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Low sodium is a red flag for adrenal issues. I know a lot

of people talk about adrenal issues on other networks, but in your

case I would bet on a dime that your cortisol levels are

out-of-whack. When was the last time you did either a timed

cortisol test or a saliva test?

Adrenal issues will totally affect the way your body is absorbing

thyroid meds.

Best--

Courtenay.

Tish if only

it were that simple. I have taken extra T4 with the Armour. My free

testing has always showed my T4 near the top of the range and the T3

has always been low. I do not convert at all, I don't believe. DId you

read the part about taking 1600 MG T4 only meds and sleeping all day?

That was during a time when I actually got fired from a job for being

late. I overslept constantly. Fell asleep at work, fell asleep with

clippers running in my hands clipping a dog! LOL I think I am close.

Maybe a Ferritin test will turn up something. The low sodium I have

had off and on for the past 3 years may be a clue to something, but

what causes low sodium?

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West

Virginia

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Low sodium is a red flag for adrenal issues. I know a lot

of people talk about adrenal issues on other networks, but in your

case I would bet on a dime that your cortisol levels are

out-of-whack. When was the last time you did either a timed

cortisol test or a saliva test?

Adrenal issues will totally affect the way your body is absorbing

thyroid meds.

Best--

Courtenay.

Tish if only

it were that simple. I have taken extra T4 with the Armour. My free

testing has always showed my T4 near the top of the range and the T3

has always been low. I do not convert at all, I don't believe. DId you

read the part about taking 1600 MG T4 only meds and sleeping all day?

That was during a time when I actually got fired from a job for being

late. I overslept constantly. Fell asleep at work, fell asleep with

clippers running in my hands clipping a dog! LOL I think I am close.

Maybe a Ferritin test will turn up something. The low sodium I have

had off and on for the past 3 years may be a clue to something, but

what causes low sodium?

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West

Virginia

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I have not had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these? I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo symptoms.

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I have not had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these? I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo symptoms.

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I have not had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these? I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo symptoms.

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If anything, you might want to just do a saliva test ($60,

online) to see what turns up. Messing with adrenal medications

was not a good idea for you, obviously. But, I really think this

might be the root of the problem.

There is another network on yahoo where one of the moderators is

constantly pushing adrenal supplements on people, which is fine except

the adrenals are not something to be played around with. I was

afraid of having exactly the kind of reaction you are describing.

I am so sorry you feel so bad this morning!

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

I have not

had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal

support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal

glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache

ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid

crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is

Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very

painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw

up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these?

I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal

support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in

shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo

symptoms.

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West

Virginia

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If anything, you might want to just do a saliva test ($60,

online) to see what turns up. Messing with adrenal medications

was not a good idea for you, obviously. But, I really think this

might be the root of the problem.

There is another network on yahoo where one of the moderators is

constantly pushing adrenal supplements on people, which is fine except

the adrenals are not something to be played around with. I was

afraid of having exactly the kind of reaction you are describing.

I am so sorry you feel so bad this morning!

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

I have not

had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal

support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal

glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache

ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid

crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is

Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very

painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw

up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these?

I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal

support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in

shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo

symptoms.

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West

Virginia

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If anything, you might want to just do a saliva test ($60,

online) to see what turns up. Messing with adrenal medications

was not a good idea for you, obviously. But, I really think this

might be the root of the problem.

There is another network on yahoo where one of the moderators is

constantly pushing adrenal supplements on people, which is fine except

the adrenals are not something to be played around with. I was

afraid of having exactly the kind of reaction you are describing.

I am so sorry you feel so bad this morning!

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

I have not

had cortisol tested. I have tried three different kinds of Adrenal

support wiht BAD things happening every time. I tried an Adrenal

glandular about 3 years ago, that did nothing but give me a stomache

ache, then I tried Hydrocortisone which precipitated my last thyroid

crash. Then just this morning i just got a new one to try. It is

Nutricology Adrenal Organic Glandular. I just got through with a very

painful hour & a half. Tried eating somehting and now just threw

up everything. Hard enough it gave me a nosebleed, Anyone want these?

I won't be taking any more. I don;t think I will try any more adrenal

support products. I take DHEA and I think that has kept my adrenals in

shape. I have NO symptoms of adrenal insufficiency and just hypo

symptoms.

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West

Virginia

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Thanks, Courtenay! I feel much better now that the offending substance is down the toilet! If anyone wants these it is a brand new bottle I just got them today 75 caps (-1 I took!) expiration 4/06 so they are fresh! Says 300 MG adrenal bovine tissue Cellulose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid. They cost me $11 I will sell for $5 plus a couple bucks ot ship. Anyone?

