Re: Ozone Sauna/ Dr.Bocci's New Book Info...

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Dear Jeff & Group:

What may be of interest to some here is Dr.Bocci's new book which is

available from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1402005881/qid=1040617007/sr=1-1/r\

ef=sr_1_1/102-7383212-3228962?v=glance & s=books

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1402005881/qid=1040617007/sr=1-1/\

ref=sr_1_1/102-7383212-3228962?v=glance & s=books>

" OXYGEN-OZONE THERAPY: A CRITICAL EVALUATION "

<http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1402005881.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg>

Book Info

Univ. of Siena, Italy. Explains the fundamental basis of ozonetherapy. For

scientists, clinicians, and patients. Argues that scientists an clinicians

should abandon

their prejudice and consider the profound difference between the endogenous

oxidative stress and teh new concept of ozone therapeutic 'shock.'

This is a professional text but is excellent for the more academically

minded. I can get these books for wholesale because my daughter works

for & Nobles...however, the downside to ordering them through me

is that you'd have to pay the 3% credit card charge if you use your

card, which decreases the savings. Otherwise, I believe Den from Ozone

Services (www.ozonelabs.com) sells them for less than Amazon also...

Dr.Bormann

***********

Flynn wrote:

>I had heard with an ozone sauna that because of the water from the sauna you

>get oxygen in your system and not ozone. The reason being that the ozone

>becames ozygen when coming in contact with water. Apparently this is the

>determination of the guy from Italy, Bocci, who is an expert on this fact.

>Does anyone know about this.

> Flynn

>1447 Peachtree St. NE

>Suite 414

>Atlanta, Ga. 30309

>

>Tao400@...

> Re: ozone generator - Saul & Dr B.

>

>

>

>

>> " Hall " <moses@a...> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>I am just trying to find an easy way to take low to

>>>medium levels of ozone via the lungs for a few hours per day.

>>>

>>>

>>Breathing ozone is one of the things that you shouldn't do.

>>Go to http://www.yahoo.com and do your own research.

>>

>>The way people treat their lungs with ozone is to bubble

>>the ozone through water and then through olive oil.

>>That way you're not breathing ozone, but ozonides,

>>which aren't as rough on your lungs as ozone.

>>

>>If you want to do this, you will need an ozone generator

>>that will produce enough ozone to deal with going through the

>>water (a certain amount of ozone will be used up at this stage)

>>olive oil (more ozone will be used up at this stage).

>>Then you've got the crud in your lungs - if you smoke,

>>or live anywhere there is pollution. Some of the ozone/ozonides

>>will be used up at this stage, oxidizing the pollution

>>in the air that you breathe, and anything that might

>>have accumulated on the surface of your lungs.

>>Then, if there is any ozone/ozonides left, you'll get some

>>absorbed into your blood, where more ozone/ozonide will be

>>used up oxidizing the toxins/bacteria/etc in your blood.

>>Then, if there is any ozone/ozonides left, it might get to

>>the thing that you wanted to treat in the first place.

>>

>>It isn't clear the the low powered water ozonaters will produce

>>enough ozone that any will end up where you want it to go.

>>Based on Saul's posts, he feels that none will get there

>>(that why he gave his " truck " versus " wheelbarrow " example).

>>

>>One way to avoid the ozone losses of the water/olive oil/pollution

>>is to funnel over directly over your problem spot. But low powered

>>water ozonators don't provide enough ozone for this purpose.

>>

>>BTW, since low powered water ozonators use air, not oxygen,

>>as the feed gas, you run the risk of some nitrous compounds

>>being formed, which turn into nitric acid upon contact with water.

>>This would irritate your lungs/skin/etc.

>>

>>

>>

>>>I take it that you are not interested in selling me one of

>>>your ozone generators - presumably because you think it will

>>>be mis-used?

>>>

>>>

>>Look at it from his point of view - if you can't follow

>>instructions, you could either end up with no results,

>>or worse, you could hurt yourself. And if this happens,

>>in-the-blame-everyone-but-the-person-who-screwed-up legal climate,

>>it could bite him in the butt. So yes, I can see not selling

>>equipment to someone that sounds like they'd misuse it.

>>And given that you keep ignoring what he says on this topic,

>>I can see him thinking that.

>>

>>

>>

>>>If I could get one for under Aus$1,200

>>>

>>>

>>That isn't likely to happen, unless you find someone selling

>>used equipment.

>>

>>The aran-jecter is a high powered water ozonater that falls

>>within your budget, but I don't know if it can be adapted to

>>do what you would need to do - it has a 3 LPM flowrate.

