Weight Loss Help

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I've come to the realization that (gasp!) I need to go on a diet for the

first time in my life. It hit me two weeks ago when I couldn't zip up my

favorite pair of olive green leather jeans...TRAGEDY! I've always been on

the thin side, but a hop on the scale revealed that I need to lose 10-15

pounds. I guess I'll have to lay off the pizza...I've been traveling a lot

these days, so it's been harder than usual to stick to NT.

So, I'm buying " The Warrior Diet " and Atkins--(which Atkins book should I

buy, btw?) and plan to combine them in some way. I'm not sure if I'm

willing to give up potatoes and rice (especially if I don't have to in order

to lose weight). Does anyone successfully combine Atkins and Warrior?

Could this be dangerous? I'm actually looking for a way of eating that I

can stick with forever, not just for a quick drop of poundage.

I want to stop the weight gain before I have kids. My mother (although a

different body type) has been on unsuccessful diets for all of her adult

life. She's now on South Beach--I haven't read the book, but it seems WAY

too lowfat to me. Anyway, I want to avoid her struggle, if possible.

TIA,

[Guest guest]

Because you have so little to lose I would suggest trying to eat only whole

natural foods. Go light on the high starch stuff like potatoes and avoid

stuff in cans and boxes as much as possible.

Make your pizza at home and use pepperoni for the " crust. " Almost anything

else should be " legal. " Or, if you can't do that just scrape the goodies off

the crust, toss the crust and enjoy the rest.

Don't even think about trying to lose it in a few days. Three or four months

is a reasonable goal. The less you have to lose the longer it seems to take.

Judith Alta

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From: [mailto:jc137@...]

Hi all,

I've come to the realization that (gasp!) I need to go on a diet for the

first time in my life. It hit me two weeks ago when I couldn't zip up my

favorite pair of olive green leather jeans...TRAGEDY! I've always been on

the thin side, but a hop on the scale revealed that I need to lose 10-15

pounds. I guess I'll have to lay off the pizza...I've been traveling a lot

these days, so it's been harder than usual to stick to NT.

So, I'm buying " The Warrior Diet " and Atkins--(which Atkins book should I

buy, btw?) and plan to combine them in some way. I'm not sure if I'm

willing to give up potatoes and rice (especially if I don't have to in order

to lose weight). Does anyone successfully combine Atkins and Warrior?

Could this be dangerous? I'm actually looking for a way of eating that I

can stick with forever, not just for a quick drop of poundage.

I want to stop the weight gain before I have kids. My mother (although a

different body type) has been on unsuccessful diets for all of her adult

life. She's now on South Beach--I haven't read the book, but it seems WAY

too lowfat to me. Anyway, I want to avoid her struggle, if possible.

TIA,

[Guest guest]

At 10:34 AM 1/29/2004, you wrote:

>). Does anyone successfully combine Atkins and Warrior?

>Could this be dangerous? I'm actually looking for a way of eating that I

>can stick with forever, not just for a quick drop of poundage.

Actually Ori recommends " eating fewer " carbs on the WD

if you want to lose weight. You probably will eat fewer carbs

anyway, if you follow his eating cycle == greens first,

then protein, (and I stick vegies in here too) then carbs, and no sugary stuff.

By the time you get to " carbs " you aren't very hungry anyway.

But if you do the WD and all the excercise he recommends,

you'll probably lose weight even WITH the carbs. I've been

losing weight, albeit slowly, and gaining muscle, without

cutting back on carbs. I'd guess I'd lose weight faster

if I cut the carbs, but I'm not that motivated and I'm

curious to see what happens.

As for sticking with it -- it is a VERY easy way to live, and

has advantages far beyond the weight loss issue. Feast/fasting

seems to help the body handle stress better, age slower, and

fixes blood sugar issues ... and you don't have to work

nearly so hard to feed yourself.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

<<< Does anyone successfully combine Atkins and Warrior?

