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I was reading with interest about fermenting kale in kimchi. has anyone just

fermented straight greens? I'm a collard person myself. I suppose i could

experiment but i'm wondering how it will taste.

elaine

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--- In , " Elaine " <itchyink@s...>

wrote:

> I was reading with interest about fermenting kale in kimchi. has

anyone just

> fermented straight greens? I'm a collard person myself. I suppose i

could

> experiment but i'm wondering how it will taste.

> elaine

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Sure, that's pretty common, especially with mustard greens in Asia.

I've done kale, but the flavor is not very exciting. I prefer to mix

it with stuff like in baechu-kimchi. Sometime I'll try a standard

kimchi with kale replacing all the cabbage. There's a lifetime of

experimentation in these things...

At high salt concentrations or with vinegar instead of salt brine,

veggies are preserved without fermentation. I'm not so sure which of

the common preserved greens are actually fermented or not. The

Vietnamese supermarkets near me have entire huge aisles of just

pickled veggies/fruits/seeds in jars, with dozens of types of plants

used, and there are stashes of pickled mustard greens all over the

place much like you'd find islands of Pepsi or something in a US

supermarket. Besides the mustard greens, which are sometimes in

vinegar, but I think also actually fermented in some cases, I've

tried pickled sadao leaves, young tamarind leaves, and caparid

leaves. I think at least one or two of these are actually fermented,

but I really don't know. They are all pungent and unpalatable, but

I've never had the fresh versions of these leaves to compare to.

Pickled jackfruit is pleasant though.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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>I was reading with interest about fermenting kale in kimchi. has anyone just

>fermented straight greens? I'm a collard person myself. I suppose i could

>experiment but i'm wondering how it will taste.

>elaine

I've used collards as a " cover " for my kimchi, though not by itself.

Tasted fine.

In the kimchi group a recipe was posted for straight

mustard greens ... see below ... I haven't tried this yet ...

Some of the other versions of this recipe say to set the mustard

greens out in the sun to wilt them first, and use 5 tsp of salt to

4 cups water.

-- Heidi

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Take a bunch (1 lb.) of mustard greens and rinse them to remove excess dirt, set

aside, it is okay to let them wilt this is desireable.

Melt 2 tsp. of salt and 1 TBS. of sugar in 4 cups of boiling water, then let

this cool completely to room temp.

Chop 3 green onions (scallions) into small pieces, combine with the greens in a

glass jar and pour the brine over them (enough to cover) and let marinate all

day or overnight. It is ready to start eating, or you can let it set for up to

three days at room temp. then refrigerate unused portions for up to three

months.

Remember any ferment is a hightly personal dish, so please don't hesitate to

make adjustments for your tastes.

-- Heidi Jean

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