Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 tallen2_34, I've only taken Valium once...two years ago my dermatologist wanted to remove squamous/basal cell carcinoma from my ear. He Rx me Valium and told me to take 5 mg an hour before my scheduled appt. I took tablet after calling taxi...by time I got to office....I was so relaxed; they could have taken my whole ear off. OTC Valerian root (VR) is so innocuous. When I decided to try VR I went out and bought 4-5 different brands to evaluate: Nature's Resource (NR), etc....I didn't get past NR as combined with benadryl it worked so well for me and NR is relatively inexpensive: $4.99 for bottle of 100 whole herb capsules or 60 standardized extract and Walgreen's puts there entire line of NR on sale 5-x/yr...Buy one/get one free. I seem to absorb VR very fast through my gut, for when I supplement with one or more capsules at various piss calls, I'm back asleep fast; however taking VR 1-2 hours before bedtime...I don't fall asleep until I'm ready to. Good luck, Just my experiences.... OR eon Re: Sleep disorder Thanks for the input, Oreon Last night was the first night I was on 5g of Androgel (from 10g) and I had a Restoril pill and a melantonin. I did get 5 hours of sleep, but woke up at 4:30. I guess that is better than the nights before. I was told that too much DHT may overstimulate the Central Nervous System. That is a good idea to keep Valarian by the bed, if I wake up. I am always afraid that if I take something during the night I will be groggy the next day. But Valarian may be mild enough for that not to occur. > Recently I've seen several posts about sleep disorders and TRT. > > For years I've had sleep disorder Tylenol PM worked very well for me but the > negative a aspect was acetaminophen as an active ingredient and according to > Shipppen, page, 211, this Is one on a list of drugs that: > > " inhibit the P450 phase I system, resulting in increased estrogen > levels " . > > I tried Sonata and Ambien without acceptable affects for me. > > > Tylenol's Simply Sleep " worked well...this contains benadryl, 25 mg/each > caplet. They are a little pricey! > > I buy Member's Mark brand benadryl at Sam's Club a bottle of 400 capsules > for $3.22. I've bought Wal-Mart's Equate brand but it doesn't come in bulk > so a little more expensive. > > I buy Nature's Resources Valerian capsules from Walgreen's...standardized > extract and whole herb. A few times /year Walgreen's puts their entire line > of Nature's Resource supplements on sale, buy one and get one free. I stock > up then Even not on sale I found Walgreen's prices for Valerian less > expensive than Kroger's. > > My Regimen: each night one-two hours before I intend going to bed, I take > two benadryl caplets, a Valerian standardized extract and a whole herb > capsules. Going to sleep is non issue. On bedside table I put out several > Valerian whole herb capsules....I may take one or more at piss calls. > > I sleep very well and inexpensively. > > Just my experiences... > > OR eon > GayMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 hi Hillen, Some practical thing to do which may help your insomnia would be buying a Camembert or Brie cheese made from raw milk accompanied by raw milk kefir or berries or raw honey or a blend of citrus juice/carrot juice 1:1. The cheese has to be ripe and creamy looking as cheese in the step two in the link I am sending you. I recommend you do not refrigerate it, just keep it in a fresh and clean place (25 celsius). Refrigeration kills the charm of the cheese, unless you do not plan to eat it in days. Camembert cheese is a mineral and enzyme rich food. The minerals come from the milk solids being concentrated 10 times to make this cheese and the enzymes from the maduration time aprox 4 weeks. This blend; bacteria, enzymes and minerals, in my opinion, are a insomnia remedy. 200 to 300 grams at evening may do the effect. 100 might! By the way, only raw milk cheeses can receive the fromage fermier AOC label which is the highest quality label for a cheese in France. http://www.deliaonline.com/cookeryschool/howto/how_0000000004.asp -------- I had an intense detoxifying episode lasting one year when I started a powerful detoxifying and healing diet consisting of living spirulina, raw meat, raw dairy, raw eggs and raw liver and living fermented stuff, I could not sleep during the night for the entire year, every day. Instead, I used to sleep during the morning after six a.m. to noon, every day, incredible! Also, I have been suffering from chronic insomnia since childhood. Vinny Pinto*** recommend me ingesting calcium and magnesium supplements and trace minerals for my insomnia. His recommendation