Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Question(s): what would the research say about bi-pedals running downhill as compared to level or uphill training in regards to injury prevention and overall training effect? What speeds would be used to increase human performance (overspeed/long slow distance (lsd)/%VO2 max)? Roy Tucson, AZ --- carruthersjam wrote: > > > Considerable research apparently has shown that > significant levels > > of post-exercise soreness or DOMS (Delayed Onset > Muscle Soreness) > are produced after regimes of eccentric training. > For instance, > Friden et al (1983) (Intl J of Sports Med Vol 4 No > 3) determined that > a single session of intense eccentric exercise > causes pronounced > DOMS which peaks after 24-72 hours after exercise > and disappears > several days later. This soreness is accompanied by > a reduced > dynamic strength and damage to the microfibrils and > connective > tissue elements such as the Z-bands which are a > component of the > Series Elastic Component of the muscle complex. > > > > These researchers also examined the effects of > longer periods of > > eccentric exercise (3 sessions a week over a total > of 8 weeks) and > discovered that post-exercise soreness not only did > not occur after 2- > 3 weeks, but the ability to perform eccentric work > even increased by > 375%. At the same time biopsies revealed that > Z-band damage had not > taken place, suggesting that adaptation to eccentric > exercise had > occurred. This research was corroborated by Schwane > & Armstrong > (1983), who found that downhill running in rats > produced a superior > training effect to level or uphill training and > prevented injury > more effectively than the latter. > > > > Thus, it would seem that eccentric training tends > to cause muscle > > soreness to a significant degree predominantly in > novice subjects > or those unused to eccentric activity and that > adaptation takes > place among more experienced athletes and minimises > the occurrence > of soreness after eccentric activity. This would > then suggest that > various therapists and coaches may be exaggerating > the dangers or > work-reducing effects of eccentric training. > > > > The process of this adaptation to eccentric > loading may also be less > > well understood than we currently may imagine, > since the competitive > > weightlifter and bodybuilder regularly apply the > principle of > progressive overload, i.e. the gradual and periodic > increase in > loading. This type of loading is invariably > associated with a > heavily or maximally loaded eccentric phase of joint > movement, so > that adaptation to a lower level of eccentric stress > logically would > seem to be rather irrelevant to adaptation to higher > levels of > eccentric loading. > > > > ***** > Relevant to the above: > > Adaptive response in human skeletal muscle subjected > to prolonged > eccentric training. > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):177-83. > • Friden J, > • Seger J, > • Sjostrom M, > • Ekblom B. > > The peripheral adaptation process associated with > repeating eccentric > training over a longer period of time was studied in > m. vastus > lateralis of eleven healthy males aged 24 +/- 4 > years. The maximal > dynamic concentric muscle strength was only slightly > improved after 8 > weeks of training. However, eccentric work capacity > was dramatically > increased (375%). A maximal eccentric stint > immediately after > fulfilled 8 weeks of training caused a selective > glycogen depletion > from the type 28 fibers. An increased number of type > 2C fibers was > observed. The ultrastructure analysis showed an > essentially well- > preserved fine structure. Volume density of > mitochondria was somewhat > higher in all fiber types after training. Z-band > widths were not > affected by eccentric training. > > It is concluded that skeletal musculature adapts > itself in a > functional manner to the extreme tension demands put > on them. > Improved coordination and reorganization of the > contractile apparatus > of muscle fibers are the determining mechanisms of > this adaptation. > > --------------------- > Myofibrillar damage following intense eccentric > exercise in man. > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):170-6. > > • Friden J, > • Sjostrom M, > • Ekblom B. > > Muscle soreness that has a delayed onset is a common > feature among > both athletes and untrained individuals who engage > in unusual > exercises. This study was designed to provide > additional > morphological data to assess the relevance and > significance of our > previous findings that the sore muscles contain > fibers with > disorganized myofibrillar material. > > Muscle biopsies were obtained from 12 males (mean > age 25 +/- 7 > years), who suffered from severe soreness in their > thigh muscles 18-- > 72 h following eccentric bicycle exercise. Their > strength performance > were tested in parallel. Knee extensor strength was > decreased at all > angular velocities soon after exercise but gradually > increased over > the subsequent days although slower at the fastest > contractions. > Disturbances of the cross-striated band pattern were > constantly > observed. They originated from the myofibrillar > Z-band, which showed > marked streaming, broadening and, at places, total > disruption. The > disturbances were found in every second to every > third fiber up to 3 > days after exercise and in one tenth of the fibers 6 > days following > the exercise. Type 2 fibers were predominantly > affected. Thus, the > eccentric exercise gives rise to muscles soreness > and influences, on > mechanical basis and selectively with regard to > fiber type, the fine > structure of the contractile apparatus. > > ====================== > Carruthers > Wakefield, UK > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 > > > > > > Considerable research apparently has shown that > > significant levels > > > of post-exercise soreness or DOMS (Delayed Onset > > Muscle Soreness) > > are produced after regimes of eccentric training. > > For instance, > > Friden et al (1983) (Intl J of Sports Med Vol 4 No > > 3) determined that > > a single session of intense eccentric exercise > > causes pronounced > > DOMS which peaks after 24-72 hours after exercise > > and disappears > > several days later. This soreness is accompanied by > > a reduced > > dynamic strength and damage to the microfibrils and > > connective > > tissue elements such as the Z-bands which are a > > component of the > > Series Elastic Component of the muscle complex. > > > > > > These researchers also examined the effects of > > longer periods of > > > eccentric exercise (3 sessions a week over a total > > of 8 weeks) and > > discovered that post-exercise soreness not only did > > not occur after 2- > > 3 weeks, but the ability to perform eccentric work > > even increased by > > 375%. At the same time biopsies revealed that > > Z-band damage had not > > taken place, suggesting that adaptation to eccentric > > exercise had > > occurred. This research was corroborated by Schwane > > & Armstrong > > (1983), who found that downhill running in rats > > produced a superior > > training effect to level or uphill training and > > prevented injury > > more effectively than the latter. > > > > > > Thus, it would seem that eccentric training tends > > to cause muscle > > > soreness to a significant degree predominantly in > > novice subjects > > or those unused to eccentric activity and that > > adaptation takes > > place among more experienced athletes and minimises > > the occurrence > > of soreness after eccentric activity. This would > > then suggest that > > various therapists and coaches may be exaggerating > > the dangers or > > work-reducing effects of eccentric training. > > > > > > The process of this adaptation to eccentric > > loading may also be less > > > well understood than we currently may imagine, > > since the competitive > > > weightlifter and bodybuilder regularly apply the > > principle of > > progressive overload, i.e. the gradual and periodic > > increase in > > loading. This type of loading is invariably > > associated with a > > heavily or maximally loaded eccentric phase of joint > > movement, so > > that adaptation to a lower level of eccentric stress > > logically would > > seem to be rather irrelevant to adaptation to higher > > levels of > > eccentric loading. > > > > > > > ***** > > Relevant to the above: > > > > Adaptive response in human skeletal muscle subjected > > to prolonged > > eccentric training. > > > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):177-83. > > • Friden J, > > • Seger J, > > • Sjostrom M, > > • Ekblom B. > > > > The peripheral adaptation process associated with > > repeating eccentric > > training over a longer period of time was studied in > > m. vastus > > lateralis of eleven healthy males aged 24 +/- 4 > > years. The maximal > > dynamic concentric muscle strength was only slightly > > improved after 8 > > weeks of training. However, eccentric work capacity > > was dramatically > > increased (375%). A maximal eccentric stint > > immediately after > > fulfilled 8 weeks of training caused a selective > > glycogen depletion > > from the type 28 fibers. An increased number of type > > 2C fibers was > > observed. The ultrastructure analysis showed an > > essentially well- > > preserved fine structure. Volume density of > > mitochondria was somewhat > > higher in all fiber types after training. Z-band > > widths were not > > affected by eccentric training. > > > > It is concluded that skeletal musculature adapts > > itself in a > > functional manner to the extreme tension demands put > > on them. > > Improved coordination and reorganization of the > > contractile apparatus > > of muscle fibers are the determining mechanisms of > > this adaptation. > > > > --------------------- > > Myofibrillar damage following intense eccentric > > exercise in man. > > > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):170-6. > > > > • Friden J, > > • Sjostrom M, > > • Ekblom B. > > > > Muscle soreness that has a delayed onset is a common > > feature among > > both athletes and untrained individuals who engage > > in unusual > > exercises. This study was designed to provide > > additional > > morphological data to assess the relevance and > > significance of our > > previous findings that the sore muscles contain > > fibers with > > disorganized myofibrillar material. > > > > Muscle biopsies were obtained from 12 males (mean > > age 25 +/- 7 > > years), who suffered from severe soreness in their > > thigh muscles 18-- > > 72 h following eccentric bicycle exercise. Their > > strength performance > > were tested in parallel. Knee extensor strength was > > decreased at all > > angular velocities soon after exercise but gradually > > increased over > > the subsequent days although slower at the fastest > > contractions. > > Disturbances of the cross-striated band pattern were > > constantly > > observed. They originated from the myofibrillar > > Z-band, which showed > > marked streaming, broadening and, at places, total > > disruption. The > > disturbances were found in every second to every > > third fiber up to 3 > > days after exercise and in one tenth of the fibers 6 > > days following > > the exercise. Type 2 fibers were predominantly > > affected. Thus, the > > eccentric exercise gives rise to muscles soreness > > and influences, on > > mechanical basis and selectively with regard to > > fiber type, the fine > > structure of the contractile apparatus. > > > > ====================== > > Carruthers > > Wakefield, UK > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 > > > > > > Considerable