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--- Helen East <helen@...> wrote: >

THanks for the info helen - I will check them out.

> Also I wonder if you use

> http://www.prizechoice.co.uk/ who do a lot of raw

> meat pet products?

That's the Anglian Meat Company (or some such). They

seem to be the only producers of raw pet food in this

country. YOu can probably buy their stuff in most

large pet stores eg pet city, if they have a freezer

section. It's around 54p per pack of meat, which does

my cats 1-2 days. So it's not dear.

However, they have dandruff problems, so this is

obviously not something they should eat exclusively.

I'm going to start giving raw egg. They won't eat

beef or pork fat from joints, steaks, stocks etc, and

won't eat olive oil. They also won't eat chicken

wings. They love tinned food and biscuits. Typical!

Jo

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Hi,

> > Also I wonder if you use

> > http://www.prizechoice.co.uk/ who do a lot of raw

> > meat pet products?

>

> That's the Anglian Meat Company (or some such). They

> seem to be the only producers of raw pet food in this

> country. YOu can probably buy their stuff in most

> large pet stores eg pet city, if they have a freezer

> section. It's around 54p per pack of meat, which does

> my cats 1-2 days. So it's not dear.

Thanks for the info. It seems pretty cheap actually. I haven't noticed

their stuff around but will check out our pet shop.

> However, they have dandruff problems, so this is

> obviously not something they should eat exclusively.

Ok thanks again. My cat has dandruff, more so if she gets stressed. I

haven't had much luck clearing it up - I've tried supplementing with oils,

but she turns her nose up if her packet food is adulterated in any way.

> I'm going to start giving raw egg.

This is as far as I've got so far with the raw food. Happily, she loves egg

once she remembers that it's OK. This means I have to put some packet food

in the middle of it so she accidently gets some on her tongue.... I have

tried mixing small amounts of raw in with wet food - not a success - and

also coating it in kibble crumbs - ditto. So my strategy is to start with

cooked food and progressively cook it less and less.

Have you tried kefir? She'll lick it and raw milk off my fingers but won't

drink it. But perhaps cats shouldn't be drinking goat's milk.

Helen

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--- Helen East <helen@...> wrote: > Hi,

> Ok thanks again. My cat has dandruff, more so if

> she gets stressed. I

> haven't had much luck clearing it up - I've tried

> supplementing with oils,

> but she turns her nose up if her packet food is

> adulterated in any way.

>

I really don't want to get into buying high quality

CLO and such like for them - I don't spend that sort

of money on myself! Anyway, I melted some beef fat

(from the stock I made) and mixed it with the chicken

leftovers (from the stock I made) and they seem to be

eating it. So mixing it in seems to be the way to go.

They wouldn't eat a raw egg I put on a plate for them.

But when I mix just the yolk in with their regular

food, they do eat it. Fingers crossed.... Thing is,

BF wants me to give them cheap eggs, and keep the good

eggs for ourselves, but this somewhat defeats the

object of giving them good fats to alleviate their

skin problems!

> Have you tried kefir? She'll lick it and raw milk

> off my fingers but won't

> drink it. But perhaps cats shouldn't be drinking

> goat's milk.

>

No, I don't think they should be getting much, if any

dairy. They didn't drink the kefir I put down for

them once, so I didn't bother again.

Jo

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>> I really don't want to get into buying high quality

CLO and such like for them - I don't spend that sort

of money on myself! <<

One thing to think about is this. Cats are obligate carnivores, the most highly

specialized eaters in the animal kingdom. Obligate carnivory is also the most

expensive diet in the animal kingdom.

We keep carnivores as pets in large numbers in this country because we feed them

totally inappropriate grain-based diets. This makes feeding them cheap, but we

generally lose all those nutritional savings at the vet's office, or in

heartbreak. Cats, who can live into their late 20s, are considered " seniors " at

8 or 10 years old. Cats who die at 14 are thought to have lived a good long

life. Kidney disease in cats is the NORM now - and diabetes is getting there.

When considering how expensive a feline diet is, consider how much it costs to

remedy the ill effects on them that a cheaper, less species appropriate diet

produces. And consider also how very tiny cats are. While the cost of a

carnivorous diet for cats is, pound for pound, more expensive than an

appropriate diet for a human being, the absolute cost isn't that much, because

cats consume such small amounts. And when feeding them an appropriate,

nutrient-dense, diet, ie, not bulking it out with a lot of vegetable matter they

don't need and which in fact harms them, you will find they eat even less than

you would expect.

I always chuckle when talking with cat owners complaining about the cost of

feeding a carnivorous diet to their cats. Try feeding a houseful of dogs the

size of human beings sometime. <G>

Christie

Caber Feidh ish Deerhounds

Holistic Husbandry Since 1986

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--- Christie <christiekeith@...>

wrote: > >> I really don't want to get into buying

high

> quality

> CLO and such like for them - I don't spend that sort

> of money on myself! <<

>

> One thing to think about is this. Cats are obligate

> carnivores, the most highly specialized eaters in

> the animal kingdom. Obligate carnivory is also the

> most expensive diet in the animal kingdom.

>

My own health is more important - I won't sacrifice

that for the cats, who are already 12 and doing well

except for their teeth. The raw diet that I feed them

is the best that i have to offer right now. It is

miles better than the tinned food and dry biscuits

that they used to get.

Jo

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