Re: (International Herald Tribune) Panel urges creation of genocide alert system

[Guest guest]

The question I have is, will the new administration be willing to stay the course when genocide comes into play, or will they pull a Clinton.Perhaps something that may help is a restructuring of the UN, and it's relation with the ICJ. The Security Council (UNSC) could be reorganized so that vetoes require two nations, instead of just one. Also, in events of genocide, the UN General Assembly (UNGA) or UNSC could declare that a state of genocide exists in a certain country, triggering an immediate, complete embargo except for humanitarian aid. That in turn will allow a small special ops unit backed by a mini-air force and navy of sorts to serve indictments on charges of war crimes/crimes against humanity on behalf of the ICJ when requested.

[Guest guest]

> The question I have is, will the new administration be willing to

> stay the course when genocide comes into play, or will they pull a

> Clinton.

I think the problem is that we're already in two conflicts and

dealing with places like Darfur would put us in a third. Sad to say

but we can't afford that as a country right now. We're held together

by band-aids in my opinion.

> Perhaps something that may help is a restructuring of the UN, and

> it's relation with the ICJ. The Security Council (UNSC) could be

> reorganized so that vetoes require two nations, instead of just

> one. Also, in events of genocide, the UN General Assembly (UNGA) or

> UNSC could declare that a state of genocide exists in a certain

> country, triggering an immediate, complete embargo except for

> humanitarian aid. That in turn will allow a small special ops unit

> backed by a mini-air force and navy of sorts to serve indictments

> on charges of war crimes/crimes against humanity on behalf of the

> ICJ when requested.

I like the way you think but I doubt it would ever happen. For

instance I don't know what the requirements are to change the UNSC

but it's likely to be unanimous and thus it will likely never be

changed.

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Mike

In the end the journey only matters if you've helped someone along

the way.

[Guest guest]

>> Perhaps something that may help is a restructuring of the UN, and

>> it's relation with the ICJ. The Security Council (UNSC) could be

>> reorganized so that vetoes require two nations, instead of just

>> one. Also, in events of genocide, the UN General Assembly (UNGA) or

>> UNSC could declare that a state of genocide exists in a certain

>> country, triggering an immediate, complete embargo except for

>> humanitarian aid. That in turn will allow a small special ops unit

>> backed by a mini-air force and navy of sorts to serve indictments

>> on charges of war crimes/crimes against humanity on behalf of the

>> ICJ when requested.

>

> I like the way you think but I doubt it would ever happen. For

> instance I don't know what the requirements are to change the UNSC

> but it's likely to be unanimous and thus it will likely never be

> changed.

My apologies - it _is_ possible but would require a 2/3rds majority:

" Any proposal to modify the organization of the Security Council

would require the approval of two-thirds of the United Nations

General Assembly (192 member countries as of 2007). "

From: http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/

securitycouncil.htm

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Mike

In the end the journey only matters if you've helped someone along

the way.

[Guest guest]

" The question I have is, will the new administration be willing to

stay the course when genocide comes into play, or will they pull a

Clinton.

" Perhaps something that may help is a restructuring of the UN, and

it's relation with the ICJ. The Security Council (UNSC) could be

reorganized so that vetoes require two nations, instead of just one.

Also, in events of genocide, the UN General Assembly (UNGA) or UNSC

could declare that a state of genocide exists in a certain country,

triggering an immediate, complete embargo except for humanitarian

aid. That in turn will allow a small special ops unit backed by a

mini-air force and navy of sorts to serve indictments on charges of

war crimes/crimes against humanity on behalf of the ICJ when

requested. "

No system is needed at all. When a bunch of people start killing

other people en-masse, that's genocide. Weapons flooding into a

country is an indicator of genocide to come.

This doesn't take a panel or an organization to figure out. It takes

common sense.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

No, the concept is to predict where a genocide will occur and then react preemptively.

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[Guest guest]

" No, the concept is to predict where a genocide will occur and then

react preemptively. "

Again, you don't need a bunch of people to figure it out. All you need

to do is use common sense. Wthnic rivalries exist all over the world.

Genocide most often flares up in those spots. And if the pattern of pre-

genocide is universal, which it pretty much is, what more is there to

know?

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" Yes, but the trick is figuring out who, when, where, and by what means

that is tricky. "

It's NOT tricky.

Think about your own circulation in the world and the prejudices

against you. Can't you, by this time in your life, tell when someone is

harboring some kind of resentment towards you, and can't you build a

general type of profile about them?

While stereotypes are dangerous, actuarial statistics do not lie. As

much as we hate to admit it, people CAN be profiled and those profiles

are almost always right, and funnily enough, many times the statistics

are in agreement with personal perceptions.

The same can be done with countries and nations.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

..__,_W

When the whole book is highlighted, it's a mite bit difficult to focus, especially with all the data. It's easy to see that a bridge has failed and buckled into the river, but it's harder to see the failure starting. The point is that the group is responsible for gathering information in real time, allowing more time to react, and more options.

As for knowing the prejudices against me, I am aware of them, but prejudices occasionally come from unexpected sources.