Re: Parents 'teaching children themselves to avoid bullies'

[Guest guest]

I've read many stories about many schools that are extremely dangerous and the students out of control, especially if gangs are involved. The public schools in the city are so bad, that the high school has police officers there full time. That's just the ones who stay in school too, not counting the ones who drop out or end up in the virtual prison for the "special students." No, can't have honors programs anymore but they need those prison schools.

Heck, one of the middle class schools around here, a public school, isn't as violent, but it is practically a cat house. A friend of mine was accused of molesting a kid at that school. However, during the investigation, it turned out that boy was having regular sexual encounters with a girl in the boy's (yes boy's) bathroom. That was such a regular occurrence, young teen girls putting out in the boy's bathroom, that none of them even thought about using the toilet with people having sex all around. The school had to have known about this but did nothing about it. Not sure if it has been dealt with or not, though probably not. Lots of bullying also went on as well. (My friend was found not guilty first because he didn't do anything wrong, but also other shady circumstances by the complainants.)

It is little wonder parents have lost faith in the public schools. Most of them only give about a 6th grade education anyway. Lots of empty self-esteem making unprepared kids going into the workplace unqualified but demanding high salaries. Private schools aren't always an option because they are relatively rare and comparatively expensive. Homeschooling is an option, and if people have pull it off, then good for them.

In a message dated 12/1/2008 2:37:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

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[Guest guest]

There is exactly one simple solution to avoiding bullies, and it is

absolute:

Live by yourself away from every other human on earth, with no

contact, and no outsiders that know you even exist, or that the land

you're on even exists. Well, it might work...

It's clear to me that the people that presume to teach kids (or

others) to avoid bullies don't understand the simple observation that

bullies go out of their way to seek out victims, and if they can't

find someone that stands out to pick on, they'll pick someone at

random, assuming they don't believe that the person (or people) that

they pick on can beat the crap out of them, and even then, that's no

guarantee: if they think someone they want to bully can beat the crap

out of them, that's when they get others in a gang to assist them.

>

>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/primaryeducation/3539397/Parents-

> teaching-children-themselves-to-avoid-bullies.html

>

> Parents 'teaching children themselves to avoid bullies'

>

> Thousands of parents are educating children at home because of a

> breakdown in classroom discipline, figures suggest.

>

> By Graeme Paton, Education Editor

> Last Updated: 3:36PM GMT 01 Dec 2008

>

> A survey of local authorities in England found bullying was among

the

> most common reasons for parents taking their children out of

school.

>

> Research showed more than 17,000 school age children were now

taught

> at home.

>

> It suggested as many as one-in-seven of those were pulled out

because

> parents feared sons and daughters were threatened by other

children.

>

> Ann Newstead, a mother-of-four and spokeswoman for Education

> Otherwise, a support group, removed seven-year-old son from

> primary school after he was bullied.

>

> She said: " We found out he had Asperger's Syndrome which meant that

> his behaviour was quirky enough that he stood out from the rest of

> the children.

>

> " They picked up on it and they would provoke him to have angry

> outbursts. They took advantage of his good nature and he would come

> home with his clothes cut and torn.

>

> " One girl smashed his head into a water fountain, knocking out his

> front tooth. People don't seem to realise that it's happening at

> primary, not just secondary schools. "

>

> Some 150 local authorities were surveyed under the Freedom of

> Information Act.

>

> Figures showed 11,091 secondary-age pupils and 6,229 children aged

> five to 11 were educated at home last year.

>

> Only 58 councils held data related to the reason for pulling sons

and

> daughters out of school.

>

> It revealed 1,038 were removed because of bullying - but figures

> extrapolated for every council would have been as high as 2,684.

>

> Other reasons for children to be taught at home included parental

> preference and medical problems.

>

> Kent Council revealed it had 148 secondary and 47 primary school

> pupils educated at home because of bullying problems. Lincolnshire

> had the second highest figure with 46 and 13 respectively.

>

> Birmingham City Council reported a total of 51 pupils who quit

> mainstream education because they were bullied.

>

> Haringey Council - at the centre of the Baby P child abuse scandal -

> logged 25 " bullied " pupils who were educated at home.

>

> A spokesman said: " However, on investigation it was not possible to

> substantiate that bullying had actually taken place as there had

been

> no complaint made to the school prior to leaving to home educate.

>

> " Except in one incidence where the matter had been fully

investigated

> but the parent was not satisfied with the outcome even when it had

> been through the formal school and local authority complaints

> procedure. "

>

> By law, parents who take their children out of school must ensure

> their child gets a " suitable " education according to the " age,

> aptitude and ability " of the child.

>

> But there are no legal requirements for them to tell councils why

> they are withdrawing their son or daughter from school.

>

[Guest guest]

wrote: " ... <snip> ... It is little wonder parents have lost

faith in the public schools. Most of them only give about a 6th grade

education anyway. Lots of empty self-esteem making unprepared kids

going into the workplace unqualified but demanding high salaries ...

<snip> ... "

The sense of entitlement that goes along with these people is

unbelievable and appalling! The attitude that the world OWES them

floors me and a few others.

What's worse though, is that the parents oftentimes are as bad, if

not worse, than the children who are demanding that they receive

something for nothing or next to nothing.

Although schools of yesteryear had their flaws, suffice it to say

that you knew when you got to high school that you weren't going to

get something just because. You knew you were going to have to work

for it. The only decision that had to be made after that was if you

were going to work at it as a law abiding citizen or work at it as a

successful criminal.

Now, I'm not advocating a life of crime. What I'm saying is that at

least criminals in previous generations had an albeit odd work ethic.

The least 2 generations of humans beings believe in welfare and bail

outs and such instead of hard work, common sense, accountability and

responsible behaviour.

Raven