RE: Re: (OT) Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change

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Thought you might find this interesting:

Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

Sun Feb 22, 5:17 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - A secret report prepared by the Pentagon (news - web sites) warns

that climate change may lead to global catastrophe costing millions of lives and

is a far greater threat than terrorism.

The report was ordered by an influential US Pentagon advisor but was covered up

by " US defense chiefs " for four months, until it was " obtained " by the British

weekly The Observer.

The leak promises to draw angry attention to US environmental and military

policies, following Washington's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol (news - web

sites) on climate change and President W. Bush (news - web sites)'s

skepticism about global warning -- a stance that has stunned scientists

worldwide.

The Pentagon report, commissioned by Marshall, predicts that " abrupt

climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries

develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy

supplies, " The Observer reported.

The report, quoted in the paper, concluded: " Disruption and conflict will be

endemic features of life.... Once again, warfare would define human life. "

Its authors -- Schwartz, a CIA (news - web sites) consultant and former

head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of Global Business

Network based in California -- said climate change should be considered

" immediately " as a top political and military issue.

It " should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security

concern " , they were quoted as saying.

Some examples given of probable scenarios in the dramatic report include:

-- Britain will have winters similar to those in current-day Siberia as European

temperatures drop off radically by 2020.

-- by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable

and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all

water to densely populated southern California

-- Europe and the United States become " virtual fortresses " trying to keep out

millions of migrants whose homelands have been wiped out by rising sea levels or

made unfarmable by drought.

-- " catastrophic " shortages of potable water and energy will lead to widespread

war by 2020.

Randall, one of the authors, called his findings " depressing stuff " and warned

that it might even be too late to prevent future disasters.

" We don't know exactly where we are in the process. It could start tomorrow and

we would not know for another five years, " he told the paper.

Experts familiar with the report told the newspaper that the threat to global

stability " vastly eclipses that of terrorism " .

Taking environmental pollution and climate change into account in political and

military strategy is a new, complicated and necessary challenge for leaders,

Randall said.

" It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to

point your guns at and we have no control over the threat, " he said.

Coming from the Pentagon, normally a bastion of conservative politics, the

report is expected to bring environmental issues to the fore in the US

presidential race.

Last week the Union of Concerned Scientists, an influential and non-partisan

group that includes 20 Nobel laureates, accused the Bush administration of

having deliberately distorted scientific fact to serve its policy agenda and

having " misled the public " .

Its 38-page report, which it said took over a year to prepare and was not time

to coincide with the campaign season, details how Washington " systematically "

skewed government scientific studies, suppressed others, stacked panels with

political and unqualified appointees and often refused to seek independent

expertise on issues.

Critics of the report quoted by the New York Times denied there was deliberate

misrepresentation and called it politically motivated.

The person behind the leaked Pentagon report, Marsall, cannot be accused

of the same partisan politicking.

Marsall, 82, has been an advisor for the defense department for decades, and was

described by The Observer as the author of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld's

plans for a major transformation of the US military

Sheryl Illustrations

http://dovedesignsrus.com

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Well, sure, it's secret -- except it's been in the science mags for the last 10

years

or so. I'm waiting for the GOP to come up with a way to say it's

all the fault of liberals ...

-- Heidi Jean

>Thought you might find this interesting:

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>Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

>

>Sun Feb 22, 5:17 PM ET

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>

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>LONDON (AFP) - A secret report prepared by the Pentagon (news - web sites)

warns that climate change may lead to global catastrophe costing millions of

lives and is a far greater threat than terrorism.

>

[Guest guest]

boy that is depressing. stories like this always make me wonder -- where is

the best place to live in this scenario?

elaine

> Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

[Guest guest]

Antartica. With a pet seal and living off whale blubber ( you need the seal

to help you gather fish ) they are better at it so why not have 1 as a pet

:-)

That take care of warm climate and also takes care of war. Its too bloody

cold

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From: Elaine [mailto:itchyink@...]

Sent: Monday, 23 February 2004 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: (OT) Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change

boy that is depressing. stories like this always make me wonder -- where is

the best place to live in this scenario?

elaine

> Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

[Guest guest]

Elaine-

>boy that is depressing. stories like this always make me wonder -- where is

>the best place to live in this scenario?

Unfortunately, since it's all but impossible to know exactly which scenario

or sub-scenario will play out, there's not really any way to know.

