Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 No snow and ice here, but it is cold. After a last run to the grocery tomorrow, I'll be settled in for the next week or so. Buried in Snow and Ice? Travel plans cancelled? Oops, we don't travel well, but how goes it, those that are travelling? One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 where are you? To: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:45:07 PMSubject: Re: Winter Weather No snow and ice here, but it is cold. After a last run to the grocery tomorrow, I'll be settled in for the next week or so. In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, yia68jbyahoo (DOT) com writes: Buried in Snow and Ice? Travel plans cancelled? Oops, we don't travel well, but how goes it, those that are travelling? One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Southern Virginia here. Its a clear day today, first in over a week, but it is still cold. where are you?One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hi; there was a lovely crescent moon in the south sky just before sun rise today, (central north american prairies) renaissanzelady No snow and ice here, but it is cold. After a last run to the grocery tomorrow, I'll be settled in for the next week or so. In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, yia68jbyahoo (DOT) com writes: Buried in Snow and Ice? Travel plans cancelled? Oops, we don't travel well, but how goes it, those that are travelling? Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:04 PM 12/23/08, renaissanzelady wrote: > Hi; > there was a lovely crescent moon in the south sky just before sun > rise today, > (central north american prairies) > renaissanzelady Currently doing every hour on the hour driveway plow duty as it just seems to continue snowing. And snowing. And snowing. -- Mike In the end the journey only matters if you've helped someone along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 renaissanzelady wrote: " Hi; there was a lovely crescent moon in the south sky just before sun rise today (central north american prairies). " Even though I wasn't there to see it, I can imagine how beautiful it was and I wish I had been there so I could photograph it. I guess you and I are romantics at heart, renaissanzelady. Well, you and I and a few other people ... :-) Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Mike wrote: " Currently doing every hour on the hour driveway plow duty as it just seems to continue snowing. And snowing. And snowing. " I'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging, Mike. LOL! Suffice it to say that we are experiencing Snowmaggedon in southeastern Ontario these days. Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 > Mike wrote: " Currently doing every hour on the hour driveway plow duty > as it just seems to continue snowing. And snowing. And snowing. " > > I'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging, Mike. LOL! If my wife weren't at work today I'd have just let it take over, built a fire in the fireplace, and hid under blankets until it went away. ;-) > Suffice it to say that we are experiencing Snowmaggedon in > southeastern > Ontario these days. That word seems to have taken on a life of it's own. I've seen that and Snowpocalypse in more places than I can count the last couple of days. -- Mike In the end the journey only matters if you've helped someone along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Here in the normally-merely-wet-but-mild Pacific Northwest (Seattle area is where I'm at) it has been absolutely bizarre for this area. My friend and I have taken advantage (but not nearly enough, we decided after the trip I'm about to mention) of it to make a little money, because buses, trains and planes are all hosed for travel. There's at minimum a foot of combined wet snow and ice layers on the ground in the area (that's for the shallow stuff in this region right now!) and when you have a confluence of the factors of all the lovely hills, the fact that they use road turtles (reflectors that stick up above the surface of the road) narrow windy streets all over, almost no snow/ice removal equipment, and a general population that is incredibly clueless about how to drive in this stuff, along with high winds (parts of this area got 100+ mph gusts, and I'm surprised there weren't more widespread power outages: perhaps the December 2006 windstorm, combined with utilities stomping their foot down for trees this year has helped a lot) has made it insane for driving around here. I don't fear the weather and road conditions so much as I do the other drivers on the road, because they generally don't know what they're doing, their vehicles aren't as well-suited for snow and ice, and just because the driving conditions are much worse (I've driven in mostly white-out conditions < 48 hours ago) doesn't mean they actually do such useful things as use turn signals, or even bother looking out when changing lanes (wherever they are!) or things like that. My friend and I put an ad on Craig's List for ride share, and starting about 12:30 a.m. we drove a woman from Shoreline, WA to West Linn, OR, and unfortunately, we didn't have any passengers we could take on the way back. We drove my Subaru I got this summer, which handles it very well, but even so, my friend drove us on the way there, and I drove the way back, and he got a little over confident about passing someone in the middle of I-5 that randomly decided to wander over to the right side, forcing us off into about 2 feet deep of dense plowed snow, which took us about 20 minutes to dig out of, with my short handled square point shovel I had in the trunk. I still have to laugh at him (He's a native of this area, and I grew up in Michigan). We concluded after we got back home about 8:20 a.m. that we should have charged triple the price we did, due to all the factors of time, risk, supply and demand, etc. (It's not like people could actually get from Seattle to anywhere in Oregon in any other way, and freezing rain on top of lots of existing snow is fun). I still have never driven a vehicle with chains on, or put them on: where I grew up and lived until 2005, chains and studded tires are illegal because they tear up the roads so badly. Around the Portland area, the sign stated chains are required for all vehicles (not sure how absolute that is: in the mountain passes in Washington, AWD and 4WD vehicles (I think the latter) are exempt, as long as they have decent traction tires) so I don't know what the chances are we'd get ticketed. Of