Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 ******* But my body reacted rather strongly (like going into withdrawals, really, I could barely move) which convinced me that for me, gluten is a psychoactive drug. Doing trials with it after I went off it for some time further convinced me. But not everyone has *any* symptoms, I was lucky that way. -- Heidi ******* Heidi, Aren't the gluten derived opiates a problem for everyone and directly related to dose issues and habituation to such narcotics ? Yes, I call gluten a narcotic and have seen its real effects in . I think these peptides are at least present for everyone, even though not everyone *notices* the reactions or addictions presented with each dose. The addiction is insidious. As it was mentioned by some recently, tell people that gluten foods may be inappropriate for individuals under their care and what happens? They say 'we just can't live without our wheat/rye/barley!' Is this not indicative of addiction, especially when a real physiological condition in the patient can be attributed to each dose? Yet denial, rejection and disinterest just happen to come from those caregivers on whom the patient must depend. Oh yes, I am quite sure it runs in the family. In my case, it was easy to help . Only in my ignorance and the more subtlety it plays in my physiology, it took a few more years to get the picture. And a neurological picture it is for me, pretty exclusively. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 >Heidi, > >Aren't the gluten derived opiates a problem for everyone and directly >related to dose issues and habituation to such narcotics ? Yes, I call >gluten a narcotic and have seen its real effects in . > >I think these peptides are at least present for everyone, even though not >everyone *notices* the reactions or addictions presented with each dose. >The addiction is insidious. As it was mentioned by some recently, tell >people that gluten foods may be inappropriate for individuals under their >care and what happens? They say 'we just can't live without our >wheat/rye/barley!' Is this not indicative of addiction, especially when a >real physiological condition in the patient can be attributed to each dose? >Yet denial, rejection and disinterest just happen to come from those >caregivers on whom the patient must depend. Oh yes, I am quite sure it runs >in the family. I HAVE noticed that the reaction to even the THOUGHT of a gluten free life is very similar to that of an addict being asked to give up the addictive substance! It's incredible the reactions people get ... it's almost as incendiary as religious or political questions. The researchers are rather sure it affects people neurologically. They are divided as to whether it is really an " opiate " reaction or not. Since the blood/brain barrier may be compromised, all kinds of chemicals may be involved. Yet they can trace opiate compounds in Autistic kid's urine. When my GYN heard I'd given up wheat, his first reaction was, " but how can you live without pizza??? " . Ack! Talk about the blind leading the blind! >In my case, it was easy to help . Only in my ignorance and the more >subtlety it plays in my physiology, it took a few more years to get the >picture. And a neurological picture it is for me, pretty exclusively. Yeah, and the neurology hasn't been studied near as much. Everyone thinks gluten intolerance is a gut thing, but my gut symptoms I cleared up a long time before with probiotic pills. That didn't help my brain! I am lucky in that my family pretty much will eat whatever I cook and tends to believe what I say ... I don't know where I'd be if they insisted on wheat-bread pizza once a week. The family is MUCH calmer now, but they used to have anger outbursts regularly, which I now think were a wheat thing. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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