20% of autism is Mito dysfunction.....is this your child!

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Hi all,

I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a mitochondrial

dysfunction.

How many of your children have it?

What complex is it?

What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

.....also

it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this please...

I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

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I think it is about 40%

No one's child has MtD by response. Not very common then!

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

mitochondrial

> dysfunction.

>

> How many of your children have it?

>

> What complex is it?

>

> What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

>

> ....also

>

> it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

please...

>

> I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

>

[Guest guest]

No one's child has MtD by response. Not very common then!

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

mitochondrial

> dysfunction.

>

> How many of your children have it?

>

> What complex is it?

>

> What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

>

> ....also

>

> it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

please...

>

> I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

>

[Guest guest]

That high!!

Does anyone know any groups or someone can contact me off line about

MtD. My son has it, worried sick.

Thanks

> >> >

> >> > Hi all,

> >> >

> >> > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > mitochondrial

> >> > dysfunction.

> >> >

> >> > How many of your children have it?

> >> >

> >> > What complex is it?

> >> >

> >> > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> >> >

> >> > ....also

> >> >

> >> > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > please...

> >> >

> >> > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How do you know he has it? It is very difficult to test for. There are

very few recognised tests

Sally

ru345mins wrote:

>

> That high!!

> Does anyone know any groups or someone can contact me off line about

> MtD. My son has it, worried sick.

> Thanks

>

> > >> >

> > >> > Hi all,

> > >> >

> > >> > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > mitochondrial

> > >> > dysfunction.

> > >> >

> > >> > How many of your children have it?

> > >> >

> > >> > What complex is it?

> > >> >

> > >> > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > >> >

> > >> > ....also

> > >> >

> > >> > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > > please...

> > >> >

> > >> > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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We had mitochondrial damage. Basically it interferes with energy production. I am unaware of it's relationship to protein, maybe someone more science orientated could answer this. Chelation was the cure; some suppplements which are helpful, but not here are; CoQ10, Acetyl l carnitine, magnesium malate. Helpful here was Biotin.

>> Hi all,> > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a mitochondrial > dysfunction.> > How many of your children have it?> > What complex is it?> > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?> > ....also> > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this please...> > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!>

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What are the differences between a mitochodrial disorder and a metabolic

disorder .... are they the same or connected?

Not sure if it is relevant but ds is being investigated by metabolic doc

for a likely metabolic disorder, (he is so far showing problems with the

Valine pathway and hydroxy C4 carnitine). Have to add though that ds

is not just autistic but has a string of other conditions going on.

emily

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> mitochondrial

> > dysfunction.

> >

> > How many of your children have it?

> >

> > What complex is it?

> >

> > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> >

> > ....also

> >

> > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> please...

> >

> > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that I have telephone appointment with DAN

tomorrow and trying to get as much info as possible on it for

questions, treatments etc,.

Sally my boy has had thousands of pounds of tests done....which has

shown a protein/autoimmune/metabolic/mitchondrial dysfunction. The

last one being Comp Urine Organic Acid test.

my boy has various sub functioning metabolic pathways (says in

letter to Paed)....I don't understand the differnce only metabolic is

the pump and mitochondrial changes the food etc into the energy to

be pumped.....he is very sick he has ammonia toxicity also (scary

reading this stuff)...he is always ill for every week he is well.

What I have read he will need mito coctails ( mentioned a few)

chelation and maybe HBOT.

To be honest I am frightened of what has come up....the Paed refused

to accept MtD as he said it does not exsist...only disrder/disease

but he referring my son's results to a metobolic specialist to look

at it all....he is phoning me in the week.

A paper mentioned a protein in mitochondria that is effected I will

look for it again and post it here...if I am allowed.

Any other help/infor out here for me to know?

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> mitochondrial

> > dysfunction.

> >

> > How many of your children have it?

> >

> > What complex is it?

> >

> > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> >

> > ....also

> >

> > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> please...

> >

> > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> >

>

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18622207?ordinalpos=20 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

There is a certainly a lot on mito disorders on Pubmed. I am posting

this abstract for you to see. The term disease as opposed to disorder is

used.

ru345mins schrieb:

>

> Thanks for that I have telephone appointment with DAN

> tomorrow and trying to get as much info as possible on it for

> questions, treatments etc,.

