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>So, the top 1/2 inch or so was tangy and sour, and

>just below the taste became much milder. Is this

>normal? How can I get the taste the same all the way

>through (I like it tangy)? The good news is my

>boyfriend liked the tangy bit, so at last I have found

>something fermented that he will eat! The more hot

>stuff I put in the more he will like it.

If you leave it longer, it gets more sour. It will also

sour up in the fridge. It also gets more sour if you

add a bit of sugar, I think.

>Here's a bit of a personal question... don't read on

>if you don't want too much information.... it has

>given me quite bad wind with a distinct kimchee aroma!

>Is this normal? Do I just need to get used to it?

>I've only eaten 1/4-1/2 a cup at a time, which I

>didn't think was much and I would like to eat more.

Raw cabbage does that to me, but not kimchi.

I think was saying kimchi isn't great for him

either, with cabbage. So maybe it depends on the person.

However, kefir did that to me at first until I got

used to it, so maybe it has to do with getting used

to it?

>Sauerkraut sometimes gives me wind, and I figured it

>was due to quantity, and also due to the fact that it

>is not as fermented as kimchee which ferments much

>much quicker. If I left the kimchee to ferment longer

>in the jar, would it ferment less in my gut?

Try it and find out? You can also make kimchi with

things other than cabbage. Cabbage DOES have a

unique set of chemicals in it (which are thought

to be cancer fighters etc, doesn't say anything

about digestion!).

-- Heidi

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>Here's a bit of a personal question... don't read on

>if you don't want too much information.... it has

>given me quite bad wind with a distinct kimchee aroma!

>Is this normal? Do I just need to get used to it?

>I've only eaten 1/4-1/2 a cup at a time, which I

>didn't think was much and I would like to eat more.

joann, i found out yesterday that the commercial kimchee i was eating made

me gassy too. but i hadn't noticed that with my homemade kimchi. one big

difference between the two is that i put my veggies for my homemade kimchee

in my food processor and grind them up into small bits, so they are quite a

bit smaller than the big chunks of cabbage in the commercial kimchee i'm

eating. i also usually ferment mine for at least 2 weeks before eating. i

have no idea how long this commercial kimchee was fermented. but, i think

both size of the veggies and fermenting time can affect digestibility.

Suze Fisher

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Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

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There's a good chance that the commercial kimchee has been pasturized.

When you make your own kimchee it won't taste like any one else's

kimchee. The beneficial bacteria and microorganisms that develop in

fermentations vary from place to place. If there's daikon in your

batch it can have a foul odor and taste quite delicious. Fermentations

can go bad. Does it taste bad? Usually a bad smell is a sign that

decay has set in before beneficial bacterial have been able to

establish and thrive.

I don't think that size of vegetables is bad. The longer you let your

kimchee marinate the more flavor it will take on. I make a sauerkraut

with big cabbage chunks. I wait two months before even beginning to

eat it.

On Jan 22, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Suze Fisher wrote:

>> Here's a bit of a personal question... don't read on

>> if you don't want too much information.... it has

>> given me quite bad wind with a distinct kimchee aroma!

>> Is this normal? Do I just need to get used to it?

>> I've only eaten 1/4-1/2 a cup at a time, which I

>> didn't think was much and I would like to eat more.

>

>

> joann, i found out yesterday that the commercial kimchee i was eating

> made

> me gassy too. but i hadn't noticed that with my homemade kimchi. one

> big

> difference between the two is that i put my veggies for my homemade

> kimchee

> in my food processor and grind them up into small bits, so they are

> quite a

> bit smaller than the big chunks of cabbage in the commercial kimchee

> I'm

> eating. i also usually ferment mine for at least 2 weeks before

> eating. i

> have no idea how long this commercial kimchee was fermented. but, i

> think

> both size of the veggies and fermenting time can affect digestibility.

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

> Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

> http://www.westonaprice.org

>

> ----------------------------

> " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol

> cause

> heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. "

> --

> Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

> University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

>

> The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

> <http://www.thincs.org>

> ----------------------------

>

>>

>

>

>

>

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> There's a good chance that the commercial kimchee has been

pasturized.

not the one i'm eating - it's unpasteurized.

> When you make your own kimchee it won't taste like any one else's

> kimchee. The beneficial bacteria and microorganisms that develop

in

> fermentations vary from place to place.

i've never tasted any kimchee that tastes like any other kimchee,

whether homemade or commercial. LOL! the commercial kimchee i'm

eating right now is quite delicious. sometimes my homemade kimchee is

too, and sometimes it's not.

If there's daikon in your

> batch it can have a foul odor and taste quite delicious.

Fermentations

> can go bad. Does it taste bad?

no, not at all - there's nothing wrong with it at all. it just gives

me a little gas, making me think the size of the chunks in relation

to fermenting time mean it's not as fermented as long it needs to in

order for me to digest it more completely.

> I don't think that size of vegetables is bad. The longer you let

your

> kimchee marinate the more flavor it will take on. I make a

sauerkraut

> with big cabbage chunks. I wait two months before even beginning

to

> eat it.

exactly my point! it's the relationship between size of veggies to

fermentation time that is operative in how well it digests (not to

mention other variables such as how much salt, etc, plus the health

of one's digsetive system). you have big chunks and you let it

ferment a long time. i have small chunks and don't let it ferment as

long. i would think that the larger the veggies the longer it would

take to ferment in order to be equally digestible as smaller

veggies/shorter ferment time. that's what i was saying in far fewer

word in my response to joanne :-)

suze

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