Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Finally got my copy of NT, I've been flipping through it here and there and having fun. Making chicken stock today, and I have a question ... she says that if you're using a whole chicken, to cut off the neck and the wings and cut those into smaller pieces. So the question is - why just the neck and wings? Is there something different about their composition that you want them in smaller pieces to extract? Or am I just reading the recipe completely wrong and she really means to cut the whole thing up? Thanks. Silly question, maybe, but I get curious. I probably ask " Why? " more now than I did when I was two. MFJ Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Speaking of chicken stock, the Washington Post food section had a long article on chicken stock. The author tried many recipes trying to come up with a " foolproof " recipe that would come out consistently every time. She is not after the same things NT people are after (she is entirely concerned with taste, and not at all nutrition). Here is the article if you want to read it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31598-2004Jan20.html There were a couple of items of interest that I wanted to share: one being a tip for removing scum more easily and the other a tip for a clearer stock... In the introductory part of the article she shares this: " In his cookbook 'Think Like a Chef,' chef and cookbook author Tom Colicchio provided the ingenious idea of boiling the chicken briskly for a few minutes before draining the pot and starting all over again. This tiny investment of time eliminates nearly all the scum, results in a clear, pristine stock and vastly diminishes the tedious task of skimming that would normally require nearly half an hour. " Later in the article when listing all issues, she elaborates: " SCUM: The foamy gray scum that surfaces during the first few minutes of simmering contains coagulated protein and blood. Though harmless, it's not exactly appetizing. Place a dump bowl next to the stove and use a skimmer or any flat, wide spoon, to remove the scum. To dramatically reduce the need to stand by the stove and skim scum for half an hour, I prefer to bring the chicken and enough water to cover to a boil for a few minutes. Drain the chicken, discarding the water and accompanying scum, rinse the chicken and wipe out the pot. Return the chicken to the pot, add the appropriate amount of fresh cold water and proceed with the stock recipe. (Such a short simmer is insufficient to coax any flavor from the meat and bones, so there is no loss of flavor.) SIMMER DON'T BOIL: Once the chicken and water to cover have been brought to a boil and the scum removed, and the chicken is back in the pot with the fresh batch of water, only the occasional bubble should creep to the surface. The agitation of a rolling boil breaks the components of the scum into tiny parts that are emulsified with the stock, rendering it cloudy and bitter. " I tried the basic stock recipe she offers, and followed the above tips, although I simmered it much longer than she suggests. I will say that it WAS much easier to dump the water and scum and start over, though you still have to skim SOME scum on the second boil. Also, the stock was much clearer than usual, maybe because I just barely simmered it as she suggested instead of letting boil somewhat vigorously. Jill Chicken Stock Finally got my copy of NT, I've been flipping through it here and there and having fun. Making chicken stock today, and I have a question ... she says that if you're using a whole chicken, to cut off the neck and the wings and cut those into smaller pieces. So the question is - why just the neck and wings? Is there something different about their composition that you want them in smaller pieces to extract? Or am I just reading the recipe completely wrong and she really means to cut the whole thing up? Thanks. Silly question, maybe, but I get curious. I probably ask " Why? " more now than I did when I was two. MFJ Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 At 02:26 PM 1/30/04 -0500, you wrote: > Speaking of chicken stock, the Washington Post food section had a long > article on chicken stock. The author tried many recipes trying to come up > " " recipe that would come out consistently every time. She > is not after the same things NT people are after (she is entirely concerned > with taste, and not at all nutrition). I saw that article too - I just skimmed (no pun intended) through the beginning of it. I've always made my own stocks, but generally never " straight " chicken - it's always been a mish mash of meat scraps, bones, and veggies ... simmer for several days. LOL always tastes great, but any nutritional value was probably cooked right out after the first couple of days. So since I needed some straight chicken stock instead of mish-mash stock, figured I'd try it the Sally way. Which led to the question. , who is still wondering about the difference in those part. More gelatin, maybe? MFJ Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 > What I need to know is if I boil it, is it still safe to use? I have > had food poisoning twice in my life and do not want to experience that > again and more importantly, I do not want my family to have that awful > experience! Ann, Bring it to the boil and simmer. It's fine. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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