Help!

[Guest guest]

Stick with it. My daughters measurements were 19mm at 7 months and we are now down to 13mm after 2 months her new head shape is absolutely amazing and so worth it and we still have 6 weeks left!! Can you have her were a hat until she gets use to something on her head? Did you try building up to wearing it all day? Is it fitting correctly? I am lucky in that my daughter took to it instantly- actually she gets mad when we take it off and starts looking for it on her head. Mom to Madison 9 1/2 months Severe Plagio- DOC 3/30/07jmandyo <jmandyo@...> wrote: I am looking for any advice I can get! We just got our 7 month old daughter's helmet on the 24th. She is fighting it tooth and nail. I am so stressed out, that I am not sure I made the right decision to get it. Her measurements are 18mm. Any suggestions?????

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[Guest guest]

Consistancy!  That is something we found.  When my dd didn't wear her band for a few days b/c of complications it was hard to get it back on her.  Also, I'm not sure what band you have but sdid you have a break-in period?  I think that helped us alot in the beginning. Keep it on her if it supposed to be on even if she is fighting it.  I know it's hard.  I've been there!  And then distract her - I remember needing to distract our dd sooooo much in the beginning.

HTH!!!

Jen and Luli - 17 mo.

Left Tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA

tallulah jayne

www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/

help!

I am looking for any advice I can get! We just got our 7 month old

daughter's helmet on the 24th. She is fighting it tooth and nail. I am

so stressed out, that I am not sure I made the right decision to get

it. Her measurements are 18mm. Any suggestions?????

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Hi,

I would say at 18 mm the band is not optional. Make sure the fit is

good, and keep trying. i think if you can get her to wear it some then

build up that is ok at first. make sure you keep her very cool, since

they tend to get too warm in the band at first. my daughter got hers

at this time last year and I put her in a onesie no socks for most of

the summer. at night a fan in the room helps a lot, or if you have A/C

put it a little lower.

Also when you put it on distract her with a favorite toy or activity

so maybe she'll forget. My daughter didn't mind it at all during the

day but took a while to adjust to sleeping in her band. it is really

worth it since i know we couldn't have gotten nearly the correction we

did without the band. if she's really fussing i would check with the

ortho about the fit. maybe it just isn't comfortable.

let us know how it goes.

-christine

sydney 16 mo starband grad

>

> I am looking for any advice I can get! We just got our 7 month old

> daughter's helmet on the 24th. She is fighting it tooth and nail. I am

> so stressed out, that I am not sure I made the right decision to get

> it. Her measurements are 18mm. Any suggestions?????

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for all the tips, we made it thru the night with it on! I am

feeling so much better about it. this support group is wonderful!

> >

> > I am looking for any advice I can get! We just got our 7 month

old

> > daughter's helmet on the 24th. She is fighting it tooth and nail.

I am

> > so stressed out, that I am not sure I made the right decision to

get

> > it. Her measurements are 18mm. Any suggestions?????

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am so happy to hear this. This is a great group (IMO). It helped me

so much when sydney was in her band last year.

take care -christine

sydney 16 mo starband grad

> > >

> > > I am looking for any advice I can get! We just got our 7 month

> old

> > > daughter's helmet on the 24th. She is fighting it tooth and nail.

> I am

> > > so stressed out, that I am not sure I made the right decision to

> get

> > > it. Her measurements are 18mm. Any suggestions?????

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It takes a little getting used to putting the band on/off. We had a

starband and one thing I learned it that you can really pull it open

before putting it on, don't worry about opening it too much. Also

putting your baby in a highchair or bumbo might keep them more

stationary. give them a toy the like or another distraction while

you'r fussing with his head. Go back to the ortho and have them show

you again and practice while you are there. After a day or two it

won't be a big deal.

Good luck & let us know how it goes.

-christine

sydney 17 mo starband grad

>

> My son got his helmet today and I am having a hard time getting it on

> properly. The ortho said that I would be able to feel how it should be

> placed on his head but I think that I am putting it on incorrectly. He

> SCREAMED this afternoon after I put it on. I realised that I had it

> rotated a little. Does it get easier? I find it so hard to put it on

> when he is wiggling and crying. I am thinking of returning to the

> ortho tomorrow to have her take a look and see if I have it on right.

> I am also wondering how long the red marks should stay. After 20

> minutes I could still see the marks. They had faded but did not go

> away completely. Is this normal???

>

> Thank you!

>

>

> Mark - 5 months old

> Helmet from local orthotics provider

>

[Guest guest]

- If you are unsure about ANYTHING then go back to the ortho.  Really make them show you over and over how to put on the band.  Redness should go away in about an hour.  If it stays longer then the band may need to be adjusted. 