research apparently has shown that > > significant levels > > > of post-exercise soreness or DOMS (Delayed Onset > > Muscle Soreness) > > are produced after regimes of eccentric training. > > For instance, > > Friden et al (1983) (Intl J of Sports Med Vol 4 No > > 3) determined that > > a single session of intense eccentric exercise > > causes pronounced > > DOMS which peaks after 24-72 hours after exercise > > and disappears > > several days later. This soreness is accompanied by > > a reduced > > dynamic strength and damage to the microfibrils and > > connective > > tissue elements such as the Z-bands which are a > > component of the > > Series Elastic Component of the muscle complex. > > > > > > These researchers also examined the effects of > > longer periods of > > > eccentric exercise (3 sessions a week over a total > > of 8 weeks) and > > discovered that post-exercise soreness not only did > > not occur after 2- > > 3 weeks, but the ability to perform eccentric work > > even increased by > > 375%. At the same time biopsies revealed that > > Z-band damage had not > > taken place, suggesting that adaptation to eccentric > > exercise had > > occurred. This research was corroborated by Schwane > > & Armstrong > > (1983), who found that downhill running in rats > > produced a superior > > training effect to level or uphill training and > > prevented injury > > more effectively than the latter. > > > > > > Thus, it would seem that eccentric training tends > > to cause muscle > > > soreness to a significant degree predominantly in > > novice subjects > > or those unused to eccentric activity and that > > adaptation takes > > place among more experienced athletes and minimises > > the occurrence > > of soreness after eccentric activity. This would > > then suggest that > > various therapists and coaches may be exaggerating > > the dangers or > > work-reducing effects of eccentric training. > > > > > > The process of this adaptation to eccentric > > loading may also be less > > > well understood than we currently may imagine, > > since the competitive > > > weightlifter and bodybuilder regularly apply the > > principle of > > progressive overload, i.e. the gradual and periodic > > increase in > > loading. This type of loading is invariably > > associated with a > > heavily or maximally loaded eccentric phase of joint > > movement, so > > that adaptation to a lower level of eccentric stress > > logically would > > seem to be rather irrelevant to adaptation to higher > > levels of > > eccentric loading. > > > > > > > ***** > > Relevant to the above: > > > > Adaptive response in human skeletal muscle subjected > > to prolonged > > eccentric training. > > > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):177-83. > > • Friden J, > > • Seger J, > > • Sjostrom M, > > • Ekblom B. > > > > The peripheral adaptation process associated with > > repeating eccentric > > training over a longer period of time was studied in > > m. vastus > > lateralis of eleven healthy males aged 24 +/- 4 > > years. The maximal > > dynamic concentric muscle strength was only slightly > > improved after 8 > > weeks of training. However, eccentric work capacity > > was dramatically > > increased (375%). A maximal eccentric stint > > immediately after > > fulfilled 8 weeks of training caused a selective > > glycogen depletion > > from the type 28 fibers. An increased number of type > > 2C fibers was > > observed. The ultrastructure analysis showed an > > essentially well- > > preserved fine structure. Volume density of > > mitochondria was somewhat > > higher in all fiber types after training. Z-band > > widths were not > > affected by eccentric training. > > > > It is concluded that skeletal musculature adapts > > itself in a > > functional manner to the extreme tension demands put > > on them. > > Improved coordination and reorganization of the > > contractile apparatus > > of muscle fibers are the determining mechanisms of > > this adaptation. > > > > --------------------- > > Myofibrillar damage following intense eccentric > > exercise in man. > > > > Int J Sports Med. 1983 Aug;4(3):170-6. > > > > • Friden J, > > • Sjostrom M, > > • Ekblom B. > > > > Muscle soreness that has a delayed onset is a common > > feature among > > both athletes and untrained individuals who engage > > in unusual > > exercises. This study was designed to provide > > additional > > morphological data to assess the relevance and > > significance of our > > previous findings that the sore muscles contain > > fibers with > > disorganized myofibrillar material. > > > > Muscle biopsies were obtained from 12 males (mean > > age 25 +/- 7 > > years), who suffered from severe soreness in their > > thigh muscles 18-- > > 72 h following eccentric bicycle exercise. Their > > strength performance > > were tested in parallel. Knee extensor strength was > > decreased at all > > angular velocities soon after exercise but gradually > > increased over > > the subsequent days although slower at the fastest > > contractions. > > Disturbances of the cross-striated band pattern were > > constantly > > observed. They originated from the myofibrillar > > Z-band, which showed > > marked streaming, broadening and, at places, total > > disruption. The > > disturbances were found in every second to every > > third fiber up to 3 > > days after exercise and in one tenth of the fibers 6 > > days following > > the exercise. Type 2 fibers were predominantly > > affected. Thus, the > > eccentric exercise gives rise to muscles soreness > > and influences, on > > mechanical basis and selectively with regard to > > fiber type, the fine > > structure of the contractile apparatus. > > > > ====================== > > Carruthers > > Wakefield, UK > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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