>

> Sally my boy has had thousands of pounds of tests done....which has

> shown a protein/autoimmune/metabolic/mitchondrial dysfunction. The

> last one being Comp Urine Organic Acid test.

>

> my boy has various sub functioning metabolic pathways (says in

> letter to Paed)....I don't understand the differnce only metabolic is

> the pump and mitochondrial changes the food etc into the energy to

> be pumped.....he is very sick he has ammonia toxicity also (scary

> reading this stuff)...he is always ill for every week he is well.

>

> What I have read he will need mito coctails ( mentioned a few)

> chelation and maybe HBOT.

>

> To be honest I am frightened of what has come up....the Paed refused

> to accept MtD as he said it does not exsist...only disrder/disease

> but he referring my son's results to a metobolic specialist to look

> at it all....he is phoning me in the week.

>

> A paper mentioned a protein in mitochondria that is effected I will

> look for it again and post it here...if I am allowed.

>

> Any other help/infor out here for me to know?

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > mitochondrial

> > > dysfunction.

> > >

> > > How many of your children have it?

> > >

> > > What complex is it?

> > >

> > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > >

> > > ....also

> > >

> > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > please...

> > >

> > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > >

> >

>

>

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18622207?ordinalpos=20 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

There is a certainly a lot on mito disorders on Pubmed. I am posting

this abstract for you to see. The term disease as opposed to disorder is

used.

ru345mins schrieb:

>

> Thanks for that I have telephone appointment with DAN

> tomorrow and trying to get as much info as possible on it for

> questions, treatments etc,.

>

> Sally my boy has had thousands of pounds of tests done....which has

> shown a protein/autoimmune/metabolic/mitchondrial dysfunction. The

> last one being Comp Urine Organic Acid test.

>

> my boy has various sub functioning metabolic pathways (says in

> letter to Paed)....I don't understand the differnce only metabolic is

> the pump and mitochondrial changes the food etc into the energy to

> be pumped.....he is very sick he has ammonia toxicity also (scary

> reading this stuff)...he is always ill for every week he is well.

>

> What I have read he will need mito coctails ( mentioned a few)

> chelation and maybe HBOT.

>

> To be honest I am frightened of what has come up....the Paed refused

> to accept MtD as he said it does not exsist...only disrder/disease

> but he referring my son's results to a metobolic specialist to look

> at it all....he is phoning me in the week.

>

> A paper mentioned a protein in mitochondria that is effected I will

> look for it again and post it here...if I am allowed.

>

> Any other help/infor out here for me to know?

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > mitochondrial

> > > dysfunction.

> > >

> > > How many of your children have it?

> > >

> > > What complex is it?

> > >

> > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > >

> > > ....also

> > >

> > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > please...

> > >

> > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > >

> >

>

>

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Thanks . It mentions protein import in this also....something

that is sticking out for me as my son is depleted in every protein

going.

I think deep down that his autism stems from a few disorders

including autoimmune, metabolic and now mitochondrial all factors

that have resulted in this autism. But this is my opinion and I am no

scientist.

Their is one paper I am trying to get to read but cant at the moment,

if anyone else has read it could you explain the main

findings/theories etc if possible.

Myelin, mitochondria, and autoimmunity: What's the connection?

Carelli and Bellan Neurology.2008; 70: 1075-1076

This may be a key (or the closest to what my son has) finding.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > mitochondrial

> > > > dysfunction.

> > > >

> > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > >

> > > > What complex is it?

> > > >

> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > >

> > > > ....also

> > > >

> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > > please...

> > > >

> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks . It mentions protein import in this also....something

that is sticking out for me as my son is depleted in every protein

going.

I think deep down that his autism stems from a few disorders

including autoimmune, metabolic and now mitochondrial all factors

that have resulted in this autism. But this is my opinion and I am no

scientist.

Their is one paper I am trying to get to read but cant at the moment,

if anyone else has read it could you explain the main

findings/theories etc if possible.

Myelin, mitochondria, and autoimmunity: What's the connection?

Carelli and Bellan Neurology.2008; 70: 1075-1076

This may be a key (or the closest to what my son has) finding.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > mitochondrial

> > > > dysfunction.