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[Guest guest]

Elaine,

Those were my thoughts exactly!!

Sheryl

Elaine <itchyink@...> wrote:

boy that is depressing. stories like this always make me wonder -- where is

the best place to live in this scenario?

elaine

> Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

[Guest guest]

Is there a link to this article?

Re: Re: (OT) Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change

Thought you might find this interesting:

Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report

Sun Feb 22, 5:17 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - A secret report prepared by the Pentagon (news - web sites)

warns that climate change may lead to global catastrophe costing millions of

lives and is a far greater threat than terrorism.

The report was ordered by an influential US Pentagon advisor but was covered

up by " US defense chiefs " for four months, until it was " obtained " by the

British weekly The Observer.

The leak promises to draw angry attention to US environmental and military

policies, following Washington's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol (news - web

sites) on climate change and President W. Bush (news - web sites)'s

skepticism about global warning -- a stance that has stunned scientists

worldwide.

The Pentagon report, commissioned by Marshall, predicts that " abrupt

climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries

develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and

energy supplies, " The Observer reported.

The report, quoted in the paper, concluded: " Disruption and conflict will be

endemic features of life.... Once again, warfare would define human life. "

Its authors -- Schwartz, a CIA (news - web sites) consultant and

former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of

Global Business Network based in California -- said climate change should be

considered " immediately " as a top political and military issue.

It " should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security

concern " , they were quoted as saying.

Some examples given of probable scenarios in the dramatic report include:

-- Britain will have winters similar to those in current-day Siberia as

European temperatures drop off radically by 2020.

-- by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands

uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California

that supplies all water to densely populated southern California

-- Europe and the United States become " virtual fortresses " trying to keep

out millions of migrants whose homelands have been wiped out by rising sea

levels or made unfarmable by drought.

-- " catastrophic " shortages of potable water and energy will lead to

widespread war by 2020.

Randall, one of the authors, called his findings " depressing stuff " and

warned that it might even be too late to prevent future disasters.

" We don't know exactly where we are in the process. It could start tomorrow

and we would not know for another five years, " he told the paper.

Experts familiar with the report told the newspaper that the threat to

global stability " vastly eclipses that of terrorism " .

Taking environmental pollution and climate change into account in political

and military strategy is a new, complicated and necessary challenge for

leaders, Randall said.

" It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy

to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat, " he said.

Coming from the Pentagon, normally a bastion of conservative politics, the

report is expected to bring environmental issues to the fore in the US

presidential race.

Last week the Union of Concerned Scientists, an influential and non-partisan

group that includes 20 Nobel laureates, accused the Bush administration of

having deliberately distorted scientific fact to serve its policy agenda and

having " misled the public " .

Its 38-page report, which it said took over a year to prepare and was not

time to coincide with the campaign season, details how Washington

" systematically " skewed government scientific studies, suppressed others,

stacked panels with political and unqualified appointees and often refused

to seek independent expertise on issues.

Critics of the report quoted by the New York Times denied there was

deliberate misrepresentation and called it politically motivated.

The person behind the leaked Pentagon report, Marsall, cannot be

accused of the same partisan politicking.

Marsall, 82, has been an advisor for the defense department for decades, and

was described by The Observer as the author of Defense Secretary

Rumsfeld's plans for a major transformation of the US military

Sheryl Illustrations

http://dovedesignsrus.com

[Guest guest]

Kayte Sisler <kayte@...> wrote:

Is there a link to this article?

Sorry Kate I should have given that too. . .Here it is:

http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & cid=1521 & e=1 & u=/afp/britain_us_envir\

onment

Sheryl

Sheryl Illustrations

http://dovedesignsrus.com

[Guest guest]

Kayte-

>Is there a link to this article?

Here's one.

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,582584,00.html

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[Guest guest]

,

The world has the technology to prepare the world to take care of it's own

basic life needs before such a scenario. If the thought of independence to

self sufficiency could be cultivated rather than total dependence the haves

require from the have nots in the form of global market domination there

would not have to be the continuation of war and control of resources this

sees as the result.

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,582584,00.html

Wanita

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Wanita-

>The world has the technology to prepare the world to take care of it's own

>basic life needs before such a scenario.

You mean the technology to prevent or roll back serious climate

change? That's highly unlikely, I think.

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