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>Is there any reason I can't use pork to make jerky? It's not something

>you hear about often, and every time I've heard of it or seen recipes for

>it, it involved cured ham. But I can't think of a reason not to do it

>with non-cured pork ... is that just me?

>

>Also along those lines, is there a good way to do it with ground meat? Or

>am I basically talking pemmican there? (I've never made jerky with

>anything other than sliced meat.)

>

>Thanks!

I've never heard of anyone making jerky from pork. For ground meat, you can

by a gun similar to those ones used to squeeze out designs on cakes in

which you can fill with seasoned ground meat and squeeze out either sticks

or flat pieces of jerky. I've never used one but I know some people who do

and the jerky turns out okay.

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>Is there any reason I can't use pork to make jerky? It's not something

>you hear about often, and every time I've heard of it or seen recipes for

>it, it involved cured ham. But I can't think of a reason not to do it

>with non-cured pork ... is that just me?

I tried it ... didn't like it. It had an off taste.

>Also along those lines, is there a good way to do it with ground meat? Or

>am I basically talking pemmican there? (I've never made jerky with

>anything other than sliced meat.)

I made it with hamburger mixed with kefir and spices ... came out good.

A lot of traditional jerky makers are using ground meat now. It may

be more iffy in regards to ecoli, so using a good probiotic in the mix

might be worthwhile (the bulk of jerky makers use nitrates for this

reason).

-- Heidi

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At 04:09 PM 2/4/04 -0800, you wrote:

>>Is there any reason I can't use pork to make jerky? It's not something

>>you hear about often, and every time I've heard of it or seen recipes for

>>it, it involved cured ham. But I can't think of a reason not to do it

>>with non-cured pork ... is that just me?

>

>I tried it ... didn't like it. It had an off taste.

Did you do it straight, or marinate it? I always marinate when making

jerky just for the taste fun.

>

>>Also along those lines, is there a good way to do it with ground meat? Or

>>am I basically talking pemmican there? (I've never made jerky with

>>anything other than sliced meat.)

>

>I made it with hamburger mixed with kefir and spices ... came out good.

>A lot of traditional jerky makers are using ground meat now. It may

>be more iffy in regards to ecoli, so using a good probiotic in the mix

>might be worthwhile (the bulk of jerky makers use nitrates for this

>reason).

Okay, can you be more specific about this? Bear in mind that I currently

possess three dehydrators, two of which have excellent temperature control,

so I wouldn't have to play games with quirky ovens. So does that

disqualify the probiotic idea? And just as a matter of interest for the

newbie, please define probiotic in that context.

So for specific starters ... how much hamburger to how much kefir? And

how did you form it? Mix it up and slice it (as much as ground meat WILL

slice)? Or squirt it somehow (i.e. the suggestion about using a pastry

squirter - personally, I prefer using a spritz-cookie squirter, sounds like

that might work for ground stuff?)

MFJ

It's finally happened. I'm slightly mad. Oh dear. ~Queen

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>>I tried it ... didn't like it. It had an off taste.

>

>Did you do it straight, or marinate it? I always marinate when making

>jerky just for the taste fun.

I always marinate jerky. Pork just doesn't taste right to me. Unless

it is bacon.

>Okay, can you be more specific about this? Bear in mind that I currently

>possess three dehydrators, two of which have excellent temperature control,

>so I wouldn't have to play games with quirky ovens. So does that

>disqualify the probiotic idea? And just as a matter of interest for the

>newbie, please define probiotic in that context.

I wrote a whole chapter on it ... it is in the files section for download,

titled " Jerky " . The kefir-marinade just makes it taste wonderful, sort

of like pepperoni. Also tenderizes it. The hamburger version isn't in the PDF

tho.

I don't know that the probiotics

survive the dehydration ... maybe they do, maybe not. But my definition

of " probiotic " in that context is that kefir kills bad germs in general,

and since jerky CAN become contaminated with say, ecoli, and it doesn't get

hot enough to kill the ecoli, using a kefir marinade adds some measure

of safety. A dehydrator filled with hamburger is a great incubator

for bad germs, if there are any in the hamburger. So I fill my hamburger

with kefir.

Now there are folks here who eat raw hamburger anyway, so you

pays your money and makes your choices.

> So for specific starters ... how much hamburger to how much kefir? And

>how did you form it? Mix it up and slice it (as much as ground meat WILL

>slice)? Or squirt it somehow (i.e. the suggestion about using a pastry

>squirter - personally, I prefer using a spritz-cookie squirter, sounds like

>that might work for ground stuff?)

I mix in some Penzy's sausage spice (their measurements: 1 T per lb)

and some kefir (kefiili ini my cause) til it looks good. Then put it in

a tray that comes with my dehydrator ... just pat it in there. It is a tray

for making fruit leather, so it doesn't leak. When it is dry I cut it into

strips with kitchen shears -- some people form it with these little

jerky-squirters but that seemed like too much work. I don't like work.

Any flavor of Penzy's sausage seasoning tastes good to me.

But salt/powdered garlic /pepper mix is good too.

-- Heidi

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At 08:31 PM 2/4/04 -0800, you wrote:

> I wrote a whole chapter on it ... it is in the files section for download,

> " " . The kefir-marinade just makes it taste wonderful, sort

> of like pepperoni. Also tenderizes it. The hamburger version isn't in the

>PDF tho.

Oh, sure, now you actually want me to do my HOMEWORK? <g>

Cool, thanks!!

MFJ

It's finally happened. I'm slightly mad. Oh dear. ~Queen

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