Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 <Homosexuality would fall under >lust as defined by strong sexual desire. <....oh lordy.... Suzie, if you want respect for your beliefs and who you are, give it back. That definition of lust is standard dictionary definition and what I was expressing would be the criteria that Christians (whether I am one or not) would or might derive belief that homosexuality was a sin. It's really about understanding different perspectives, not one side being right and the other wrong. In contrast to the sins >are the great virtues of humility, generosity, love, kindness, >self control, faith and temperance, and zeal. <i'm sure there are no homosexuals who possess these qualities...<rolling eyes> Rolling eyes? Again Suzie, if you want respect for your beliefs and who you are, give respect back. This is another reason I have lost any empathy for your cause - I repeatedly see a group that is self serving, self centered, narcissitic, who seek priveledge, and hold no respect or regard for people with values different than their own. Why should I care about your issues? Why should any heterosexual when you have such horrid attitudes about us? Reread what I posted. In Christian ideology, all humans are sinners. There is nothing that qualifies or separates a homosexual or a heterosexual from this human condition. It actually implies that we are all equally the same in our state of humaness. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a problem with that too as you seem to have need to categorize and separate people by virtue of sexual orientation, make one good and one bad. Self control would >mean we do not necessarily act out sexual desires simply because >we feel inclined to do so. <then everyone, including heterosexuals, need to stop engaging in sex. Reducio absurdum is the term for this. Are you telling me that you determine whether all actions are right or wrong based on whether you " feel " like doing it or not? Aside from your sexual activity that is as that actually is typical argument for such behavior? If you felt inclined to kill some one, would that make it right? Should " feelings " even be a consideration when determining rights and wrongs? That is what self control is about - I'm sorry you have a problem with that concept. RE: Sinners Homosexuality would fall under >lust as defined by strong sexual desire. ....oh lordy.... In contrast to the sins >are the great virtues of humility, generosity, love, kindness, >self control, faith and temperance, and zeal. i'm sure there are no homosexuals who possess these qualities...<rolling eyes> Self control would >mean we do not necessarily act out sexual desires simply because >we feel inclined to do so. then everyone, including heterosexuals, need to stop engaging in sex. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:mhysmith@...] [snip] > I repeatedly see a group that is self serving, self centered, narcissitic, who seek priveledge, and hold no respect or regard for people with values different than their own. ## And that description also fits many people who call themselves " Christian. " As I have said before, of the people I know the Christians are the most judgmental and least tolerant. >In Christian ideology, all humans are sinners. There is nothing that qualifies or separates a homosexual or a heterosexual from this human condition. It actually implies that we are all equally the same in our state of humaness [snip] ## If all people are equally the same why do you protest so much? Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 > > > From: " " <mhysmith@...> > Reply- > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 08:16:03 -0600 > < > > Subject: Re: Sinners - Suze > > In contrast to the sins >> are the great virtues of humility, generosity, love, kindness, >> self control, faith and temperance, and zeal. > > <i'm sure there are no homosexuals who possess these qualities...<rolling > eyes> > > Rolling eyes? Again Suzie, if you want respect for your beliefs and who you > are, give respect back. This is another reason I have lost any empathy for > your cause - I repeatedly see a group that is self serving, self centered, > narcissitic, who seek priveledge, and hold no respect or regard for people > with values different than their own. Why should I care about your issues? > Why should any heterosexual when you have such horrid attitudes about us? > Reread what I posted. In Christian ideology, all humans are sinners. There > is nothing that qualifies or separates a homosexual or a heterosexual from > this human condition. It actually implies that we are all equally the same in > our state of humaness. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a problem with that > too as you seem to have need to categorize and separate people by virtue of > sexual orientation, make one good and one bad. > Wow. You, uh, really have some issues. I haven't seen anyone express a lack of respect for heterosexuals. However, I would agree with one sentiment - one should NOT have respect for hatred and bigotry. I do not respect your views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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