Re:CHELATING AGENTS -OOPS! ?

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sorry i meant DMSA, DMPSA, EDTA !

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Autism Biomedical Europe

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8. Sonrise Program Start Up Workshop Jan 26 2009 From: bbrowne123

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Posted by: "stephaniesirr" mark.grabiec@... stephaniesirr

Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:01 am (PDT)

Somoene who used to work with TOm wants to do one with him. Thatwon't be soon enough for you but if the worst comes to the worst shemight be a fall back.I'm sorry Sharon - there is nothing more stressful than people lettingyour kids down. But I@m sure it's redeemable - you've got people roundto your way of thinking in the past, this will come right. Steph xx >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > it is the most effective agent for mobilising mercury stored in>> > intracellular space, including brain cells, and including the> nucleus of>> > the cell - it literally pulls mercury stored on DNA... but because> it>> > mobilises more toxins that it can carry out of the body it> ABSOLUTELY>> > MUST be taken together with an intestinal toxin binding agent. one> of>> > the suggestions was to take it 30 minutes after taking chlorella...>> > >> > If no chlor is taken most neurotoxins are reabsorbed!!I>> > >> > >> > >>>> > >>I agree Cilantro mobilises, and Chorella does too, but I> wouldn't give the>> > stuff to my mates dog let alone a toxic child.>> > >> > Mobilising is not the same as safely escorting metals out of the> body. As I >> > understand it is not known how to dose either of these agents to> half life.>> > >> > I used Cilantro with DMSA and stopped dosing the Cilantro 8 hours> before I >> > was due to stop the DMSA. We already had 80+ rounds of low> frequent dosing >> > chelation under our belt by then and saw a yeast explosion like we> hadn't seen >> > in 20 rounds or so, so I definitely believe it mobilises well.>> > >> > As somebody who has been around biomed/chelation for nearly 9 years> I would >> > strongly recommend against using it. Those of you who have known me> for a >> > while know I don't strongly recommend against anything else except> what I >> > consider to be unsafe chelation/detox protocols. Everything else> can be a learning>> > experience,. messing up detox can mean long term harm.>> > >> > JMHO>> > >> > Mandi x>> >> > >

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Sonrise Program Start Up Workshop Jan 26 2009

Posted by: "bbrowne123" bbrowne123@... bbrowne123

Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:00 pm (PDT)

For anyone interested, this workshop is amazing (i went last year and it has changed our lives. ) It is also funded by Caudwell Charity.http://www.autismtreatmentcenter.org/contents/programs_and_services/index.phpWe now have 2 wonderful volunteers and my boy is loving it. The progress he has made via sonrise and biomed has been earth shattering. anyone interested in talking about the workshop, you can email me off list. I have notes from last year's workshop for anyone who wants em.

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Having said that, I've read people saying that LA chelated lead in their kids as did dmps. Neither DMSA or LA are supposed to chelated aluminum I think, yet my son has excreted incredibly high aluminum without having exposure to it for a long time.

>>I have a adult ebuddy who saw loads of Lead come out with ALA, they could only afford to use ALA. Their rented accommodation which they could not afford to move from was all Lead paint. She painted over everything.

The kids got heaps better, my friend had major problems, turned out her amalgams had not been properly reomved - can you believe the dentist just skimmed the top off, stuck white in and left masses of Hg underneath? FInally xray at another dentist showed what the problem was. I have not heard from her in yonks, I hope she is OK.

Andy says the aluminium will come out by itself when the Mercury starts coming down.

Mandi x

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> Autism Biomedical Europesorry i meant DMSA, DMPSA, EDTA !

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Lucinda, this is my understanding:

DMSA: chelates lead, mercury, cadmium. Does not cross a healthy

BBB, or the cell wall

DMPS: chelates mercury, cadmium, arsenic. Does not cross a healthy

BBB or the cell wall.

EDTA: chelates lead, cadmium, arsenic, and aluminum (this according

to Quig, the guy at DDI) but also strips minerals it would seem like

zinc and iron, Cutler recommends against it for people with mercury

toxicity

Lipoic acid: chelates mercury, arsenic, and one other I think that I

can't remember for the life of me. It does cross the BBB and works

inside the cells. Shouldn't be used with high copper problems.

Having said that, I've read people saying that LA chelated lead in

their kids as did dmps. Neither DMSA or LA are supposed to chelated

aluminum I think, yet my son has excreted incredibly high aluminum

without having exposure to it for a long time.

HTH,

Anita

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From: Mum231ASD@...

In a message dated 26/10/2008 15:59:45 GMT Standard Time, mysuperteachhotmail writes:

Having said that, I've read people saying that LA chelated lead in their kids as did dmps. Neither DMSA or LA are supposed to chelated aluminum I think, yet my son has excreted incredibly high aluminum without having exposure to it for a long time.

>>I have a adult ebuddy who saw loads of Lead come out with ALA, they could only afford to use ALA. Their rented accommodation which they could not afford to move from was all Lead paint. She painted over everything.

===>I asked Andy about the possibility of Ala chelating lead and he said that he was almost sure it did, but it was not responsible to say so as he didn't know for sure.

I have no idea what, but Dmsa, did something totally different here than did Ala, something good.

And, yes, you have to watch these dentists, particularly the ones who were exposed to mercury for years, they're likely crazy.

Mandi x

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Thanks so much for all your replies, very useful. x