

>

> do I start? I worked with several BCBAs but nobody had a solution wherein I

> could just work with her and at the same

>

> have a decent relationship as a mom and daughter.

>

> My second concern is how do you maintain that discipline of working with

> child 6-8 hours a day and be motivated and

>

> dedicated at doing that?I work full time now, but I want to quit and work

> to do this, but I am nervous that I might

>

> not do a good job.

>

> Any thoughts, experiences and advice is greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

You will find that being honest (and not so manipulative? as contriving?) with

your daughter will be the most reinforcing thing of all for all that you need to

do, where you love and care for her, so much of that sort of honesty, of

understanding, I mean. There's no need to make that complicated, of going with

what you feel? as if that isn't what everything is about (which it is, I Feel,

of going with y/our intuition, of understanding, is my sense of it, of, we are

developing intuition where we are developing so much at All.. .

Talk to your daughter of what you're feeling (where you dare? of being so

principled) of *narration,* (and see what response you get from that and where

to go with things with that?) to develop as much from her, that anything could

be more helpful and meaningful than narration, for what we could be doing for

each other, including what must preceed errorless learning, (as with

stimulus/classical conditioning? of nurturing for the condition of health and

learning) where there would be anything to learn/ing at All? .. . (of, let's be

starting with developing the receptive in that respect? of also working on that

ourselves, of doing the analysis should (logically) take precedence over forcing

our language or anything else down the other/s throat? .. .). Try to understand

more yourself for your child to do as much? .. .

We started (and got) instructional control by rewarding our son for looking into

our eyes, to gain attention and provide reward in that respect. There was

something rewarding in our eyes in that respect, (Hello..) but we also

supplemented that with secondary (more external, perhaps) reinforcers that our

son also liked, of the identified external reinforcers that our son liked to

such affect, also fading that to what we considered more sustainable and

meaningful, to the environment if not the natural environment, no less, of the

truth, if you will.. .

Oh, and as I always now try to suggest to parents tossing around the idea of

homeschooling for what public schooling seems to be lacking, always be

homeschooling for what only homeschooling (you?) can provide (if not everything)

and keep you options open for any other schooling for what such other schooling

can provide that you can't or perhaps that would be better done by as much? Keep

you options open and don't be burying yourself in work in that respect, where

you realistically feel that you can't really or don't really want to be doing

everything, where that might not even be the more meaningful thing to be doing?

... .

There is no reason why you can't be doing homeschooling while you send your

child to a public school, is my way of taking the best of, " all " worlds, (of

such choice/s?) that my children would be as intelligent as that.. .

Glavic

Volunteer. For the truer leadership, (to as much?) in my view, for what that's

worth, of what all other leadership (and choice) would be worth, where it would

be so much (as so reasonable?) at All, of The choice/s there are, Thereof, of

Feeling as Understanding, that I'm not trying to make this a part of your

intuition as it is a part of mine.. .

Professional and political only in that respect? There I Go, Thereof, for All

there Is and could be, by as much, for those or that which would *need* it, that

any needs could be served, otherwise (that I would have any " use " for

politicians or professionals otherwise? .. .

Also consider that a prayer for you where I've invited/considered God to be a

part of It, (of as much) of such, Communication, and all that we could be by as

much.

Don't get hung up on language over that?!. (Please) Communication is *more* than

a language, (in serving as much, as can be served? toward our understanding more

for our selves, Thereof, of Communication is what it serves, Thereof) and what

my ABA is about, of The *primary* thing/s, Thereof.. .

*Peer/Volunteer* of sorts? that anything else would be so, meaningful.. .

Yeah, I figure some people are up to that (of my providing as much, as I do? as

I Feel I Do) and there is something for everyone in it in that respect of what

I'm about, (for Individuals, as such, of such!) with respect to *Communication*

in that respect of More, (choice/s? for such, Intelligence) that Communication

would be about anything less.. . (Which It isn't! I Feel as Understand

Oh, yeah, you can be sure the answer is in that (of what I Felt

Best wishes, Thereof

>

> I have a 6 year old daughter with autism. She is in a self contained ABA class

at a public school.I do not feel like

>

> she is making the expected progress there, she is learning but it's very slow.

I am planning on home schooling her

>

> and that very thought scraes me but I want to really consider and give it a

try.

>

> My biggest concern with home schooling or for that matter working with her is,

I DO NOT have instructional control

>

> on her, she just doesn't listen to me and work with me. To make her do a

little thing is a HUGE tantrum and a big

>

> fight.How do I start establishing instructional control with her? What do I

need to do and start? At school, they

>

> train me as to how to work on things with her, she does great when the

instructor is here but the minute they leave

>

> she just doesn't want to do that. She is NOT motivated with these tasks, the

problem though is there is NOTHING

>

> motivating for her except each junk food like cookies and candy which I can't

keep on feeding for the whole day.She

>

> tantrums to come in to the house and so I try to make the time with me very

enjoyable for her so that she will come

>

> inside the hosue nicely. If I get strict, I am very nervous that she will

tantrum for coming inside the house. Where

>

> do I start? I worked with several BCBAs but nobody had a solution wherein I

could just work with her and at the same

>

> have a decent relationship as a mom and daughter.

>

> My second concern is how do you maintain that discipline of working with child

6-8 hours a day and be motivated and

>

> dedicated at doing that?I work full time now, but I want to quit and work to

do this, but I am nervous that I might

>

> not do a good job.

>

> Any thoughts, experiences and advice is greatly appreciated.

>