Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 In a message dated 2/3/04 7:36:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: > As a rough estimate my WD breakdown normally runs 20% protein, 50% fat, > 30% carbs. If I was trying to lose weight *quickly* I would lower the > carbs and raise the fat. Or rather, I wouldn't stuff myself with so many > carbs after I am already full, LOL! But have to keep that metabolism > high :-) That's probably similar to my menu. On the menu for carbs tonight are 3 pieces of sourdough rye bread, 2 hamburger buns (Ezekiel) and 2 cups dry oats. Of course one of the bread slices accompanies bacon and eggs and butter, two accompany butter and cheese, and each hamburger bun has butter and a half-pound hamburger, and the oats will have a stick of butter and 4 egg whites. I'll also have a couple bowls of ice cream, which have maple syrup and honey, but the bulk of which are cream, followed by egg yolks. (This is a moderately high-carb day for me, but it's usually somewhat in that vicinity.) When I calculated by caloric intake a couple months ago, I didn't divvy up into macronutrients, but I did find that over 87% of my calories come from animal products, even with a couple pieces of bread and potatoes. That's about 260 grams of non-fiber carbs, though I don't feel like calculating my other macronutrients. > What I have noticed in the past on the WD is that without a significant > amount of carbs I get hungry earlier the next day and my energy level > isn't as high. I dunno. Maybe it is just the extra fat on the carbs that > makes the difference. I use a full stick of butter on two large yams. At > any rate it is all very Interesting. From my perspective, since I lift weights, I want to store glycogen. I don't think the body will store glycogen efficiently without carbs, though it could make it from fat and protein, my understanding is it doesn't do that much. The body can hold some 400g glycogen (1600 calories) so your carb intake is going to depend on how much you'll actually use of that. If you're burning 1600 calories a day lifting weights, you'll rapidly encounter a carbohydrate deficit on even a moderately low-carb diet. I'm guessing I tend to burn 500-1000 calories, depending on the workout, 5 days a week, so I'm going to want to eat about that in carbs. If I were doing aerobics or higher-rep sets and perhaps with my non-press kettlebell exercises I might want to lower the carbs and go heavier on the fat. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:36:08 -0500 Idol <Idol@...> wrote: >- > >Do you have a rough idea how many grams of carbs you're eating, as well as >how many grams of protein and fat? On a per-calorie basis I don't see how >someone who's supposed to basically fill up on meat and fat and only then >have carbs could eat as high-carb a diet as people eating a low-fat diet, >or a refined-carb-and-bad-fat diet, but I'd be curious to hear. , I doubt I'm eating as many carbs as those on low fat diet, but my understanding is that the typical SAD diet gets about 40% of its calories from fat. As a rough estimate my WD breakdown normally runs 20% protein, 50% fat, 30% carbs. If I was trying to lose weight *quickly* I would lower the carbs and raise the fat. Or rather, I wouldn't stuff myself with so many carbs after I am already full, LOL! But have to keep that metabolism high :-) What I have noticed in the past on the WD is that without a significant amount of carbs I get hungry earlier the next day and my energy level isn't as high. I dunno. Maybe it is just the extra fat on the carbs that makes the difference. I use a full stick of butter on two large yams. At any rate it is all very Interesting. Abolish the FDA!! http://tinyurl.com/25nu8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:04:24 EST ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote: >That's probably similar to my menu. On the menu for carbs tonight are 3 >pieces of sourdough rye bread, 2 hamburger buns (Ezekiel) and 2 cups dry oats. Of >course one of the bread slices accompanies bacon and eggs and butter, two >accompany butter and cheese, and each hamburger bun has butter and a half-pound >hamburger, and the oats will have a stick of butter and 4 egg whites. I'll >also have a couple bowls of ice cream, which have maple syrup and honey, but the >bulk of which are cream, followed by egg yolks. (This is a moderately >high-carb day for me, but it's usually somewhat in that vicinity.) > For the record Suze thinks that you and I are pigs, LOL! But since she comes from an anorexic background I think we should take that comment with a grain of salt <bsg> Also, should we ever get together for dinner, I think I will let you pick up the tab <weg> Abolish the FDA!! http://tinyurl.com/25nu8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 >For the record Suze thinks that you and I are pigs, LOL! But since she >comes from an anorexic background I think we should take that comment >with a grain of salt <bsg> alrighty then! i spent one year or less undereating and the other 39 pigging out or eating " normally " - that hardly suggests an " anorexic background " . having said that...yeh...you guys are gluttons from my perspective - even now at a time when i'm eating quite liberally. " anarchicly " ? <weg> >Also, should we ever get together for dinner, I think I will let you >pick up the tab <weg> if it's a half decent restaurant, i doubt either one of you would be able to afford that tab in this lifetime. LOL Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 @@@@@@@@@@ Chris: and the oats will have a stick of butter and 4 egg whites. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ okaaaay! then that nullifies your post about adding egg whites to your oats without any flavor compromise--i don't recall you mentioning the " stick of butter " !! geez, with a stick of butter in your oats you could mask the flavor of nigella sprouts*!!!! by the way, i didn't think the kind of butter us WAPFers eat comes in " sticks " ! (unless you're just using it as an abstract unit of measure...) Mike SE Pennsylvania *nigella sprouts are the most unpalatable food to ever enter my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:14:19 -0500 " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> wrote: >>For the record Suze thinks that you and I are pigs, LOL! But since she >>comes from an anorexic background I think we should take that comment >>with a grain of salt <bsg> > >alrighty then! i spent one year or less undereating and the other 39 pigging >out or eating " normally " - that hardly suggests an " anorexic background " . Okay, my bad. I should have said Suze has some anorexia in her background. That softens it and leaves the time frame wide open rather than suggesting it dominated your past. But I did get this little tidbit from one of your posts, something you had never mentioned to me personally...hehehehe > >having said that...yeh...you guys are gluttons from my perspective That reminds me of what my Parish Priest likes to say right before starting the annual Lenten fast, " mind your own plate " <bg> - even >now at a time when i'm eating quite liberally. " anarchicly " ? <weg> > and how about " anarchistically " or " anarchically " . Mike from Pennsylvania, what do you think? LOL! > >>Also, should we ever get together for dinner, I think I will let you >>pick up the tab <weg> > >if it's a half decent restaurant, i doubt either one of you would be able to >afford that tab in this lifetime. I guess we will be going dutch at our next dinner date <weg> Abolish the FDA!! http://tinyurl.com/25nu8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 >>having said that...yeh...you guys are gluttons from my perspective > >That reminds me of what my Parish Priest likes to say right before >starting the annual Lenten fast, " mind your own plate " <bg> yeh, well i bet you weren't posting your extensive menus on the internet for others to " mind " <weg> >>if it's a half decent restaurant, i doubt either one of you would >be able to >>afford that tab in this lifetime. > >I guess we will be going dutch at our next dinner date <weg> well, i will be more than happy to pick up the tab..........if you are fasting :-D Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 - >As a rough estimate my WD breakdown normally runs 20% protein, 50% fat, >30% carbs. Interesting. I think my breakdown's more like 20/70/10 at this point, but I'm not actually sure. >What I have noticed in the past on the WD is that without a significant >amount of carbs I get hungry earlier the next day and my energy level >isn't as high. Interesting. Though I'm not on the WD (yet?) I do notice the opposite on those occasions when I get close to it, which would tend to suggest that even the WD won't meanintfully raise my tolerance for carbs, unfortunately. Still, I'll have to try it one of these days. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 In a message dated 2/3/04 9:27:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: > For the record Suze thinks that you and I are pigs, LOL! But since she > comes from an anorexic background I think we should take that comment > with a grain of salt <bsg> Oh, I take everything salted heavily :-) Especially potatoes. > Also, should we ever get together for dinner, I think I will let you > pick up the tab <weg> Don't worry; I usually try to stuff myself before eating dinner with other people so I don't feel guilty cleaning out their fridge. We should just invite and have him take up the bill. If it runs high, he can just sell one of his 17 yachts to pay the bill ;-) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 In a message dated 2/4/04 1:03:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: > >having said that...yeh...you guys are gluttons from my perspective > > That reminds me of what my Parish Priest likes to say right before > starting the annual Lenten fast, " mind your own plate " <bg> That, and gluttony has no relation to the absolute amount of food. If Suze ate the way I eat, *she* would be a glutton, but I'm not. Last night my mom cajoled me into playing pool for an hour and a half at the bar down the street, so I didn't have time to eat my oatmeal or grilled cheese before bed, so all I had was four eggs, 6 slices bacon, toast and butter, 2 half-pound cheese burgers in buttered and toasted Ezekiel buns, and 3 bowls of ice cream, for dinner, and I went to bed moderately hungry and was hungry all day today. Suze can call me a glutton when I lose my six-pack :-) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 At 04:51 PM 2/4/2004, you wrote: >Don't worry; I usually try to stuff myself before eating dinner with other >people so I don't feel guilty cleaning out their fridge. We should just >invite > and have him take up the bill. If it runs high, he can just sell one >of his 17 yachts to pay the bill ;-) he only has 16 yachts now. or rather, he still *has* 17, but one is allocated to pay off my mortgage. so, he can sell one of his 16 yachts to pay your tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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