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Thanks, Courtenay! I feel much better now that the offending substance is down the toilet! If anyone wants these it is a brand new bottle I just got them today 75 caps (-1 I took!) expiration 4/06 so they are fresh! Says 300 MG adrenal bovine tissue Cellulose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid. They cost me $11 I will sell for $5 plus a couple bucks ot ship. Anyone?

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Thanks, Courtenay! I feel much better now that the offending substance is down the toilet! If anyone wants these it is a brand new bottle I just got them today 75 caps (-1 I took!) expiration 4/06 so they are fresh! Says 300 MG adrenal bovine tissue Cellulose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid. They cost me $11 I will sell for $5 plus a couple bucks ot ship. Anyone?

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>>Is it possible that your kitty needs adrenal support?<<

It is possible, but next to impossible to get a vet to check for it, and I wouldn't DARE give somehting like this to him after the reaction I just had. He couldn't tell me and would just get very ill!

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>>Is it possible that your kitty needs adrenal support?<<

It is possible, but next to impossible to get a vet to check for it, and I wouldn't DARE give somehting like this to him after the reaction I just had. He couldn't tell me and would just get very ill!

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>>Is it possible that your kitty needs adrenal support?<<

It is possible, but next to impossible to get a vet to check for it, and I wouldn't DARE give somehting like this to him after the reaction I just had. He couldn't tell me and would just get very ill!

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Question for all

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>

> Hello everyone,

> Have any of you ever heard that people with autoimmune disease have

> problems with blood vessels in your hands?

,

The doctor could have been talking about Reynaud's Syndrome. This is where

cold causes the blood vessels to contract in the fingers. Your fingers turn

white and blue and go numb. When the feeling comes back it can really hurt.

I've had Reynauds for about 10 years of my 13 years with Stills. I'm not

sure that everyone with an autoimmune disease would have it and I do know

people with Reynauds that don't have another disease.

Aleeta

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> The doctor could have been talking about Reynaud's Syndrome.

Hello Aleeta,

Yeah but not everyone has reynaud's. When I went in for my Humira

shot this morning I asked my rheumy's nurse to find out for me what

this guy was talking about. She is out of the office today sick, but

as soon as she gets back she will let me know.

The Rheumy my cousin saw is our newest rheumy here, and is my

rheumy's new partner. But I will get the answer I was looking for

from my doctor. This was just the first I have ever heard of such a

thing. To me it just doesn't sound right to me. and now I am

wondering if my cousin or my aunt didn't understand what he was

talking about.

Well when I find out the answer to my question I will let you all

know.

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, I just wanted to say that at times I have lots of pain in one of my hip replacements but when I saw the surgeon the x-rays looked really good so he felt it was muscle oriented. Melt

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From: But yet one more thing. My right hip, which is my oldest joint replacement, it will be 18 years since it was done in July. Well it has been giving out a lot over the last two months, and when it does give out I get a very sharp pain that goes through my hip.

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Hi I too don't have any problems with my blood vessels ""YET"" anyway.

Hugs; Ginger wrote:

Hello everyone,Have any of you ever heard that people with autoimmune disease have problems with blood vessels in your hands? I have never heard of this before. My cousin was told that today by our new rheumy we have here now. So acourse I get a call from my mom asking me about this. By the way it was told to me was that all people with autoimmune disease has this problem, I have two autoimmune diseases and as far as I know there is nothing wrong with the blood vessals in my hands.Now just a little update on myself. Well I thought I had escaped from going into a flare while I was off the Humira for those six weeks, I started it back up 2 weeks ago. But on sunday while out hunting my body decided it didn't like me once again. Since then over the last few days it has been getting worse and today it really hit me. My hands

are swollen and I haven't had trouble with them for over 10 years. Hopefully this will be a short lived flare. I am going in tomorrow two days early for my Humira shot.I went and saw the neuro surgeon yesterday. Even though my neck for sure shows signs of arthritis, specially between c1 to c3 he is just going to leave it alone. He doesn't want to take the risk of making my neck worse. He told me that there is nothing to worry about it right. So that is off the list to worry about.But yet one more thing. My right hip, which is my oldest joint replacement, it will be 18 years since it was done in July. Well it has been giving out a lot over the last two months, and when it does give out I get a very sharp pain that goes through my hip. I go and see my surgeon on the 22nd. I had ran into on the 2nd when I was trying to find the right place to vote at. Well I told him what was going on and that I would be coming to see him

soon, his reply was one of those not so good sighs.Well that is it for now. Will talk to u all soon. Until next time take care Visit the Still's Disease Message Boardhttp://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.htmlThe materials and information contained in this message are not intended to replace the services of a trained health professional or to be a substitute for medical advice of physicians and/or other health care professionals. The International Still's Disease Foundation is not engaged in rendering medical or professional medical services. You should consult your physician on specific medical questions, particularly in matters requiring diagnosis or medical attention. The International Still's Disease Foundation makes no representations or warranties with respect to any treatment, action, application, medication or preparation by any person

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