> > > >

> > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > >

> > > > What complex is it?

> > > >

> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > >

> > > > ....also

> > > >

> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this

> > > please...

> > > >

> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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According to Cutler, anyone with mercury problems is also going to

have mitochondrial issues. So, it could be higher than 40%,

especially if one assumes that mercury wouldn't be the only source of

mito issues. If you look at the symptoms of mito problems, they are

really widespread among our kids

Trying the mito supps is something that I think is worthwhile. Lots

of the supps work for different things anyway, not just to

support/ameliorate mito function. For my son, the mito supps weren't

a huge wow, but definitely worthwhile and he continues to take them.

As far as low amino acids, this too is very commong among our kids.

Lots of reason, IME, including low stomach acid, poor enzyme function

and gut damage, limited diet. We used a custom blend amino supp for

a while. Just tried a generic blend and my son didn't seem to

tolerate it. Now I'm really just pushing easily digested proteins

(for example eggs, soaked grains like spelt which is high in protein,

gently cooked meats, cultured milk, etc).

Anita

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Neno/Natasa

wrote:

>

> >

> > I think it is about 40%

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

According to Cutler, anyone with mercury problems is also going to

have mitochondrial issues. So, it could be higher than 40%,

especially if one assumes that mercury wouldn't be the only source of

mito issues. If you look at the symptoms of mito problems, they are

really widespread among our kids

Trying the mito supps is something that I think is worthwhile. Lots

of the supps work for different things anyway, not just to

support/ameliorate mito function. For my son, the mito supps weren't

a huge wow, but definitely worthwhile and he continues to take them.

As far as low amino acids, this too is very commong among our kids.

Lots of reason, IME, including low stomach acid, poor enzyme function

and gut damage, limited diet. We used a custom blend amino supp for

a while. Just tried a generic blend and my son didn't seem to

tolerate it. Now I'm really just pushing easily digested proteins

(for example eggs, soaked grains like spelt which is high in protein,

gently cooked meats, cultured milk, etc).

Anita

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Neno/Natasa

wrote:

>

> >

> > I think it is about 40%

> >

> >

> >

> >

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----- Original Message -----

From: ru345mins

Thanks for that I have telephone appointment with DAN tomorrow and trying to get as much info as possible on it for questions, treatments etc,.

===>You can spend a lot of time on this, but there is no cure for mitochondrial disease/dysfunction, save for getting the metals out to allow the mitochrondria to function properly. Treatment *is* chelation, although you can give the nutrients to help the symptoms in the meantime.

It may be interesting to note that practically *none* of the mitochondrial supplements did anything we could see her with her low energy levels and/or hypotonia which were caused by the mitochondrial damage.

Only Biotin (incidentally this is what Andy Cutler told me and I did not listen, gave the much more expensive CoQ10, Acetyl l carnitine, Idebednone, Benfotiamine, etc). They all did nothing. The 5-10 biotin per meal helped both the hypotonia, low energy levels and yeast as well!

With chelation...this along with everything else....is gone.

> >> > Hi all,> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a > mitochondrial > > dysfunction.> > > > How many of your children have it?> > > > What complex is it?> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?> > > > ....also> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this > please...> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!> >>

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----- Original Message -----

From: ru345mins

Thanks for that I have telephone appointment with DAN tomorrow and trying to get as much info as possible on it for questions, treatments etc,.

===>You can spend a lot of time on this, but there is no cure for mitochondrial disease/dysfunction, save for getting the metals out to allow the mitochrondria to function properly. Treatment *is* chelation, although you can give the nutrients to help the symptoms in the meantime.

It may be interesting to note that practically *none* of the mitochondrial supplements did anything we could see her with her low energy levels and/or hypotonia which were caused by the mitochondrial damage.

Only Biotin (incidentally this is what Andy Cutler told me and I did not listen, gave the much more expensive CoQ10, Acetyl l carnitine, Idebednone, Benfotiamine, etc). They all did nothing. The 5-10 biotin per meal helped both the hypotonia, low energy levels and yeast as well!

With chelation...this along with everything else....is gone.

> >> > Hi all,> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a > mitochondrial > > dysfunction.> > > > How many of your children have it?> > > > What complex is it?> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?> > > > ....also> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain this > please...> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!> >>

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This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > mitochondrial

> > > > dysfunction.

