RE: RE: OT climate change vs. energy supply

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/25/04 5:14:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

harmoniousliving@... writes:

> Americans over-consume to SUCH a huge degree that if

> we cut consumption by half, most of us would hardly

> notice. We need a different paradigm.

I suggest you test this by cutting your consumption in half for a month and

see if you notice.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi

Just to be clear, you attributed my email address to something Heidi wrote.

But since you brought it up, I did cut my electricity consumption down

30-50% (all electric house) starting about four months ago. I was eating

75-100% raw foods, which take little if any heat to prepare. I turned my

frig way down as fruits and veg require a less cold environment than animal

foods. It wasn't an optimal choice for my body, but it sure cut my energy

usage down.

I'd rather keep my email address out of the loop, if you wouldn't mind

cutting it out.

Thanks.

Deanna

harmoniousliving@ .... writes:

> Americans over-consume to SUCH a huge degree that if

> we cut consumption by half, most of us would hardly

> notice. We need a different paradigm.

I suggest you test this by cutting your consumption in half for a month and

see if you notice.

Chris

[Guest guest]

>I suggest you test this by cutting your consumption in half for a month and

>see if you notice.

>

>Chris

We are! Actually I've been cutting it over the last year or so, which

is partly what is making me think about this. Everything was getting

so complicated in the shopping department, I decided to simplify.

My goal this year is to figure out how to grow a garden, and figure

out how much our family actually NEEDS to eat. However, we eat

very well and the consensus is we eat much, much better than

we used to (tastier food, nice big portions).

We've also been cutting back on other stuff. Like I said, I think

a lot of us overconsume. Now, when I was in college, as you

are I think? -- I was far, far more efficient. I bought one chicken

a week, which was dinner for the whole week -- some potatoes,

tortillas, lettuce, onions, cheese, tomatoes, milk, eggs,

and taco sauce. Maybe some tomato paste to make enchiladas

too, and occasionally a lb of hamburger. That is all I could afford.

At that point in my life, no, I could not cut it by half.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>I'd rather keep my email address out of the loop, if you wouldn't mind

>cutting it out.

Deanna:

Your email address always shows, BTW, if you send email

and it is delivered as individual emails.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

*****

Your email address always shows, BTW, if you send email

and it is delivered as individual emails.

-- Heidi Jean

*****

Dear Heidi,

Yes, I know that, but this group is public, I believe. Therefore, when it

gets posted on , if my address is part of the text of a message, it

will be subject to any web robots that might be scanning that page. If you

notice when reading or posting at , the address does not show, only a

few letters of it do. They are protecting against this kind of lifting of

email addresses from their site from bulk spammers. I have been victimized

in such a way before.

Now, if some member of the group wanted to do such a thing, then yes, it is

readable from the heading of the individual email. But none of you would do

such a thing, right?

Deanna

[Guest guest]

>Dear Heidi,

>

>Yes, I know that, but this group is public, I believe. Therefore, when it

>gets posted on , if my address is part of the text of a message, it

>will be subject to any web robots that might be scanning that page. If you

>notice when reading or posting at , the address does not show, only a

>few letters of it do. They are protecting against this kind of lifting of

>email addresses from their site from bulk spammers. I have been victimized

>in such a way before.

Ah. That makes sense. No, I'm not a spammer. I get plent of it anyway though.

-- Heidi Jean