It's hard at 1st becuase you are just not used to it - and neither is the baby!  It does get easier!!!!

 Jen and Luli - 18 mo.

Left Tort - Right Plagio - Hanger Band Grad - CA

tallulah jayne

www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/

Help!

My son got his helmet today and I am having a hard time getting it on

properly. The ortho said that I would be able to feel how it should be

placed on his head but I think that I am putting it on incorrectly. He

SCREAMED this afternoon after I put it on. I realised that I had it

rotated a little. Does it get easier? I find it so hard to put it on

when he is wiggling and crying. I am thinking of returning to the

ortho tomorrow to have her take a look and see if I have it on right.

I am also wondering how long the red marks should stay. After 20

minutes I could still see the marks. They had faded but did not go

away completely. Is this normal???

Thank you!

Mark - 5 months old

Helmet from local orthotics provider

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Hi - my orth said after an hour the red spots should go away. Also - try distraction with the tv - mine loves Baby Dev. Channel - works 99% of the time.

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[Guest guest]

I had to go back tot he ortho and have her show me the easiest way to take the nband and put it on. I did it several times in the office. Also, I would put my daughter in her highchair or saucer when putting her band on. She couldn't wiggle quite as much that way. PLease let us know how it goes.

Angie and Jenna

Help!

My son got his helmet today and I am having a hard time getting it on properly. The ortho said that I would be able to feel how it should be placed on his head but I think that I am putting it on incorrectly. He SCREAMED this afternoon after I put it on. I realised that I had it rotated a little. Does it get easier? I find it so hard to put it on when he is wiggling and crying. I am thinking of returning to the ortho tomorrow to have her take a look and see if I have it on right. I am also wondering how long the red marks should stay. After 20 minutes I could still see the marks. They had faded but did not go away completely. Is this normal???Thank you!Mark - 5 months oldHelmet from local orthotics provider

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

With the red spots, my son's never completely went away but they did

always fade. I would ask your ortho for clarification of what

is " okay. " My son never had a problem with skin breakdown or

anything and I did put the band back on right after they faded (not

them going away).

> >

> > My son got his helmet today and I am having a hard time getting

it on

> > properly. The ortho said that I would be able to feel how it

should be

> > placed on his head but I think that I am putting it on

incorrectly. He

> > SCREAMED this afternoon after I put it on. I realised that I

had it

> > rotated a little. Does it get easier? I find it so hard to put

it on

> > when he is wiggling and crying. I am thinking of returning to

the

> > ortho tomorrow to have her take a look and see if I have it on

right.

> > I am also wondering how long the red marks should stay. After

20

> > minutes I could still see the marks. They had faded but did not

go

> > away completely. Is this normal???

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> >

> > Mark - 5 months old

> > Helmet from local orthotics provider

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Hang in there, I promise it does get easier. My son screamed when he

first had it on, but I just kept distracting him and he got used to

it so quickly.

Some on my son's red marks lasted quite a while, but they always

faded around 30 minutes or so, if you have questions or concerns ask

your ortho--that is what they are there for and you will soon find a

comfort level on what is a concern and not. Once my son has a " true "

red mark and if your son gets one you will definitely know. It was

very, very red, apple red! Quite the differnce from the other red

marks that you can expect.

I am almost at the end of this helmet process and so many times I

truly wanted to throw in the towel. It is worth it and I do think it

is much harder on you than your son! Stay strong, it does go by

quickly!

Jocelyn

>

> My son got his helmet today and I am having a hard time getting it

on

> properly. The ortho said that I would be able to feel how it

should be

> placed on his head but I think that I am putting it on

incorrectly. He

> SCREAMED this afternoon after I put it on. I realised that I had

it

> rotated a little. Does it get easier? I find it so hard to put it

on

> when he is wiggling and crying. I am thinking of returning to the

> ortho tomorrow to have her take a look and see if I have it on

right.

> I am also wondering how long the red marks should stay. After 20

> minutes I could still see the marks. They had faded but did not go

> away completely. Is this normal???

>

> Thank you!

>

>

> Mark - 5 months old

> Helmet from local orthotics provider

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl # 2 ~

Hello ! You are having breast pain, that is a coverable diagnoses for exploratory and possible removal of cysts or tumors.

The complications of not having scar caps removed is.........continued and progressive illness. We have many girls that have had to have surgery a second time to just get the scar caps out.

All implants leach off flecks of silicone from the outter shell, and all silicone gel implants have gel bleed, much of this is all in the scar caps. One reason your body grows the scar caps is to protect you from the toxins or foreign bodies.

