RE: The Glutenator - starring Heidi S.

[Guest guest]

> >Did you know Bush's Crawford Texas ranch is geothermally heated and

cooled

> >to 70 degrees year round?

> >

> >Wanita

>

> Hmmmm ... now if he would encourage that to be available

> to more folks instead of burning coal ...

>

> -- Helga

Geothermal is pretty interesting. Doing some around here. Initially, costly

just like solar, wind but no cost eventually once you save over the years on

energy bills. Think its like digging an artesian well, deeper they have to

go to get the geological energy more it costs. Only problem I see with mass

geothermal is the same predicted with oil. You remove or manipulate too much

from beneath the earth and the earth will eventually react back.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 3/3/04 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> heidis@t... writes:

>

> > We intend to push for legislation to

> > return to the pre-Nixon system, where crops are bought by the

government

> > when prices drop too low (bumper years) and the government then

sells

> > them at a profit when prices are high (lean years).

>

> That's a great idea-- then farmer's will be encouraged to invest in

crops

> that have no market. This wreaked havoc during the Great

Depression, by the way,

> and caused massive suffering and economic disaster.

>

> This system ensure

> > the health of all farms without costing the taxpayers anything,

> >

> Umm, so where does the government get the money to buy the crops?

Taxpayers?

>

> Chris

> <><><><><><><><><><Hey Maybe they get the money from profits

from previous sales(as described above during lean years). Dennis

>

>

[Guest guest]

> She's clobbered the gluten thugs and sent them running from her own

clan.

> Now she's coming to your neighborhood. Watch The Glutenator tackle

Rowdy

> Rye, Bad Barley, and Wise Guy Wheat using nothing but her sorghum

> breadstick. Think you can't give up that wheat pizza? Well, think

again...

<><><<><><><><>She's (Heidi)scared me long enough!! I'm going back

to baking with gluten however I will add 1/4 milo for a test (without

xanthan gum). I got xanthan from China a few weeks ago and I don't

trust that much. It's made from some microbial process in China. So

for me its back to sticky buns with KANSAS hard red winter

wheat,eggs,lard,salt,sweetener, yeast,pecans and maybe even condensed

milk from a can! Thinking about setting it up in a U-haul box van and

selling on a street corner near you. Gotta pay for the farm and

ecology and all that and beat the inspectors or prices will rise!!!

DENNIS

[Guest guest]

> > She's clobbered the gluten thugs and sent them running from her

own

> clan.

> > Now she's coming to your neighborhood. Watch The Glutenator

tackle

> Rowdy

> > Rye, Bad Barley, and Wise Guy Wheat using nothing but her sorghum

> > breadstick. Think you can't give up that wheat pizza? Well,

think

> again...

>

>

>

> <><><<><><><><>She's (Heidi)scared me long enough!!

Thinking about this statement I probably should have said , " just

kidding " so you don't take it serious! When I read your posts

regarding gluten allergies I felt like I had some of the symptoms

too, esp after you covered the problems numerous times BUT now, a

year or so later, I think I'll get back on and ride again. Maybe

it'll go away. Anyway Heidi thanks for all the insight regarding

casein and gluten allergies. Dennis

I'm going back

> to baking with gluten however I will add 1/4 milo for a test

(without

> xanthan gum). I got xanthan from China a few weeks ago and I don't

> trust that much. It's made from some microbial process in China.

So

> for me its back to sticky buns with KANSAS hard red winter

> wheat,eggs,lard,salt,sweetener, yeast,pecans and maybe even

condensed

> milk from a can! Thinking about setting it up in a U-haul box van

and

> selling on a street corner near you. Gotta pay for the farm and

> ecology and all that and beat the inspectors or prices will rise!!!

> DENNIS

[Guest guest]

>Geothermal is pretty interesting. Doing some around here. Initially, costly

>just like solar, wind but no cost eventually once you save over the years on

>energy bills. Think its like digging an artesian well, deeper they have to

>go to get the geological energy more it costs. Only problem I see with mass

>geothermal is the same predicted with oil. You remove or manipulate too much

>from beneath the earth and the earth will eventually react back.

>

>Wanita

We actually have a heat pump, but it uses the temp differential between

the upstairs (lots of windows, gets too hot) with the downstairs (cooler) and

stores the heat in the hot water heater (which can heat the floors). Which

doesn't

manipulate the earth much. It is kind of mindblowing at first. Very simple

system

though.

-- Helga

[Guest guest]

>That's a great idea-- then farmer's will be encouraged to invest in crops

>that have no market. This wreaked havoc during the Great Depression, by the

way,

>and caused massive suffering and economic disaster.

Right now they overplant in years they know there will be low prices,

which drive prices lower. So we have a glut of corn which is flooding

our market and the foreign markets, creating massive suffering and economic

disaster.

This particular system was used for 50 years, successfully! It was cancelled, it

is said, because Nixon wanted lower food prices to offset the higher energy

prices (oil prices went up).

>This system ensure

>> the health of all farms without costing the taxpayers anything,

>>

>Umm, so where does the government get the money to buy the crops? Taxpayers?

Sometimes. However, it generally turned a PROFIT so it was considered a

profit maker, not an expense. There was a great writup on it in the NYT a year

or

so ago. FAR cheaper than the current " subsidy " system.

-- Helga

[Guest guest]

>> <><><<><><><><>She's (Heidi)scared me long enough!!

>

>Thinking about this statement I probably should have said , " just

>kidding " so you don't take it serious! When I read your posts

>regarding gluten allergies I felt like I had some of the symptoms

>too, esp after you covered the problems numerous times BUT now, a

>year or so later, I think I'll get back on and ride again. Maybe

>it'll go away. Anyway Heidi thanks for all the insight regarding

>casein and gluten allergies. Dennis

Maybe it'll go away. You should read the studies on your own

though. It's not my place to scare you! But " gluten allergies "

don't always have symptoms ...statistically only 1/3 of the people

have recognizable symptoms.

BTW I went to a gluten-intolerance meeting and THERE they

regard me as " the weird kefir person " -- my views on gluten

are rather conservative for THAT group but the kefir thing

just scares the heck out of them.

-- Helga