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i agree with you, joe. i was much more restrictive for awhile and then realized

it was backfiring and leading my dd not to enjoy all the varied healthy things

that she does eat. now i make cookies or other homemade goodies more frequently

and it's amazing because she really does like to overdose on these home treats a

bit, but we went somewhere the other day and someone gave her a peppermint stick

(crap) and i decided to let her make the choice about eating it.....well, she

chose to but gave it back to me, made a face and said, " i will just save that

for later " LOL, meaning that she didn't like it! i also agree with the theory

that these things aren't a big deal when one's diet looks pretty

impeccable---like my dd's. it's been so much more fun for all of us that i

stopped making a big deal of things, much more relaxing.

Joe <jzbozzi@...> wrote:

> HI all-

>

> I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

> heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

> birthday cake. Is this the right list to learn from or is there a

> better one for me? I want info on giving DHA, nutritious snacks,

> good bite size food for meals, etc.

>

> Thanks,

>

> riley_kendi@h...

Hi

Personally I choose to buy a good chocolate cake from a local French

bakery for the birthday. I am just concerned they are using real

butter, eggs, etc instead of the artificial crap like trans fat. I

don't think there is a problem with a cake once in a while. Just

about every meal we eat is good, the body can handle a little junk

just fine. I give them real shortbread or other butter cookie or

dark chocolate too.

I will also make raw ice cream (raw cream, raw egg, raw honey) and

they love home made whipped cream topped with berries. Also for the

birthday I made honey butter coated nuts and popcorn. The other kids

who are used to pop tarts and hostess fruit pies don't care for them

so much, but my kids love them.

I think these foods that are not the best thing in the world can be

enjoyed in moderation. Besides, I don't think nutrition is the end

all to achieve good health. I have seen parents restrict their

children so much I think any gain in physical health might be negated

by some emotional damage.

regards, Joe

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Raw ice cream cake?

Wanita

> > I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

> > heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

> > birthday cake.

> > Thanks,

> >

> > riley_kendi@h...

> I will also make raw ice cream (raw cream, raw egg, raw honey) and

> they love home made whipped cream topped with berries.

>

> regards, Joe

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yes, yes, again i agree completely. i don't think my dd would have been as much

that way but she was on a vegan diet for the first two years of her life and it

seems, much to my chagrin, that she will continue to desire sweets and also

bread (and other flour foods) is a big one for us. i'm in the same boat.

Joe <jzbozzi@...> wrote:--- In , heather

coy <hjillcoy@y...>

wrote:

> i agree with you, joe. i was much more restrictive for awhile and

then realized it was backfiring and leading my dd not to enjoy all

the varied healthy things that she does eat. now i make cookies or

other homemade goodies more frequently and it's amazing because she

really does like to overdose on these home treats a bit, but we went

somewhere the other day and someone gave her a peppermint stick

(crap) and i decided to let her make the choice about eating

it.....well, she chose to but gave it back to me, made a face and

said, " i will just save that for later " LOL, meaning that she

didn't like it! i also agree with the theory that these things

aren't a big deal when one's diet looks pretty impeccable---like my

dd's. it's been so much more fun for all of us that i stopped

making a big deal of things, much more relaxing.

>

Kind of the same here. I was hoping that by really cutting sugar

out of my sons diet his sugar addiction would break. It did not.

he still really craves it. I bet if I started feeding him well from

day one it would not have happened. I think it's already been hard

wired into his brain and not sure it would ever go away now. So

after i realized it won't work we do enjoy cookies or cakes or

candies every once in a while, but always good top

quality " traditional " kind. like u wer saying, I now hope he too

will at least develop a taste for " good " junk, so he would turn up

his nose as something like a ho ho or such. maybe some day he will

be able to enjoy the simplicity of a classic shortbread and not need

it chocolate caramel frosting coated.

-joe

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Do these children have access to TV? This could be a major source of a

child's " craving " for sweets because of all the garbage ads pointed at

children.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

From: heather coy [mailto:hjillcoy@...]

yes, yes, again i agree completely. i don't think my dd would have been as

much that way but she was on a vegan diet for the first two years of her

life and it seems, much to my chagrin, that she will continue to desire

sweets and also bread (and other flour foods) is a big one for us. i'm in

the same boat.

Joe <jzbozzi@...> wrote:--- In ,

heather coy <hjillcoy@y...>

wrote:

> i agree with you, joe. i was much more restrictive for awhile and

then realized it was backfiring and leading my dd not to enjoy all

the varied healthy things that she does eat. now i make cookies or

other homemade goodies more frequently and it's amazing because she

really does like to overdose on these home treats a bit, but we went

somewhere the other day and someone gave her a peppermint stick

(crap) and i decided to let her make the choice about eating

it.....well, she chose to but gave it back to me, made a face and

said, " i will just save that for later " LOL, meaning that she

didn't like it! i also agree with the theory that these things

aren't a big deal when one's diet looks pretty impeccable---like my

dd's. it's been so much more fun for all of us that i stopped

making a big deal of things, much more relaxing.

>

Kind of the same here. I was hoping that by really cutting sugar

out of my sons diet his sugar addiction would break. It did not.

he still really craves it. I bet if I started feeding him well from

day one it would not have happened. I think it's already been hard

wired into his brain and not sure it would ever go away now. So

after i realized it won't work we do enjoy cookies or cakes or

candies every once in a while, but always good top

quality " traditional " kind. like u wer saying, I now hope he too

will at least develop a taste for " good " junk, so he would turn up

his nose as something like a ho ho or such. maybe some day he will

be able to enjoy the simplicity of a classic shortbread and not need

it chocolate caramel frosting coated.

-joe

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Well, yeah. It's got BACTERIA in it. The kind with those long

claw-like fingery-looking things. REAAAALLLLLY long. And don't even

talk to me about the talons and stuff. They lie in wait for someone to

walk by, and they reach out (via this really cool

bovine-invented-technology-advanced osmosis-ized thingamawhatzies) through

the fridge door and .... *EEEEKKKK!!!!*

*Burl Ives voice*

Tell me when it's over!

At 01:55 AM 1/29/04 -0000, you wrote:

> This reminds me, when I first got raw milk in the house I was the

> only one in my family drinking it for over a month to make sure it

> my in laws found out about

> the raw milk who are both doctors, and the kids got sick before i

> of course what did the blame the sickness on,

> yes, even the mere presense of raw milk in the house can

> cause sickness. no wonder it has to be outlawed!

MFJ

Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment.

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