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Well I would not find a bearded women attractive. Maybe if I was a fantasy

dwarf like in lord of the rings.

By lookin after themselves I mean not getting obese, washing themsvles to be

clean and not bad smelly ect

I prefer women without makeup.

So by taking care of themselves I mean not doing many things that make them

look 90 when they 30

So I don't mean a dolled up hollywood glamour who spends 4 hours doing

themselves up to go out.

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From: Helen East [mailto:helen@...]

Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: OT Girlfriends was Jack LaLanne/Sex

> Nothing wrong with 30 year old asian women mate. ( well atleast the ones

who

> take care of themselves ect )

What exactly do you mean by women who " take care of themselves " ?

Usually this is used to mean that they don't keep slim, remove facial hair

and other hair, don't wear makeup and don't keep their hair all nice, etc.

I hope you're not implying that there is " something wrong with women who

don't take care of themselves " in this way.....

Helen

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I had a mate who was like a bug bear. So hairy. I was shocked 1st time I saw

him with his shirt off.

He started dating this girl and she refused to have sex with him until he

waxed his entire upper body ( except eyebrows and hair on head ) haha

So he got waxed, slept with her. Then they broke up lol

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From: ChrisMasterjohn@... [mailto:ChrisMasterjohn@...]

Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2004 7:38 AM

Subject: Re: OT Girlfriends was Jack LaLanne/Sex

In a message dated 2/9/04 10:04:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

helen@... writes:

> Usually this is used to mean that they don't keep slim, remove facial hair

> and other hair, don't wear makeup and don't keep their hair all nice, etc.

> I hope you're not implying that there is " something wrong with women who

> don't take care of themselves " in this way.....

I don't think there is " something wrong " with such women, but can you

seriously object to someone using such as personal dating criteria?

I had two girlfriends whom I convinced to stop shaving in part for

ideological reasons, in part because it didn't bother me. (One of them had

decided the

same previously, but had reversed her decision based on peer pressure). Now

I'd prefer shaven, because my tastes have changed, and I'm entitled to them.

Both women and men have desires and attractions that are in large part

visual, and there's no reason two partners shouldn't put in some effort to

satisfy

each other in that way. I've put in a lot of effort to gaining a better

physique, and I think most girls would appreciate their partner doing such,

just as

I would appreciate effort on the part of my (hypothetical) partner to do the

same.

I really, really, really hope I don't have a hairy back when I get older.

But if I do, and my wife preferred I get it waxed, I'd do it. Why? Because

it

would make me sexier, and I want to be sexy for my partner, just like most

women want to be sexy for their partner. What's wrong with that?

Chris

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>I've fallen in love before. I don't think we acted stupid in any way, but we

>grew apart after a while, and we held on to what we *had* for a long time

>after we'd lost it. We went about three years and should have ended it after 9

>months.

Chris:

The average " falling in love " time period is something like 4 months ... if

it goes on a year you are lucky. Which doesn't mean a couple

can't have a good marriage and have fun and really like and really love

each other ... it's just that the " in love " state is unsustainable long term,

at least at any high level.

Some people really get addicted to being totally in love, which is

sad, because you have to go from affair to affair. It's kind of like

women who LOVE babies but aren't much interested in toddlers or

older kids.

-- Heidi

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> I've only had one girlfriend, but I never had any trouble with her

> (until I found out that she'd been lying about her age, but that's

> another story). She was from China, though.

@@@@@@@@

A little surprising for a guy with a fleet of yachts! You must be

especially noble (Libertarian role model?) not to parlay that in your

favor in your gender-based interactions...

:)

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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Anton wrote:

> @@@@@@@ :

>> I've only had one girlfriend, but I never had any trouble with her

>> (until I found out that she'd been lying about her age, but that's

>> another story). She was from China, though.

> @@@@@@@@

>

> A little surprising for a guy with a fleet of yachts! You must be

> especially noble (Libertarian role model?) not to parlay that in your

> favor in your gender-based interactions...

I'm saving up for number 18. Can't afford to be frittering my money away

on women.

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