course, that's all assuming that the police on the roads weren't too busy helping spun-out motorists It was funny, late Sunday night/Monday morning, to drive through downtown Seattle, see closed off streets, and large numbers of people sledding and skiing down the streets, having snowball fights, etc. which, other than perhaps cars to run into, make excellent sledding hills, and they even have street lights on all the time For those that have never visited the Seattle area, think of the hilliness factor you see depicted on TV shows and movies for San Francisco, but with a large number of evergreens, and no palm trees Now, I need to find a good place in the area to go do donuts... > > > > Total dilemma over this one. > > > > Good to have a refuge from unsympathetic families. If you are going > to > > be in an institution at all, good to have a specialised place > separate > > to NT kids' institutions. But who is going to decide if a family who > > are sympatethetic, where the child is just not delivering on school > > targets set by NTs, is not coping? Can these institutions be used as > a > > threat to shove parents around? > > > I am unsure what your take on this is but " institutions are used as a > threat " to push parents around. There are so many issues that make it > difficult for a chils to learn and lots of supports that must be in > place that are from school to home and back. > > Schools have to work with families and families with schools. > Families need to be on board and directed in effective supports for > children. Literally an environment and lifestle need to be adopted. > I am not talking about ABA, I am talking about acceptance, but what > happens is instead of thinking in terms of needs and supports it comes > to money Namely who pays for what and if they can shift it to someone > else. > > Some parents go in circles trying to find a program that works > Ratio of children per class, cirriculum that works for a child; math > and reading programs that capture a child and engage them to learn. > > Too many times a school wants to leave a child delayed because they get > money for that and also teaching so that a child standardizes is costly > and they look to offset costs. They end up playing round Robin with > parents making them feel guilty for not (anything, everything) > > instead of coming up with ways to teach the child in front of them > they: place blame, talk about disability, cures etc, etc > > institutions can be a haven for some and a hell for others. If you > have a supportive family that is the best place, if your family is full > of monsters than another place is better, but those places represent a > loss of choices. > Ranging from what you eat to when how often, what you wear, who washes > it, buys it , picks it out ETC. It is a nursing home for displaced > children, and it always makes me sad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Mike wrote: " ... <snip> ... [snowmaggedon] seems to have taken on a life of it's own. I've seen that and Snowpocalypse in more places than I can count the last couple of days ... <snip> ... " It's the descriptor the media is using up here and interestingly enough, because we are getting far more snow than usual and we've broken some major records for cold weather in the past couple of weeks alone, it's the word they feel is most appropriate for describing this spell of winterage. Now at this point in time, I much prefer the easy-to-remember terms like %$#)(%*$#(%^ cold but it's just not appropriate to use that sort of language so the P.C. term is inserted instead. The next time I use the word Snowmaggedon, feel free to insert the more apt term ... just don't let anyone hear you saying or thinking it. LOL! Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 renaissanzelady wrote: " there was a lovely crescent moon in the south sky just before sun rise today, (central north american prairies) " VISIGOTH wrote: " No snow and ice here, but it is cold. After a last run to the grocery tomorrow, I'll be settled in for the next week or so. " yia68jbyahoo (DOT) com wrote: " Buried in Snow and Ice? Travel plans cancelled? Oops, we don't travel well, but how goes it, those that are travelling? " writes: We've got a foot and a half of snow on the ground in Chicago, and counting. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 " I drove the way back, and he got a little over confident about passing someone in the middle of I-5 that randomly decided to wander over to the right side, forcing us off into about 2 feet deep of dense plowed snow, which took us about 20 minutes to dig out of, with my short handled square point shovel I had in the trunk. " I'm thankful you're safe Strict. Adminsitrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 " Currently doing every hour on the hour driveway plow duty > as it just seems to continue snowing. And snowing. And snowing. " > > I'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging, Mike. LOL! > > Suffice it to say that we are experiencing Snowmaggedon in southeastern > Ontario these days. > > Raven > It's comparable to Buffalo, NY or SE Ontario, but unexpected and unprepared, whining and complaining. No personal snowblowers, no plows on our lawn tractors ( if we could find them) , only skiers and Mountain dwellers own chains or studded tires. Those silly 20's with Mud trucks, they alone are getting around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 yia68jb wrote: " ... <snip> ... only skiers and Mountain dwellers own chains or studded tires ... <snip> ... " Hmmmm, I don't own any skies so that must mean I am a mountain dweller. Interesting thought especially since I have spent so much of my adult life living on the flat prairies before moving back to the 'mountains' of Ontario. LOL! Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Out of context. The discussion was NW Sound , Valley dwellers are normally semi-tropical. 3", not over 3' is the worst. Not even compared to any mountains or high prairies. Notice the "snip"s . To: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:04:14 PMSubject: Re: Winter Weather yia68jb wrote: " ... <snip> ... only skiers and Mountain dwellers own chains or studded tires ... <snip> ... "Hmmmm, I don't own any skies so that must mean I am a mountain dweller. Interesting thought especially since I have spent so much of my adult life living on the flat prairies before moving back to the 'mountains' of Ontario. LOL!Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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