was vague since he did not detailed which supplements and in which way I should take them****. So I had to experiment with myself. I started with coral calcium, followed by some kind of calcium clays, followed by chewable calcium carbonate and clays. All worked relieving my long lasting insomnia, I haven't had that crazy insomnia ever since. However, the high dose of this mineral supplements can easily lead to constipation in a lot of people like myself, that is why is highly recommended not to follow this mineral supplementation unless it is accompanied by long fermented foods or beverages. *** someone I would recommend for these cases in which one cannot go to the medical doctor in town nor go to visit grandma , Vinny consults by telephone or even e-mail. He come up with this powerful relieve for insomnia for me. **** he will surely give you more details for your specific case if you consult him. I did not consult him, that tip was just his commentary. I have no interest in recommending Vinny, he is not my relative nor my friend. In my opinion, he has a lot of knowledge in these issues dealing with healing realm, the energy realm, etc, specially insomnia, healing, detoxing, EMF, and energies. Also in my opinion, he is " highly " spiritually " advanced " I recommend him because I intuit he could help you, though no guarantees. The long fermented stuff is the problem. It is hard finding in the market those foods. All the fermented stuff I have used for this issue are homemade, and their fermentation times start at 9 days to one month or even more. And yet, starting good probiotic supplements might cause even more or even tougher cleansing/detox reactions. Flavio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 I have been experiencing jerking while asleep. I will wake myself or my husband during these episodes. At times it happens to my legs then it will switch to my upper extremities. I just spent three days in the hospital being tested for seizures. My reults were negative. Now the neuorologist wants me to do a sleep study. Has anyone else experienced this? I need some help with this. I am exhausted the following day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Hi , I too have twitching. My husband says my feet and lower legs twitch every 1-2 seconds, constantly. He frequently massages my feet and the twitching tells him when I've fallen asleep! The sleep study is a great idea. I've done it as well. They put sensors on your legs, so any leg movement will be recorded and your doctor can diagnose and discuss the results with you. If you are exhausted the next day, the sleep study will help them identify exactly why and then offer help to you. As a sidenote, many with CMT have Restless Leg Syndrome. I've not been diagnosed with this, but I've heard others mention that there are medications that can help. There is also a homepathic remedy of putting a bar of Dove soap under your sheets! It calms the legs. I'm not sure how it works, but those who use it swear by it. It's certainly an inexpensive thing to try. Who knows, it may help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Correction: The recommended soap is Ivory (not Dove or any deodorant soap). It's placed between the bottom sheet and the mattress at the foot of the bed. A second bar may be used up by the pillow. Needs to be changed every 3-4 months. I have not tried it, just heard of others doing it. Example... http://www.helpful-health-solutions.com/restlesslegsyndrome.html WHAT IS RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: Restless Leg Syndrome is a neurological disorder typically described by complaints of unpleasant sensations in the legs and an uncontrollable urge to move them for relief. Symptons include sensations such as burning, creepy-crawly, prickly, tingling, twitching, tugging and feeling like insects are crawling inside the legs. Symptoms worsen at night, especially when one is trying to rest or sleep. Repetitive jerking of the legs during sleep or sitting for extended periods of time. Symptoms get better when moving the legs. CAUSES OF RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: There is not a single cause that has been identified yet. These are the current believed causes; Family history accounts for approximately 50 percent of restless leg syndrome, suggesting a genetic form of the disorder. People with low iron levels, anemia. Correcting these levels, patients may see a reduction in symptons. Low levels of vitamin B. Chronic diseases such as Parkinson's, kidney failure, peripheral neuropath, and diabetes are also associated with Restless Leg Syndrome. Certain pergnant women experience Restless Leg Syndrome in their last