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hahahaha!

you're in the right place.

i think when my daughter turns one, i'm going to get a lovely red-waxed

balls of local raw milk gouda cheese and stick a candle in it! :)

how old is your son/daughter?

At 11:46 AM 1/27/2004, you wrote:

>HI all-

>

>I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

>heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

>birthday cake. Is this the right list to learn from or is there a

>better one for me? I want info on giving DHA, nutritious snacks,

>good bite size food for meals, etc.

>

>Thanks,

>

>riley_kendi@...

>

>

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This sure is the right place. We just got back from visiting my in-laws out

of state. It took some driving but I managed to find raw milk and pastured

eggs for my 21 month old. The in-laws didn't say much about our strange

eating habits but the " what kind of lunatic did my son/brother marry " look

in their eyes was unmistakable. I just kept my mouth shut and ignored them.

We don't see them that often.

Irene

At 08:57 AM 1/27/04, you wrote:

>hahahaha!

>you're in the right place.

>i think when my daughter turns one, i'm going to get a lovely red-waxed

>balls of local raw milk gouda cheese and stick a candle in it! :)

>

>how old is your son/daughter?

>

>At 11:46 AM 1/27/2004, you wrote:

> >HI all-

> >

> >I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

> >heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

> >birthday cake. Is this the right list to learn from or is there a

> >better one for me? I want info on giving DHA, nutritious snacks,

> >good bite size food for meals, etc.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >riley_kendi@...

> >

> >

> >

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> HI all-

>

> I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

> heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

> birthday cake. Is this the right list to learn from or is there a

> better one for me? I want info on giving DHA, nutritious snacks,

> good bite size food for meals, etc.

>

> Thanks,

>

> riley_kendi@h...

Hi

Personally I choose to buy a good chocolate cake from a local French

bakery for the birthday. I am just concerned they are using real

butter, eggs, etc instead of the artificial crap like trans fat. I

don't think there is a problem with a cake once in a while. Just

about every meal we eat is good, the body can handle a little junk

just fine. I give them real shortbread or other butter cookie or

dark chocolate too.

I will also make raw ice cream (raw cream, raw egg, raw honey) and

they love home made whipped cream topped with berries. Also for the

birthday I made honey butter coated nuts and popcorn. The other kids

who are used to pop tarts and hostess fruit pies don't care for them

so much, but my kids love them.

I think these foods that are not the best thing in the world can be

enjoyed in moderation. Besides, I don't think nutrition is the end

all to achieve good health. I have seen parents restrict their

children so much I think any gain in physical health might be negated

by some emotional damage.

regards, Joe

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--- riley_kendi <riley_kendi@...> wrote: > HI

all-

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> I just joined this list to learn more about raising

> a child to eat

> heathy.

Hi Tracey

You could also try nativefamilynutrition

Jo

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We've made Gaby a " healthy " cake for two years now, and each time, it was

just something to stick the candles in. I'm freezing some strawberry sorbet

this year w/ some carob type stuff on it.

take care,

Michele

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>Subject: Re: Child Nutrition

>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:57:03 -0500

>

>hahahaha!

>you're in the right place.

>i think when my daughter turns one, i'm going to get a lovely red-waxed

>balls of local raw milk gouda cheese and stick a candle in it! :)

>

>how old is your son/daughter?

>

>At 11:46 AM 1/27/2004, you wrote:

> >HI all-

> >

> >I just joined this list to learn more about raising a child to eat

> >heathy. I got a ton of grief from people for not giving my child

> >birthday cake. Is this the right list to learn from or is there a

> >better one for me? I want info on giving DHA, nutritious snacks,

> >good bite size food for meals, etc.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >riley_kendi@...

> >

> >

> >

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--- In , heather coy <hjillcoy@y...>

wrote:

> i agree with you, joe. i was much more restrictive for awhile and

then realized it was backfiring and leading my dd not to enjoy all

the varied healthy things that she does eat. now i make cookies or

other homemade goodies more frequently and it's amazing because she

really does like to overdose on these home treats a bit, but we went

somewhere the other day and someone gave her a peppermint stick

(crap) and i decided to let her make the choice about eating

it.....well, she chose to but gave it back to me, made a face and

said, " i will just save that for later " LOL, meaning that she

didn't like it! i also agree with the theory that these things

aren't a big deal when one's diet looks pretty impeccable---like my

dd's. it's been so much more fun for all of us that i stopped

making a big deal of things, much more relaxing.