>>If the specifications are correct then it produces enough ozone

>>to do the job, however at that high a flowrate, if you tried

>>to bubble it through olive oil, a lot of ozone would make it through

>>without turning into ozonides. So you can't do the lung therapy.

>>You might be able to funnel, if you're outside, and have a fan

>>blowing the excess ozone away from you so that you don't breath it.

>>Normally, when funnelling, you use a low flowrate, just enough

>>to replace the ozone that is absorbed into your system,

>>so that you don't have ozone escaping from under the funnel

>>into the air.

>>

>>

>>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

>>

>>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi, try

http://www.ozonelab.com/pricing/pricelists/med.htm

for Dr.Bocci's new book.

I think they do it for $108.75

regards

F

> >>

> >>

> >>>I am just trying to find an easy way to take low to

> >>>medium levels of ozone via the lungs for a few hours per day.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>Breathing ozone is one of the things that you shouldn't do.

> >>Go to http://www.yahoo.com and do your own research.

> >>

> >>The way people treat their lungs with ozone is to bubble

> >>the ozone through water and then through olive oil.

> >>That way you're not breathing ozone, but ozonides,

> >>which aren't as rough on your lungs as ozone.

> >>

> >>If you want to do this, you will need an ozone generator

> >>that will produce enough ozone to deal with going through the

> >>water (a certain amount of ozone will be used up at this stage)

> >>olive oil (more ozone will be used up at this stage).

> >>Then you've got the crud in your lungs - if you smoke,

> >>or live anywhere there is pollution. Some of the ozone/ozonides

> >>will be used up at this stage, oxidizing the pollution

> >>in the air that you breathe, and anything that might

> >>have accumulated on the surface of your lungs.

> >>Then, if there is any ozone/ozonides left, you'll get some

> >>absorbed into your blood, where more ozone/ozonide will be

> >>used up oxidizing the toxins/bacteria/etc in your blood.

> >>Then, if there is any ozone/ozonides left, it might get to

> >>the thing that you wanted to treat in the first place.

> >>

> >>It isn't clear the the low powered water ozonaters will produce

> >>enough ozone that any will end up where you want it to go.

> >>Based on Saul's posts, he feels that none will get there

> >>(that why he gave his " truck " versus " wheelbarrow " example).

> >>

> >>One way to avoid the ozone losses of the water/olive oil/pollution

> >>is to funnel over directly over your problem spot. But low powered

> >>water ozonators don't provide enough ozone for this purpose.

> >>

> >>BTW, since low powered water ozonators use air, not oxygen,

> >>as the feed gas, you run the risk of some nitrous compounds

> >>being formed, which turn into nitric acid upon contact with water.

> >>This would irritate your lungs/skin/etc.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>I take it that you are not interested in selling me one of

> >>>your ozone generators - presumably because you think it will

> >>>be mis-used?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>Look at it from his point of view - if you can't follow

> >>instructions, you could either end up with no results,

> >>or worse, you could hurt yourself. And if this happens,

> >>in-the-blame-everyone-but-the-person-who-screwed-up legal climate,

> >>it could bite him in the butt. So yes, I can see not selling

> >>equipment to someone that sounds like they'd misuse it.

> >>And given that you keep ignoring what he says on this topic,

> >>I can see him thinking that.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>If I could get one for under Aus$1,200

> >>>

> >>>

> >>That isn't likely to happen, unless you find someone selling

> >>used equipment.

> >>

> >>The aran-jecter is a high powered water ozonater that falls

> >>within your budget, but I don't know if it can be adapted to

> >>do what you would need to do - it has a 3 LPM flowrate.

> >>If the specifications are correct then it produces enough ozone

> >>to do the job, however at that high a flowrate, if you tried

> >>to bubble it through olive oil, a lot of ozone would make it

through

> >>without turning into ozonides. So you can't do the lung therapy.

> >>You might be able to funnel, if you're outside, and have a fan

> >>blowing the excess ozone away from you so that you don't breath

it.

> >>Normally, when funnelling, you use a low flowrate, just enough

> >>to replace the ozone that is absorbed into your system,

> >>so that you don't have ozone escaping from under the funnel

> >>into the air.

> >>

> >>

> >>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and

> >>

> >>

> >other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> >

> >>THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >>

> >>This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

find here

> >>

> >>

> >are for information and research purposes only. We are people

sharing

> >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do

so at your

> >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the

ability to

> >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you

agree to

> >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any

ideas found

> >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a

researcher

> >or health care provider.

> >

> >

> >>You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the

following

> >>

> >>

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