We had a gal that had saline implants, and continued to have problems with lymph nodes clogging up and getting infected, and when they were removed on subsequent surgeries, they had silicone in them............this proves that

the silicone shells break down and flow thru systems...........

Proper removal is best, for optimum result in healing.

Proper vs lift, it is a toss-up........I vote, proper ! as I

Have your best interest at hand..........

Blessings ~ DedeGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl #2,

Many women have had to go to a second surgeon to

fix or take out what the first doctor left,

thereby paying twice for a doctor. I highly

recommend you find a way to get to one of the recommended doctors.

Lynda

At 06:33 PM 8/30/2007, you wrote:

>Hi everyone,

>

>I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the

>implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she

>does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to her

>that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go

>ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of

>that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the removal

>and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't take

>out the scar tissue so she could have " something to work with for the

>lift " . Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote (affortable)

>since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.

>

>In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be

>difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see

>them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the

>medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an enourmous

>amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am also

>concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult. My

>pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?

>

>I also have another question....if I am not having any leaks or

>breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue

>removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?

>

>Thanks for your help ladies!

>Cheryl #2

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

Im sorry to hear about your consult today. It stinks when you get

your hopes up but then dont hear what you want. Only you can make

this decision but she doesnt sound too convincing to me. Dont make a

decision if you are desperate at this point becuase im sure if you

had complete confidence in this doctor you would not be questioning

her. There are no other surgeons around you that you can contact? I

dont like that fact that she said she does not remove the capsules

which leads me to believe she is one who does not believe in

illness.Sounds to me like she just agreed to the removal to humor you

but when you are on that table you will not be awake to make sure she

really does in fact do what she said she would. Patti had suggested

getting the procedure in writing before surgery and then requesting a

opt report which tells exactly what took place during the procedure.

If she does not remove the caspules you will know but at that point

it will be too late. Im not trying to bring you down but i just want

you to really think about this. I realize it s expensive but dont

bargain shop for a surgeon.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the

> implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she

> does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to

her

> that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go

> ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of

> that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the

removal

> and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't

take

> out the scar tissue so she could have " something to work with for

the

> lift " . Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote (affortable)

> since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.

>

> In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be

> difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see

> them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the

> medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an

enourmous

> amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am

also

> concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult.

My

> pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?

>

> I also have another question....if I am not having any leaks or

> breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue

> removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?

>

> Thanks for your help ladies!

> Cheryl #2

>

[Guest guest]

Ok at the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, i am horrible in

geography, but do live near San Fransisco or San Diego? I dont know

where Upland CA but all have doctors who come recommended. Let me

know if you want more info.

>

> Cheryl # 2 ~

> Hello ! You are having breast pain, that is a coverable

diagnoses for

> exploratory and possible removal of cysts or tumors.

> The complications of not having scar caps removed

is.........continued and

> progressive illness. We have many girls that have had to have

surgery a

> second time to just get the scar caps out.

> All implants leach off flecks of silicone from the outter shell,

and all

> silicone gel implants have gel bleed, much of this is all in the

scar caps. One

> reason your body grows the scar caps is to protect you from the

toxins or

> foreign bodies.

> We had a gal that had saline implants, and continued to have

problems with

> lymph nodes clogging up and getting infected, and when they were

removed on

> subsequent surgeries, they had silicone in them............this

proves that

> the silicone shells break down and flow thru systems...........

> Proper removal is best, for optimum result in healing.

> Proper vs lift, it is a toss-up........I vote, proper ! as I

> Have your best interest at hand..........

> Blessings ~ Dede

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Cherie, This doctor gives me a really bad feeling! . . . I don't think she really understood why you want your implants out at all! She may have "said" she did - but I don't believe her! Another test of what a doctor plans to do is to ask them how long the surgery will take . . . A good doctor will tell you that they won't know for sure until they get in there. . . A doctor planning to do it the wrong way will tell you it will be 1-2 hours. Dr. Kolb worked on one of our ladies for ten hours! Hugs, Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes I do live near San Francisco Do you know of a doctor?

> >

> > Cheryl # 2 ~

> > Hello ! You are having breast pain, that is a coverable

> diagnoses for

> > exploratory and possible removal of cysts or tumors.

> > The complications of not having scar caps removed

> is.........continued and

> > progressive illness. We have many girls that have had to have

> surgery a

> > second time to just get the scar caps out.

> > All implants leach off flecks of silicone from the outter shell,

> and all

> > silicone gel implants have gel bleed, much of this is all in the

> scar caps. One

> > reason your body grows the scar caps is to protect you from the

> toxins or

> > foreign bodies.