Could this be dangerous? >>>

I had about 30lbs to lose and started on Atkins. I lost about 10

over about a 2-week period when I decided to try the WD because I

missed potatoes, bread, crackers for pate, and beer. I ended up

losing an average of about 0.5 lbs per week when I did the WD. When

I was getting really close to fitting into something I wanted to, I'd

skip the carb portion of my evening meal for several days. I didn't

notice anything different in my energy levels the next day. Toward

the end of my weight loss period, I'd eat " normal " WD meals every

night except Tues and Thurs when I'd skip carbs. For maintenance, I

eat normal WD meals, except the night after I overindulge when eating

at a friend or relative's house or traveling, I skip the carbs. That

has kept the weight about the same and my % fat on the tanita has

dropped 2% since stopping the weight loss phase.

My husband only needed to lose 10 lbs. He suffered through the

Atkins diet for 1.5 weeks to get rid of it fast and then switched

over to the WD for maintenance.

FWIW,

Betsy

[Guest guest]

>> which Atkins book should I

buy, btw? <<

Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, the 2002 edition. Since you have so very little

to lose, you might also want to pick up " Atkins for Life, " which discusses the

plan for those who don't need to lose weight.

I can't speak to combining Warrior Diet and Atkins, because Atkins manages blood

sugar with regular meals, and from what I've read on this list, WD manages it by

a controlled " feasting/fasting cycle. " Atkins calls for the permanent

elimination of refined grains, sugar and things similar to sugar such as high

fructose corn syrup, and transfats. The carb level for each person is arrived at

individually. As far as I know WD doesn't limit carbs, and I'm not sure that it

restricts WHAT you eat. Someone else can address that, I am sure.

Since " Atkins for Life " doesn't dictate any kind of fixed carb level (unlike the

weight loss phase), I see no reason that someone couldn't combine general Atkins

principles (deriving your carb level individually and sticking to it, no refined

grains, no sugar type things) with a WD approach. But the Atkins weight loss

plan is based on not going six waking hours without eating, and eating three

meals a day at regular intervals, which is absolutely contrary to WD.

I'd probably pick whichever one appeals most to you and giving it a try, instead

of trying to combine them. I personally like to eat three meals a day and

wouldn't like to do the " feast/fast " thing, and eating carby things like bread

or desserts triggers binging in me, so for me Atkins is the definite choice. I

also think that Atkins is a better choice for someone with a lot of weight to

lose.

WD would be suitable IMO for someone with less weight to lose, or for whom the

" feasting/fasting " cycle is appealing.

Christie

[Guest guest]

Thank you to everyone who replied to my query. I'll let you know what " the

plan " ends up being and my progress on it.

Best,

[Guest guest]

--- <jc137@...> wrote: >

> So, I'm buying " The Warrior Diet " and Atkins--(which

> Atkins book should I

> buy, btw?) and plan to combine them in some way.

> I'm not sure if I'm

> willing to give up potatoes and rice (especially if

> I don't have to in order

> to lose weight). Does anyone successfully combine

> Atkins and Warrior?

> Could this be dangerous? I'm actually looking for a

> way of eating that I

> can stick with forever, not just for a quick drop of

> poundage.

>

Hi

The book Atkins for Life may be a good place for you

to start. It will help you reduce your carbs, and

choose the carbs you do it wisely, for minimum blood

sugar impact, maximum nutrient value and for health.

I believe you could easily combine this with WD

Jo

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[Guest guest]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:34:25 -0500

" " <jc137@...> wrote:

>So, I'm buying " The Warrior Diet " and Atkins--(which Atkins book should I

>buy, btw?) and plan to combine them in some way. I'm not sure if I'm

>willing to give up potatoes and rice (especially if I don't have to in order

>to lose weight). Does anyone successfully combine Atkins and Warrior?

>Could this be dangerous? I'm actually looking for a way of eating that I

>can stick with forever, not just for a quick drop of poundage.

Pick one. Having been on several low carb plans (including Atkins) I

don't think you can combine the two successfully. About the only

similarity will be that you will eat " less " carbs on the WD if you want

to lose weight, but that doesn't necessarily translate into low carb.

You need the carbs if you adopt the entire warrior approach. And if you

don't want to give up potatoes and rice the WD would be the way to go.

I've lost weight both ways. But I like my carbs, which is one reason I

took to the WD. Also, when I started the WD I was on a cyclical carb

diet, meaning I was low carb during the week and high carb one or two

days on the weekend. It was quite nice actually from a social standpoint

and it did work. But once I found I could eat carbs every day and still

lose fat and gain muscle on the WD, the decision was made.

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