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Carol,

Hello, I just joined this group. It seems to be a great group. I have had

some bad experiences and am searching for new groups and have even started a

new one of my own.

For those of you who don't know me, I am a 34 year old married mother of

three boys. I am a nurse, but I am not currently working outside the home

due to my health problems. I do look in on an elderly neighbor and help

her with her medications and some meals. This helps me feel like my skills

are not going to waste and makes me feel useful. I enjoy raising my

children, but there is no immediate payback from that most of the time. I

often feel unappreciated when it comes to my children.

I was diagnosed with fms 6 1/2 years ago. I have since been diagnosed with

cfs, ibs, and mcs. I also have severe food and drug allergies that seem to

be related to the fms.

I hope to get to know all of you.

Gentle hugs,

Fern

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Welcome to the list, Fern! Many of us do understand what it is like to be

" trapped " at home with chronic pain and chronic illness. One thing I've

discovered with my children (three grown and married, but I have a ten year

old still at home, and four grandchildren) is that if I appreciate them by

saying thank you when they do something...like empty the dishwasher or

wiping off the kitchen counters...they are more likely to say thank you to

me when I do something for them. I used to complain...loudly...that no one

appreciated everything I did around the house. Just ended up with them

defending themselves and arguing with me. The attempt to be as kind and

tolerant of my family as I try to be of others is reaping lots of kind acts,

tender responses, and real appreciation. Just a thought.

Ray

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> Carol,

>

> Hello, I just joined this group. It seems to be a great group. I have

had

> some bad experiences and am searching for new groups and have even started

a

> new one of my own.

>

> For those of you who don't know me, I am a 34 year old married mother of

> three boys. I am a nurse, but I am not currently working outside the home

> due to my health problems. I do look in on an elderly neighbor and help

> her with her medications and some meals. This helps me feel like my

skills

> are not going to waste and makes me feel useful. I enjoy raising my

> children, but there is no immediate payback from that most of the time. I

> often feel unappreciated when it comes to my children.

>

> I was diagnosed with fms 6 1/2 years ago. I have since been diagnosed

with

> cfs, ibs, and mcs. I also have severe food and drug allergies that seem

to

> be related to the fms.

>

> I hope to get to know all of you.

>

> Gentle hugs,

> Fern

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>

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Hi Fern,

I, for one, am glad I have a place to go to where I can meet some nice folks

and maybe learn how to " live " with pain. One question comes to mind in

reading your post...what does cfs, ibs and mcs stand for...I'd guess cfs

would be Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, IBS..Irritable Bowel Syndrome..msc ???

muscle problem??? fms..maybe a nerve problem??? Just guessing...

How old are your boys? Three boys..my identical twin has three boys. Now all

grown up and two are married. I have two adopted children..now grown up too.

In fact I'm extremely worried about my son in Chorpus Christie facing

hurricane Bret. He call this morning at 10:30 stating they were heading out

towards San..I feel they made the move too late!! The roads will be a

parking lot. They have two little ones..girls. One age 3 and one age 6...I'm

so worried right now!! He said they'd call when they got somewhere...I think

he will have to use the mobil phone because he'll be on a road somewhere.

Hope you are having a good day..nice of you to helpout an elderly lady...I

have a lady across the street, bedridden for about five years now,that I try

to visit with too.

God Bless!

K.

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In a message dated 8/22/99 3:01:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

maryk@... writes:

<< In fact I'm extremely worried about my son in Chorpus Christie facing

hurricane Bret. He call this morning at 10:30 stating they were heading out

towards San..I feel they made the move too late!! >>

K: Hope you have heard from your son by now and he and his family are

out of harm's way. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

{{{and pain-free wishes}}}

Carol

ICQ #14061790

" In the little decisions of life, follow your mind; in the big decisions of

life, follow your heart. " (author unknown)

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Hi ____hope this finds u all in not too much pain___I have IBS and that

is a dysfuntion of the lower intestine of the bowel which can cause

considerable pain and I take meds for it_____I am having surgery on a RSD

foot tomorrow___so I sure need some prayers my way _it is only day surgery

but if it is not done right it can retrigger the RSD full-blown and I would

never get better again as too many blocks were done on me and that is

that____wishing u al well and painfreed days and nights....Peace Jazz

Jazz________Canada~~~

Health, Peace and Dreams____

1cq # is 11808881 add me.

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Hi Jazz,

Prayers (and prayers for courage) are sent your way. What kind of surgery

are you having on you foot? I have heard of RSD before but, when you are

feeling better, maybe you can enlighten me. Is it where the nerves burn when

going into your foot or, in my case, burn from the thigh down to the foot?

Good luck and get back to us and let us know how everything is going.

God Bless!

K.

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May yoiur son be SAFE_____and make it to a safe destination _JAZZ

At 09:20 PM 22/08/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: MsVVarrior@...