> > We had a gal that had saline implants, and continued to have

> problems with

> > lymph nodes clogging up and getting infected, and when they were

> removed on

> > subsequent surgeries, they had silicone in them............this

> proves that

> > the silicone shells break down and flow thru systems...........

> > Proper removal is best, for optimum result in healing.

> > Proper vs lift, it is a toss-up........I vote, proper ! as I

> > Have your best interest at hand..........

> > Blessings ~ Dede

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the

all-

> new AOL at

> > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Your right, the doctor told me that if she was going to remove the

scar tissue, it would take about 2 to 3 hrs. Thanks for the info!

Cherie

>

> Cherie,

>

> This doctor gives me a really bad feeling! . . .

>

> I don't think she really understood why you want your implants

out at all! She may have " said " she did - but I don't believe her!

>

> Another test of what a doctor plans to do is to ask them how long

the surgery will take . . . A good doctor will tell you that they

won't know for sure until they get in there. . . A doctor planning to

do it the wrong way will tell you it will be 1-2 hours.

>

> Dr. Kolb worked on one of our ladies for ten hours!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynda,

I have already decided that is what I am going to do. I am not going

to jepordize my health! Thanks for the reasurance!

Cherie/cheryl #2

>

> >Hi everyone,

> >

> >I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the

> >implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she

> >does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to her

> >that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go

> >ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of

> >that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the

removal

> >and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't

take

> >out the scar tissue so she could have " something to work with for

the

> >lift " . Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote (affortable)

> >since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.

> >

> >In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be

> >difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see

> >them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the

> >medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an

enourmous

> >amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am

also

> >concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult.

My

> >pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?

> >

> >I also have another question....if I am not having any leaks or

> >breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue

> >removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?

> >

> >Thanks for your help ladies!

> >Cheryl #2

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Just found this blog of yours, I guess we were on at the same time.

No...your not too bitchy...your just what I have needed! I like

straight forward and to the point! You are my angel of information

and giving me a direction to go. Just two days ago I was wondering

if my sickness just might be from my implants and now you and

everyone else in this group have given me my answers that I have been

praying for! Now that I have a direction......I'm on my way

girlfriend! Thank you!

God Bless

Cherie

>

> Cheryl #2,

>

> After meeting many of the ladies on this board who are still sick,

after explant, due to the fact the scar tissue/capsule were left

behind - I would RUN RUN RUN away from that doctor.

>

> Nan, who is a member here, was told by her doctors that he removed

the capsules/scar tissue. She later asked for the surgical report

and found out that he partially removed them!! She was so sick, even

after explant and could not get better. She went to Dr. Kolb who

removed lymph nodes where were full of silicone (mind you, she had

saline implants - but silicone shells). She has spent so much money

to get well - even explanted!!

>

> Sandy - just went to Dr. Kolb to have her capsules removed after

years of being explanted. She was still sick, not getting better.

>

> Dear Lea, who I am sure you have seen her e-mails is SOOOO sick

right now!! Guess what, she still has her capsules!

>

> To me, it is not worth it!! If you spend less money now, you'll

end up spending more later and you'll still be sick.

>

> I hope I don't sound bitchy but I hate that this has happened to so

many women on this board. There are photos of Sandy's capsules which

were left inside her. They don't go away! The just fester up. I am

certain they contain silicone because this is what was around the

salicone made shell of implants. It is so scary.

>

> I was broke too. I have been so sick. I had to take out credit

cards but I couldn't put a price on my health. I would lose my house

if I had too. Anything to get better.

>

> Hugs, Lynn

>

>

> Help!

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the

> implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she

> does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to her

> that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go

> ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of

> that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the

removal

> and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't

take

> out the scar tissue so she could have " something to work with for

the

> lift " . Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote (affortable)

> since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.

>

> In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be

> difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see

> them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the

> medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an

enourmous

> amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am

also

> concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult.

My

> pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?

>

> I also have another question.... if I am not having any leaks or

> breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue

> removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?

>

> Thanks for your help ladies!

> Cheryl #2

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

I don't post too much these days but I try to read most of the postings and noticed your dilemma. If it were me, I would find another surgeon, preferably a recommended one. Your implanting PS obviously can not be trusted. She doesn't believe in the importance of taking out the capsules and the comment she made about the needing the scar tissue for "something to work with for the lift" is pure BS. The scar tissue has NOTHING to do with the lift!