trimester. In most cases these symptons disappear after delivery. Too muc caffeine, tobacco, or alcohol may trigger symptons. DIAGNOSING RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: Visit your physician explaining your symptons. Your physician should review your medical history, noting if your family has a history of having Restless Leg Syndrome. A full physical exam should be your next step. Have your iron and vitamin B levels checked. An overnight stay at a sleep study lab can yield valuable information. KIDS GROWING PAINS OR RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: There are a growing number of children being diagnosed with restless leg syndrome. Most children complain about painful legs at night which most parents dismiss as growing pains, but in fact could be restless leg syndrome. Some children can not sit still during the day which physicians' diagnose as hyperactivity when in reality could be restless leg syndrome. Some studies suggest that an iron deficiency in these children is the cause. Adding a natural iron supplement and some lifestyle changes such as limited caffeine and simple sugars might help also. restless leg syndrome remedies There are several types of remedies for restless leg syndrome. MY FAVORITE AND CHEAP REMEDY FOR RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME: My simple and favor one is a bar of Ivory soap tucked until the sheets at the foot of your bed. Yes, that right, just a simple bar of soap will do the trick. I had read about this trick years ago and told a couple friends with Restless Leg Syndrome about it. They tried it and are very happy with their results. I do not have Restless Leg Syndrome - I have nerve damge to the legs and arms, but I decided to try this bar of soap trick to see if it would help with the pain. After about 3 or 4 nights I noticed I could lay in bed and sleep, actually sleep without pain. I put one bar of soap at the foot of my bed, down in the corner so I don't hit it and the other one under my pillow in the corner. After approximately 3 to 4 months, you may notice some of the pain returning, simply replace the bar of soap and you will be pain free again. This is the cheapest treatment that I know of. Give it a try, you will be amazed. If you have a child with growing pains, try the bar of soap until their sheets and see if the complains stop, hopefully they will. There are other lifestyle changes that you can do to help; Decreased use of caffeine, tobacco, alcohol and chcolate. Some physicians suggest taking iron, foliate, and magnesium to correct any deficiencies in the body. Taking a hot bat, or putting an ice pack or heating pad can relieve some of the symptons. Having your legs massaged. Regular moderate exercise such as walking every day. Practicing yoga can help with your flexibility and cirulation. Deep breating exercises can also help with ciruclation HERBAL REMEDIES: Calcium - Builds and maintains bones and teeth. Helps regulate heart rhythm, promotes restfull sleep and helps maintain proper nerve and muscle function, along with maintaining normal blood pressure. Chamomile - Contains apigenin which is responsible for the calming anti-anxiety effect. Magnesium - Regulates the heart by maintaining normal heart rhythm, converts blood sugar into energy, and promotes deep sleep. Melatonin - A hormone produced by humans in the pineal gland. It synchronizes daily and seasonal rhythms including the sleep wake cycle. Melatonin has been found to alleviate sleep disorders and boost the immune system. Niacin - Has shown sleep and relaxation benefits in scientific studies. Valerian - Used for thousands of years as a tranquilizer and sedative for disorders such as restlessness, anxiety, has amino acid to help your leg muscles relax. PRESCRIPTION MEDICINES: Most physicians suggest a variety of medications such as dopaminergics, opioids, or benzodiazepines. Some side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, tremors, back pain, dry mouth constipation or an upset stomach. Check with your physician to see if these types of medications will work for you. The most recognized prescription drug for Restless Leg Syndrome is Requip. This medication does work well for most people and should be discussed with your physician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Hello , You must have a great husband! How many husbands would massage their wives feet until they fall asleep? Not many... Does he have a brother? LOL Have a great day! Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks ...I'll check out match.com ;-) Enjoy the day! Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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