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strict wrote: " ... <snip> ... For all this holier-than-thou preaching

about various things that go on in this mailing list, there's an

incredible lack of holistic thinking: it's true, the various companies

have managed to get into a big nasty bind, largely of their own making,

though not entirely, because it took the companies as management,

mismanagement, and unions, to get it there, and the liquidity crunch is

the straw that broke the camel's back. What neither you nor Tom care to

see is that despite all the negatives (and remember, once again, if you

two are capable of it, but it doesn't seem like it) that the auto

companies are asking for ****LOANS**** which are being evaluated on

business terms for whether or not they can pay them back, and not pure

****BAILOUT**** like the cursed $700+ billion TARP which was forced on

taxpayers with no accountability. The reality is should the big 3 go

under, everyone in the US is going to be hurting, including the locally-

situated foreign car name plate manufacturers, because of how things

are all tied together ... <snip> ... "

In not bailing the car manufacturers out -- even if you want to call it

a ***LOAN*** -- it forces the Big 3 to become accountable. This means

people like the CEO and 18 executives of GM will have to learn to live

without their outrageous millions in stock and bonuses in order to see

GM continue.

And taxpayers will be forced to learn to live within their means rather

than plunge themselves into debt they cannot handle in good times as

well as in bad.

Nice personal attack in this portion of your reply, strict. ;-)

Raven

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