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> ok.

>

> so i frequently make the coconut mousse pie, and i also make this

thing

> that's sorta like cheesecake - raw cream cheese/rawegg yolks/raw

> honey/vanilla. but there's only two of us, so we can never eat it

in one

> day. so far we haven't gotten sick from popping it in the fridge,

and

> generally we eat it within two days.

>

> is that sketchy with raw eggs?

I wouldn't think so. My grandmother has passed down a Chocolate or

Coffee frosting recipe that uses raw egg. It's a few days before the

whole cake the frosting is on is entirely eaten up and she doesn't

even keep the cake in the fridge! Just in a cool place like her

garage. I'll post the recipe and the modification I made to it a

little later.

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Mayonnaise freshly made with egg yolks lasts for a couple weeks

refrigerated. I buy raw French mayonnaise on the store shelf (aka the fluff

zone in the market) that lasts a month once open, so long as the date on the

bottle has not been exceeded. The lemon or vinegar keeps it from spoiling.

But my 1963 © _Joy of Cooking_ states:

" Care must be used in storing all mayonnaise combinations under

refrigeration, as they are subject to bacterial activity which may be very

toxic without any evidence of spoilage. "

This is true for any recipe with raw eggs that isn't heated that needs to

store for more than a day or two. Refrigerate and you're fine. Frozen

cheesecake ain't bad neither ;-)

I would think if you had your own chickens, their eggs would be fine at room

temperature for some time and you wouldn't have to worry so much.

Deanna

so far we haven't gotten sick from popping it in the fridge, and

generally we eat it within two days.

is that sketchy with raw eggs? - Katja

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At 05:23 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote:

>I would think if you had your own chickens, their eggs would be fine at room

>temperature for some time and you wouldn't have to worry so much.

we do.

i just wanted to make sure that once i make them into something, it'd be

ok. i thought about the mayo too, but they mayo has whey, which is

something of a preservative, so i thought a second opinion was a good call.

i'm feeling pretty good about it now!

thanks,

katja

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>I wouldn't think so. My grandmother has passed down a Chocolate or

>Coffee frosting recipe that uses raw egg. It's a few days before the

>whole cake the frosting is on is entirely eaten up and she doesn't

>even keep the cake in the fridge! Just in a cool place like her

>garage. I'll post the recipe and the modification I made to it a

>little later.

Most of the old frosting recipes used raw eggs. I know that is frowned upon

now, but with all that sugar I have a hard time seeing how bacteria can grow.

Sugar is an antibiotic just like salt is ... it exerts osmotic pressure on the

cell

membranes of bacteria. Hence " sugar cured " hams. Has any study actually

been DONE on raw-egg frostings or are they just frowned upon because

of the raw eggs in principle?

-- Heidi Jean

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Sounds delicious. Mind sharing the recipe? :)

~ Fern

From: " katja " <katja@...>

> so i frequently make the coconut mousse pie, and i also make this thing

> that's sorta like cheesecake - raw cream cheese/rawegg yolks/raw

> honey/vanilla. but there's only two of us, so we can never eat it in one

> day. so far we haven't gotten sick from popping it in the fridge, and

> generally we eat it within two days.

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At 11:42 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote:

>Sounds delicious. Mind sharing the recipe? :)

>

>~ Fern

sure!

i made cream cheese from raw yogurt

i used i'd say about 1-2 cups of that, 4 egg yolks, a whole bunch of

vanilla (yum!) - maybe 1-2 tablespoons?, and about a tablespoon of raw

honey. i tossed it all in the mixer and mixed it up till it was...ya know.

mixed. :) then i put it in the frige and it set up quite nicely. i had

intended for it to be cheesecake, so i did it over the coconut " crust " in

NT, but it didn't firm up quite enough to be really cheesecake. more like a

very thick mousse. next time i think i'm going to serve it in bowls with

blueberries...

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Thanks Katja!

~ Fern

From: " katja "

> At 11:42 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote:

> >Sounds delicious. Mind sharing the recipe? :)

> >

> >~ Fern

>

> sure!

>

> i made cream cheese from raw yogurt

> i used i'd say about 1-2 cups of that, 4 egg yolks, a whole bunch of

> vanilla (yum!) - maybe 1-2 tablespoons?, and about a tablespoon of raw

> honey. i tossed it all in the mixer and mixed it up till it was...ya

know.

> mixed. :) then i put it in the frige and it set up quite nicely. i had

> intended for it to be cheesecake, so i did it over the coconut " crust " in

> NT, but it didn't firm up quite enough to be really cheesecake. more like

a

> very thick mousse. next time i think i'm going to serve it in bowls with

> blueberries...

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How can yogurt be raw? Isn't yogurt always heated which kills all the

enzymes?

Helen

> From: katja <katja@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:25:54 -0500

>

> Subject: Re: raw egg shelf life

>

> At 11:42 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote:

>> Sounds delicious. Mind sharing the recipe? :)

>>

>> ~ Fern

>

> sure!

>

> i made cream cheese from raw yogurt

> i used i'd say about 1-2 cups of that, 4 egg yolks, a whole bunch of

> vanilla (yum!) - maybe 1-2 tablespoons?, and about a tablespoon of raw

> honey. i tossed it all in the mixer and mixed it up till it was...ya know.

> mixed. :) then i put it in the frige and it set up quite nicely. i had

> intended for it to be cheesecake, so i did it over the coconut " crust " in

> NT, but it didn't firm up quite enough to be really cheesecake. more like a

> very thick mousse. next time i think i'm going to serve it in bowls with

> blueberries...

>

>

>

>

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