Guest guest Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 >Suze- > >>actually i think you are *under-enthusiastic* :-) the fact that some >>unscrupulous producers goose their brix by spraying sugar water is for all >>intents and purposes irrelavant. > >No it's not, because it indicates a deficiency in the measurement. > If you say > >> It's the only way to actually KNOW the quality >> of the food you eat. everything else is just >> educated guessing, > >you're saying that brix readings are an absolute measure of food >quality. no i'm not saying that. i'm saying that you CAN get an accurate measurement of food quality using a refractometer. it's been done and is being done by many folks already and as i previously mentioned, high brix readings consistently correlate with healthy, disease- and pest-resistant crops, which produce abundant and disease resistant " offspring " and that these foods routinely taste MUCH better than low brix foods. additionally, animals that feed on high breed pasture and feed are healthy and disease resistant, while animals on low brix feed (think " factory farms " ) are consistently in poor health. now i haven't read carey reams work yet, but my understanding is that he found a correlation between soil fertility and brix, but i don't know the specifics. maybe michael does. in fact the whole concept started with soil fertility. i don't know all the details yet because i haven't read reams work, or dr. anderson's, but i will post more when i do. however, if you just hang out on the brix talk list for a little while you will begin to understand how useful a refractometer is for measuring the nutritional quality of foods. it's not perfect, but it's the most affordable accurate measurement we have for the average citizen or farmer to test the quality of their food. furthermore, there IS a way to get around the sugar-spray spiking should it happen (which i think would be quite rare or non-existant for the things we are testing), although i don't know the details about it. i think there's more info on it at the brixpage site. The fact that you can goose them with sugar sprays is by itself >sufficient to disprove that assertion, but there are further drawbacks, >such as the fact that brix readings are ONLY useful relative to other brix >readings of the exact same strain of the exact same food. Not only can >honey not be compared to apples, Granny s cannot be compared to >Winesaps -- and different varieties of Granny s can't be compared to >each other either! actually, there's a different scale of measurement and different refractometer for honey than there is for produce. the one we are talking about is for plants. and i fail to understand how the relative readings disprove anything. the original brix scale for x,y,z plants, as i understand it, was based on reams experiments based on the health of the plants he tested. for example, he found that " x " brix for potatoes (or whatever) corresponded with disease-resistance. whereas the same plant at low brix was not. there's a consistent correlation with brix level and health of plants. that's really the crux of the matter. Furthermore, brix measures total dissolved solids. As >anyone in chemistry can tell you, that's not very illuminating by >itself. Those solids can be any old darn thing. > >That said, obviously brix is useful -- when all else is held equal. But >you're not measuring actual food quality, just a possible implication of >relative quality. i'm not sure what other dissolved solids you'd expect to find in a plant aside from its nutrients? but regardless, as i've said again and again, the correlation between high brix and healthy plants has been consistently noted not only by reams but by those experienced in agriculture and using refractometers. of course the refractometer doesn't tell you that your corn stalk has precisely 2000 units of vitamin A and so on - i'm not saying it's that specific about nutrient measurement, but i think it goes beyond simple " implication " . at least that seems to be the case according to all i've read about those experienced in ag and brix. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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