Re: POLITICS - marriage symbolic of Christ and the Church? (was POLITICS - I'm out (was: Disturbing article))

[Guest guest]

From: " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...>

> > 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

> > 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the

> >head of the church:

>

> hmmm...i'm picturing a man's head on top of a woman's body. ;-)

That is a funny word picture. It's meant to be symbolic, tho, not

literal, as you probably realize.

> speaking for myself, i don't need a " head " , thanks (other than my own and

> god's). just curious if you or other christian woman " submit " yourselves

to

> your husbands as your " head " , and if so - what does that entail?

Well, I'm not married, but if I were married I would work together with my

husband looking to him as the leader in the relationship.

> > 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives

> >be to their own husbands in every thing.

>

> so, these passages represent the bible's view on the marital relationship

> between husband and wife - that he is her head and she must submit to him

as

> she would to god (and as the church does to christ), and she is subject

to

> him in everything?

I guess some would say that a wife should submit to her husband as she

would to God, but there's also a place in Scripture where it says, " It's

better to obey God rather than man. " So where a husband would ask his wife

to do something contrary to what God says (in the Bible), my take is that

she should obey God.

As far as the wife being subject to the husband in everything ... I think

it's best to take that in view of Scripture as a whole (which gives

explicit instructions to the husband as well), and I don't think this is

the place to get into this any more than briefly in order to answer your

question. If you want to discuss it further feel free to email me offlist.

~ Fern

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Fern-

>Well, I'm not married, but if I were married I would work together with my

>husband looking to him as the leader in the relationship.

So if you and I got married, I could, as your leader, order you to accept

gay marriage? ;-)

>I guess some would say that a wife should submit to her husband as she

>would to God, but there's also a place in Scripture where it says, " It's

>better to obey God rather than man. " So where a husband would ask his wife

>to do something contrary to what God says (in the Bible), my take is that

>she should obey God.

Hmm, I see. So in addition to telling you to accept gay marriage, I'd have

to show you were in the Bible god actually said to " be fruity " , not

" fruitful " ? <g>

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[Guest guest]

From: " Idol " <Idol@...>

> Hmm, I see. So in addition to telling you to accept gay marriage, I'd

have

> to show you were in the Bible god actually said to " be fruity " , not

> " fruitful " ? <g>

Exactly! ... tho I think you'd have a hard time finding it, so I think

I'm safe. <g>

~ Fern

[Guest guest]

From: Idol -- << So in addition to telling you to accept gay marriage, I'd

have to show you were in the Bible god actually said to " be fruity " , not

" fruitful " ? <g>

,

THANKS for that... you've made my day..! :-)

BTW... the original instruction is -- be 'fertile' and multiply --

However... both 'fruit' and 'fertile' have the same root in Hebrew.

Dedy

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Dedy-

>BTW... the original instruction is -- be 'fertile' and multiply --

>However... both 'fruit' and 'fertile' have the same root in Hebrew.

Hmm, seems we're on even firmer ground, then, since God must've just been

talking about eating good food raised on fertile soil!

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[Guest guest]

From: Idol -- <<Hmm, seems we're on even firmer ground, then, since God

must've just been talking about eating good food raised on fertile soil!>>

Yep... I'm pretty sure that's what God meant when she said that :-)

Dedy

[Guest guest]

> From: Idol -- <<Hmm, seems we're on even firmer ground, then, since

God must've just been talking about eating good food raised on fertile

soil!>>

>

>

> Yep... I'm pretty sure that's what God meant when she said that :-)

>

> Dedy

Pretty sure she meant that everything that lives from that fertile soil have

a spirit as well. :-)

Wanita