Re: Pasteurization was Detox and Immune Suppression

[Guest guest]

At 08:42 AM 2/17/2004, you wrote:

>We have pasteurization as a result of World War II, when dairy farmers and

>cheese makers went off to war and were replaced by inexperienced workers who

>let safety and quality practices deteriorate as they geared up to supply

>huge amounts of cheese for the war effort. People did in fact die from

>consuming raw milk products. So in 1949, pasteurization became mandatory.

this isn't the point of the thread but...i have some conflicting research

that gives 1911 as the date of mandatory-ness. that might be just

MA-specific though - here's the long but quite good article:

http://www.nofamass.org/programs/rawmilk/tnf.php

-katja

[Guest guest]

Katja,

> this isn't the point of the thread but...i have some conflicting research

> that gives 1911 as the date of mandatory-ness. that might be just

> MA-specific though - here's the long but quite good article:

>

> http://www.nofamass.org/programs/rawmilk/tnf.php

Why does it not surprise me that MA seems to have led this? Doesn't specify

as only Boston mandatory in 1911. NYC mandatory 1912. Being in Western MA

where NOFA is I can attest to my parents getting raw milk to cure my colic

in 1956. Stores did sell only pasteurized. Had our own Guernsey for around 5

years after. Was around 1965 our neighbor we bought raw milk from after said

they were told their raw milk couldn't be sold anymore. Remember they had a

milk for sale sign out in front of their house. Door to door type state

mandatory pasteurization took quite a few years.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

what's most interesting to me about the article is that they knew what they

were doing was sub-optimal, healthwise. which means that, now that we have

the technology to be optimal, there's no reason to maintain these laws.

(also interesting that they were actually purposefully wanting (needing, in

their eyes) to put the small dairy out of business. well, congratulations!)

At 11:29 AM 2/17/2004, you wrote:

>Katja,

>

> > this isn't the point of the thread but...i have some conflicting research

> > that gives 1911 as the date of mandatory-ness. that might be just

> > MA-specific though - here's the long but quite good article:

> >

> > http://www.nofamass.org/programs/rawmilk/tnf.php

>

>Why does it not surprise me that MA seems to have led this? Doesn't specify

>as only Boston mandatory in 1911. NYC mandatory 1912. Being in Western MA

>where NOFA is I can attest to my parents getting raw milk to cure my colic

>in 1956. Stores did sell only pasteurized. Had our own Guernsey for around 5

>years after. Was around 1965 our neighbor we bought raw milk from after said

>they were told their raw milk couldn't be sold anymore. Remember they had a

>milk for sale sign out in front of their house. Door to door type state

>mandatory pasteurization took quite a few years.

>

>Wanita

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[Guest guest]

Wanita-

>NYC mandatory 1912.

That might explain my confusion, then; I hadn't realized it had taken until

after two whole world wars to spread to all the rest of the country.

-

[Guest guest]

Technology made eternally optimal employment for all those who got fat in

the back pocket putting themselves in between the dairy farmer and the

consumer.

> what's most interesting to me about the article is that they knew what

they

> were doing was sub-optimal, healthwise. which means that, now that we have

> the technology to be optimal, there's no reason to maintain these laws.

> (also interesting that they were actually purposefully wanting (needing,

in

> their eyes) to put the small dairy out of business. well,

congratulations!)

Wanita