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In a message dated 2/7/04 11:32:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jaltak@... writes:

> It's probably a toss-up.

This is one example of what I was saying about the need for experience. You

can certainly make judgments based on science, etc, but it seems like people

who don't do drugs or haven't do drugs quite often make judgments on their

pre-conceived notions, which rarely reflect the reality of drug use.

Now, if there was some scientific study that compared an NT diet to a fast

food diet, and included four groups, one of each diet with and without marijuana

use, or used a gradation of marijuana use (once nightly, one on weekend

nights, etc), that would be fantastic.

But in the absence of such, I really don't see how someone who doesn't smoke

pot, has never smoked pot, and doesn't associate with people who do, could

even begin to wager a guess.

I *don't* smoke pot. But I have. I've smoked cigarettes. I've eaten fast

food.

I think everyone affects people differently, but I can confidently say that

for myself, the fast food diet would be worse on my RESPIRATORY system than

smoking pot, *and* cigarettes. And, as I've told before, this is based on

personal experience:

When I was 14 or 15 I was smoking a pack of Marlboros a day, and I had a

horrible, chronic hacking cough for a couple months. I was also drinking two

tall

glasses of coca cola, first thing in the morning, and otherwise stuffing

myself full of junk food. An herbalist told my mother to have me eliminate the

Coke, cut the sugar, and drink some tea. The hacking cough went away and never

came back, even though I had no decline in my tobacco use whatsoever. (Or

marijuana use, for that matter).

To compare the other physiological effects is a joke. The great thing about

such an NT/fastfood/marijuana study would be that when people got stoned on the

NT diet, they'd fulfill their " munchies " with healthy food. I'd like to see

the way that would work. But anyway, my personal experience is that a diet high

in sodas and devoid of healthy fats caused disaster for my mind and body,

while smoking pot had a very moderate effect on either even in extreme excess.

Price made the point that mental disorders are largely malnutrition. Eating lots

of displacing foods causes malnutrition; smoking pot doesn't.

While it might sound perfectly logical to someone who's never used pot to

equate it with fast food, to someone who has, and who knows what kinds of

effects

it has, it sounds preposterous. Perhaps the development of this thread will

prove me wrong, but so far we're seeing a dividing line between the opinion of

people who have used pot and people who haven't, and I suspect that is

indicative of which folks have a basis for judgment.

Chris

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No way is that a toss up!

From: " Judith Alta " <jaltak@...>

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:27:54 -0500

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Subject: More harmful?

It's probably a toss-up.

Let's get rid of Jack LaLanne. It's been a long time since his name has

shown up in a post.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

From: Byron [mailto:anthony.byron@...]

What is more harmfull.

1) marijuana

2) Mcdonalds/KFC

?????

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> What is more harmfull.

>

> 1) marijuana

>

> 2) Mcdonalds/KFC

>

JUst the one won't hurt. Over the long term, probably

the junk food is more harmful! Mind you, KFC tastes

good!

Jo

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