Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I would like to comment on the over-training. IMO, it is almost impossible to overtrain. You can over-reach (short term - trying to do too much with being adapted), but what is thought of as overtraining is almost always under-restoration and/or improper sequencing of the workload. How many wrestlers actively think of restoration and factor in restorative means to training. Very few. The other thing is the proper cycling of volume and 'intensity'. The point is - there is a place for 40 m sprints, 400 m sprints and 1,000 m sprints in much athletic training. Sure you can't run as hard at 1,000, but that isn't the point. Otherwise nobody would run further than 60-80 m, right? Yes, most wrestlers are over-trained, but it is because before big meets they do not allow for tapering and " superadaptation " to take place. They are over-coached, but it is just because of timing. If they would stop three weeks earlier and taper into the meet they wouldn't be overtrained. IMO it is not a matter of volume, but timing. [Mod: The below information is relevant: European Journal of Sport Science, March 2006; 6(1): 1/14: Many recent papers have referred to the work of Kreider et al. (1998) for the definitions of OT and OR. / Overreaching: an accumulation of training and/ or non-training stress resulting in short-term decrement in performance capacity with or without related physiological and psychological signs and symptoms of maladaptation in which restoration of performance capacity may take from several days to several weeks. / Overtraining: an accumulation of training and/ or non-training stress resulting in long-term decrement in performance capacity with or without related physiological and psychological signs and symptoms of maladaptation in which restoration of performance capacity may take several weeks or months. As stated by several authors (Lehmann et al., 1999a; Budgett et al., 2000; Halson & Jeukendrup, 2004) these definitions suggest that the difference between OT and OR is the amount of time needed for performance restoration and not the type or duration of training stress or degree of impairment. These definitions also imply that there may be an absence of psychological signs associated with the conditions. As it is possible to recover from a state of OR within a 2-week period (Lehmann et al., 1999a; Halson et al., 2002; Jeukendrup et al., 1992; Kreider et al., 1998; Steinacker et al., 2000), it may be argued that this condition is a relatively normal and harmless stage of the training process....... OR is often utilized by athletes during a typical training cycle to enhance performance. Intensified training can result in a decline in performance; however, when appropriate periods of recovery are provided, a ‘‘supercompensation’’ effect may occur with the athlete exhibiting an enhanced performance when compared to baseline levels. This process is often used when going on a training camp, and will lead to a temporary performance decrement, which is followed by improved performance. In this situation, the physiological responses will compensate the training-related stress (Steinacker et al., 2004). This form of short-term OR can also be called ‘‘functional OR’’. When this intensified training continues, the athletes can evolve into a state of extreme OR or ‘‘non-functional OR’’, that will lead to a stagnation or decrease in performance which will not resume for several weeks or months. However, eventually these athletes will be able to fully recover after sufficient rest. ‘‘Non-functional OR’’ emphasizes that the evolution on the ‘‘OT continuum’’ is not only ‘‘quantitatively’’ determined (i.e. by the increase in training volume) but that also ‘‘qualitative’’ changes occur (e.g. signs and symptoms of psychological and/ or endocrine distress). In these definitions ‘‘overtraining’’ is used as a verb, a process of intensified training with possible outcomes of short-term overreaching (functional OR); extreme overreaching (non-functional OR); or OTS. By using the expression ‘‘syndrome’’ we emphasize the multifactorial etiology and acknowledge that exercise (training) is not necessarily the sole causative factor of the syndrome.] Rob Barrese wrote: > Nick I'm not sure. Intensity is such an intrinsic quality that it is > often hard to put words to. This began over the statement " you can > work long or you can work hard, you can't work both. " I can sprint > 400m but I cannot sprint the same 1000m... I can go all out during a > single wrestling meet or I can wrestle my partner for 60 straight > minutes during practice. The later would be considered conditioning > within the sport to the wrestling community. > > I am not sure how sees this? I know (from personal experience) > that wrestlers often get the rep of being " intense, 24/7, " but when > you look closely at the quality of what you are getting over time it > is not the same. I refer back to the previous examples. In actuality > if I refer back to my wrestling career I recall trying very hard to > maintain intensity, only to have my intensity gradually drop and my > form steadily decrease. It would be physiologically impossible to > duplicate the intensity of a single match for 60 > straight minutes without rest. And what wrestler would not look back > over their career and not consider the fact most of the time we over > trained? > Just my thoughts and feelings as an ex-wrestler/grappler and my > experience training wrestlers. > > Rob Barrese > PA, USA > > -- Hobman Saskatoon, CANADA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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