> > > >

> > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > >

> > > > What complex is it?

> > > >

> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > >

> > > > ....also

> > > >

> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

this

> > > please...

> > > >

> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > mitochondrial

> > > > dysfunction.

> > > >

> > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > >

> > > > What complex is it?

> > > >

> > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > >

> > > > ....also

> > > >

> > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

this

> > > please...

> > > >

> > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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,

The mitochondria ( in every cell ) is the 'organ' where respiration

takes place. You wouldn't necessarily see respiration problems in your

son such as wheezing or the like. Instead, you would see a child who is

quite tired, lacking in energy, out of sorts etc.

My daughter is doing her GSCE biology at the moment and I had to help

her review all this last week.

stephaniesirr schrieb:

>

> This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

> I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > >

> > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > >

> > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > >

> > > > > ....also

> > > > >

> > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

> this

> > > > please...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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,

The mitochondria ( in every cell ) is the 'organ' where respiration

takes place. You wouldn't necessarily see respiration problems in your

son such as wheezing or the like. Instead, you would see a child who is

quite tired, lacking in energy, out of sorts etc.

My daughter is doing her GSCE biology at the moment and I had to help

her review all this last week.

stephaniesirr schrieb:

>

> This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

> I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > >

> > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > >

> > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > >

> > > > > ....also

> > > > >

> > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

> this

> > > > please...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Um, that sounded rather pedantic. I just wanted to say that I brushed up

on mito by helping my daughter last week with GCSE Biol so was able to

share with you what I remember :-)))

JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb:

>

> ,

>

> The mitochondria ( in every cell ) is the 'organ' where respiration

> takes place. You wouldn't necessarily see respiration problems in your

> son such as wheezing or the like. Instead, you would see a child who is

> quite tired, lacking in energy, out of sorts etc.

>

> My daughter is doing her GSCE biology at the moment and I had to help

> her review all this last week.

>

>

>

> stephaniesirr schrieb:

> >

> > This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

> > I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

> > this

> > > > > please...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Um, that sounded rather pedantic. I just wanted to say that I brushed up

on mito by helping my daughter last week with GCSE Biol so was able to

share with you what I remember :-)))

JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb:

>

> ,

>

> The mitochondria ( in every cell ) is the 'organ' where respiration

> takes place. You wouldn't necessarily see respiration problems in your

> son such as wheezing or the like. Instead, you would see a child who is

> quite tired, lacking in energy, out of sorts etc.

>

> My daughter is doing her GSCE biology at the moment and I had to help

> her review all this last week.

>

>

>

> stephaniesirr schrieb:

> >

> > This seems to imply that Mtd is linked to respiratory problems or am

> > I misreading this. we've never had any signs of that.

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

> > this

> > > > > please...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > -------

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date:

> > 26/10/2008 19:53

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date:

> 26/10/2008 19:53

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG.

> Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date: 26/10/2008

19:53

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, ok. Tom has no regulation - knackered, lively, knackered,

lively - very rarely relaxed. Not sure if that's relevant in

anyway, shape or form!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

> > this

> > > > > please...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > -------

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release

Date:

> > 26/10/2008 19:53

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

-------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date:

26/10/2008 19:53

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just sounded informative to me ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > > > > > mitochondrial

> > > > > > > dysfunction.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How many of your children have it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What complex is it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ....also

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone

explain

> > > this

> > > > > > please...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > -------

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release

Date:

> > > 26/10/2008 19:53

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG.

> > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release

Date:

> > 26/10/2008 19:53

> > >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

-------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date:

26/10/2008 19:53

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou

from the bottom of my heart!

Really needed your experience on it all!

Is this a 'protocol' Andy Cuttler....or is he a person I see???

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I have read that 20% of children with ASD could have a

> > mitochondrial

> > > dysfunction.

> > >

> > > How many of your children have it?

> > >

> > > What complex is it?

> > >

> > > What treatment and effectiveness of medication?

> > >

> > > ....also

> > >

> > > it has something to do with protein....can anyone explain

this

> > please...

> > >

> > > I am just trying to establish how common it really is!

> > >

> >

>