>

>In a message dated 8/22/99 3:01:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>maryk@... writes:

>

><< In fact I'm extremely worried about my son in Chorpus Christie facing

> hurricane Bret. He call this morning at 10:30 stating they were heading out

> towards San..I feel they made the move too late!! >>

>

Jazz________Canada~~~

Health, Peace and Dreams____

1cq # is 11808881 add me.

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Lets see how cclose my guess is on the mysterious (MCS)

Myofacial Cerfalgia Syndrome??????????

Muscular Tension Headach Syndrome??????????

J.

& The Hounds of Hoopeston

jkeith@...

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Ray,

thanks for this post. It's something I need to try. I too seem to always be

saying " I'm not the maid!! " And I get angry that my husband and child don't

pick up etc. I'll try your method, cuz mine is not working.

Thanks

Kathleen in Ca

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Ray,

thanks for this post. It's something I need to try. I too seem to always be

saying " I'm not the maid!! " And I get angry that my husband and child don't

pick up etc. I'll try your method, cuz mine is not working.

Thanks

Kathleen in Ca

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Kathleen, I hope your attempt at giving kindness to your family works as

well as it has for me.

One tremendous benefit, that I have observed, is the lowering of stress

levels in our home. Yelling at everyone, " I'm not the maid! " was exactly

what I was doing, too! It produced great stress for me, and terrible stress

for my family.

When I began using a kind word instead of a cross one, and concentrated on

being polite (saying " Thank You, " and " Please. " ),as well as asking carefully

worded requests (Could you, please, take your books and toys to your room? " )

my family's response was a little bit on the shocked side of things. It

resulted in a contagious polite-fest!

I probably said this before (I can't remember. LOL!), but I will not be

defined by my diseases! Demanding exact behavior in a belligerent fashion

was talking out of the pain. When I realized this ( Darwent has gently

pointed this out to me previously. Thank you, !) I was both appalled

and grief-stricken that I would let my diseases and pain hurt my family.

I can't guarantee that you will suddenly reverse the way you are handling

the pain overnight. It will probably be a course of ups and downs, until

you get enough " practice " to make the responses to your family's behavior a

consistent behavior pattern. However, I must say, that you will be

overwhelming pleased with the change in yourself, and the wonderful change

your family will undergo. I am much calmer and much less stress ridden.

Good luck!

Ray

>

> Ray,

> thanks for this post. It's something I need to try. I too seem to always

be

> saying " I'm not the maid!! " And I get angry that my husband and child

don't

> pick up etc. I'll try your method, cuz mine is not working.

> Thanks

> Kathleen in Ca

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Kathleen, I hope your attempt at giving kindness to your family works as

well as it has for me.

One tremendous benefit, that I have observed, is the lowering of stress

levels in our home. Yelling at everyone, " I'm not the maid! " was exactly

what I was doing, too! It produced great stress for me, and terrible stress

for my family.

When I began using a kind word instead of a cross one, and concentrated on

being polite (saying " Thank You, " and " Please. " ),as well as asking carefully

worded requests (Could you, please, take your books and toys to your room? " )

my family's response was a little bit on the shocked side of things. It

resulted in a contagious polite-fest!

I probably said this before (I can't remember. LOL!), but I will not be

defined by my diseases! Demanding exact behavior in a belligerent fashion

was talking out of the pain. When I realized this ( Darwent has gently

pointed this out to me previously. Thank you, !) I was both appalled

and grief-stricken that I would let my diseases and pain hurt my family.

I can't guarantee that you will suddenly reverse the way you are handling

the pain overnight. It will probably be a course of ups and downs, until

you get enough " practice " to make the responses to your family's behavior a

consistent behavior pattern. However, I must say, that you will be

overwhelming pleased with the change in yourself, and the wonderful change

your family will undergo. I am much calmer and much less stress ridden.

Good luck!

Ray

>

> Ray,

> thanks for this post. It's something I need to try. I too seem to always

be

> saying " I'm not the maid!! " And I get angry that my husband and child

don't

> pick up etc. I'll try your method, cuz mine is not working.

> Thanks

> Kathleen in Ca

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Hi ,

At 07:24 PM 8/22/99 -0500, you wrote:

>? I have heard of RSD before but, when you are

>feeling better, maybe you can enlighten me. Is it where the nerves burn when

>going into your foot or, in my case, burn from the thigh down to the foot?

For someone who just heard about RSD, you seem to be pretty quick

to come up with RSD symptoms. It does sound like you have got at least one.

But with arthritic like conditions (I would include FMS (another winning

number) in this too, because the RSD / rheumatoid arthritis (and some osteo

arthritis) / FMS & perhaps some other diagnoses can account for some

similar symptoms.

It is probably difficult to distinguish differences in some cases.

I am sure that there must be people around who are misdiagnosed, but it

does not necessarily matter, since often treatment is the same (for the

symptoms).

What counts is dealing with them and getting care that helps.

Ken

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