>

Kind of the same here. I was hoping that by really cutting sugar

out of my sons diet his sugar addiction would break. It did not.

he still really craves it. I bet if I started feeding him well from

day one it would not have happened. I think it's already been hard

wired into his brain and not sure it would ever go away now. So

after i realized it won't work we do enjoy cookies or cakes or

candies every once in a while, but always good top

quality " traditional " kind. like u wer saying, I now hope he too

will at least develop a taste for " good " junk, so he would turn up

his nose as something like a ho ho or such. maybe some day he will

be able to enjoy the simplicity of a classic shortbread and not need

it chocolate caramel frosting coated.

-joe

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Nanette,

Check out http://www.realmilk.com/why.html for more info about raw milk,

especially

http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html - " Milk Cures Many Diseases " and

http://www.realmilk.com/update_fall01_safebabies.html " IS RAW MILK SAFE FOR

BABIES? "

I doubt the raw milk was the problem.

Peace,

Kris , gardening in harmony with nature in northwest Ohio

http://home.woh.rr.com/billkrisjohnson/

On the Fallacy of our Cheap Food policies:

http://home.woh.rr.com/billkrisjohnson/Kris/Justice.htm

Child Nutrition

Hello - I just joined the group - I was introduced to the Weston Price

Foundation about 6 months ago - purchased Sally FAllon's NT book, and have

recently started integrating/changing my family's eating habits.

I gave my children raw milk for the first time two weeks ago. It was so

creamy and delicious. (Raw milk sold for pet consumption only...illegal in

Tennessee to sell raw milk for anything else.) Anyway, five days after

drinking the raw milk, my oldest son ran a high fever (103.5) for a couple

days. Of course, I blamed myself for giving him raw milk and immediately

jumped on the internet to find what could be the cause -

I came up with brucellosis - undulant fever.

The farm that supplied the milk if highly reputable, they are small, have

only one dairy cow, and drink the milk at their own tiable. So......could

someone please allay my fears. Could it really be brucellosis or was it

just a freak fever with no other symptoms?

looking forward to sharing with y'all :)

Nanette

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>I gave my children raw milk for the first time two weeks ago. It was so

>creamy and delicious. (Raw milk sold for pet consumption only...illegal in

>Tennessee to sell raw milk for anything else.) Anyway, five days after

>drinking the raw milk, my oldest son ran a high fever (103.5) for a couple

>days. Of course, I blamed myself for giving him raw milk and immediately

>jumped on the internet to find what could be the cause -

>

>I came up with brucellosis - undulant fever.

>

>The farm that supplied the milk if highly reputable, they are small, have

>only one dairy cow, and drink the milk at their own tiable. So......could

>someone please allay my fears. Could it really be brucellosis or was it

>just a freak fever with no other symptoms?

>

nanette, i certainly can't say for sure but i'd seriously doubt your child

got undulant fever. if i'm not mistaken it's quite uncommon. many of us here

and around the country drink raw milk routinely without any problems. there

is indeed a lot of fear-mongering about raw milk in the press and from the

gov't as well as on the Net. that's not to say that you *can't* get ill from

raw milk - it can happen if your source is low quality. really, quality is

the main issue - i can't see any possible way to get sick from high quality

raw milk. know your source - talk to the farmer - ask how often he runs

mastitis testing, ask what the cows eat, look at the cows and see if they

look healthy. if they eat a diet of primarily grass, if they are healthy

then you needn't worry. the mastitis testing is just extra insurance, but if

the cows are healthy they will be far more resistant to it.

Suze Fisher

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> nanette, i certainly can't say for sure but i'd seriously doubt

your child

> got undulant fever. if i'm not mistaken it's quite uncommon. many

of us here

> and around the country drink raw milk routinely without any

problems. there

> is indeed a lot of fear-mongering about raw milk in the press and

from the

> gov't as well as on the Net. that's not to say that you *can't*

get ill from

> raw milk - it can happen if your source is low quality. really,

quality is

> the main issue - i can't see any possible way to get sick from

high quality

> raw milk. know your source - talk to the farmer - ask how often he

runs

> mastitis testing, ask what the cows eat, look at the cows and see

if they

> look healthy. if they eat a diet of primarily grass, if they are

healthy

> then you needn't worry. the mastitis testing is just extra

insurance, but if

> the cows are healthy they will be far more resistant to it.

This reminds me, when I first got raw milk in the house I was the

only one in my family drinking it for over a month to make sure it

was safe cause i was brainwashed too. my in laws found out about

the raw milk who are both doctors, and the kids got sick before i

even gave them some. of course what did the blame the sickness on,

the milk! yes, even the mere presense of raw milk in the house can

cause sickness. no wonder it has to be outlawed!

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