It's important to find someone who has had experience with the en bloc or capsulectomy procedure because is not as easy as just popping the capsule out and stitching you back up, which is what your PS is talking about. I know the money issue is a big one-- I'm still paying off the loan for my explant and lift with Ed Melmed in Dallas and it's been two years! But honey, it's the best moeny I ever spent. My implants and capsules are gone, the list looks fabulous, and my health improves more each day.

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, AAAAHHH! This is so typical of ignorant plastic surgeons. Something to work with for a lift, indeed. Pshaw! She is clueless! RUN!!! Yes, you will need to have all of the scar tissue removed--a total capsulectomy. This is especially true if you are having any symptoms at all. I will post the guidelines Dr. Feng uses, which we've posted often, in order for her NOT to remove all the scar tissue, below. To see what the risks are if you do not remove all of the scar tissue/capsule, please go to our links section and look for the file on explant. In there, you will see the links for the "complications from retained scar capsules" and similar links. There are several. There is also an explant file in the file section. If you cannot afford to get explanted right now, I would suggest getting creative in as many

ways as possible to find the money. Some women dig into retirement funds, max out credit cards, borrow against home equity, borrow from family/friends, breed dogs or other animals, sell off assets--there will be a way to do this...you just have to find it. I have yet to see a woman unable to have this surgery...they just work it out. You will. When it comes to health, you cannot afford not to do it. For the pain, please try coffee enemas. They are reputed to help with pain very effectively. If you do not have the directions from our recent posts, it is in the files section. They sound gross, but they work. Patty (Thanks very much to Dr. Lu-Feng of Cleveland Ohio for these remarks regarding capsule removal after saline implants)A biological capsule will form around any

implant. Any saline implant removal will require a total capsulectomy. Like anything else in life, there are few exceptions. Here are the few exceptions which would have to be fulfilled before I would entertain the possibility of not removing the saline capsule.(1) The capsule has to be tissue paper thin and without contracture.(2) The patient has to be without any local or systemic symptoms.(3) The saline implant has to be smooth shelled.(4) There has to be no previous history of gel filled implant insertion.All these conditions have to be fulfilled before I would consider not taking the saline capsule out. As you can see, few patients would fulfill these criteria. Invariably, I take out the entire capsule around saline implants.Drfeng@...cannst42 <cannst42@...> wrote: Hi everyone,I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to her that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the removal and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't take out the scar tissue so she could have "something to work with for the lift". Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote

(affortable)since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an enourmous amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am also concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult. My pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?I also have another question....if I am not having any leaks or breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?Thanks for your help ladies!Cheryl #2

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Patty,

Thanks so much for the insight! I am astonished on what I have

learned and I am going to do this removal right the first time! I

plan to max out some credits cards and save my life.

Thanks for your help!

Cherie

> Hi everyone,

>

> I saw my surgeon today. She understood why I wanted to have the

> implants removed and she would do it for me. She then said that she

> does not take out the scar tissue or use drains. I explained to her

> that I wanted the scar tissue removed. She said that she would go

> ahead and do it for me if that's what I want......but I am leary of

> that answer. We then discussed a lift at the same time as the

removal

> and she then said that if I am wanting a lift, that she wouldn't

take

> out the scar tissue so she could have " something to work with for

the

> lift " . Good lord! The office gave a pretty good quote (affortable)

> since I am already a patient but she won't remove the scar tissue.

>

> In order for me to go a one of your recommended Drs would be

> difficult. There is no Dr. near me and I would have to fly to see

> them and pay for accomations. I am already in debt with all the

> medical expenses I have now have got and I have took off an

enourmous

> amount of time off from work. My HMO will not pay for this. I am

also

> concerned about waiting months to just get a new patient consult.

My

> pain is getting worse. Any suggestions?

>

> I also have another question....if I am not having any leaks or

> breaks in the implants, do I still need to have all the scar tissue

> removed? What are the complications if it's not all removed?

>

> Thanks for your help ladies!

> Cheryl #2

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your

story.

> Play Sims Stories at Games.

>

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No Cherie, I don't think it's normal for Fungal Defense to cause severe back pain. Is there anything else that could be going on? . . . Strained back? . . . kidney problems . . . I can't recall anyone reporting severe back pain before. . . Stomach, yes! Are you drinking a lot of water? . . . Constipated . . . sitting or lying in a strained position? Hugs, Rogene

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Cherie,

I felt a little sick to my tummy when I first started the fungal defense but never had low back pain.

Lynn

Help!

Hi Everyone,I have stopped taking the Fungus Defense due to not doing well on it. Today I have severe lower back pain, I can hardly walk. Is this normal?Thanks!Cherie