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hey - so there's two things i'm wondering about in relation to nutrition:

first, eye problems like myopia or hyperopia and astigmatism - these are

because the eye isn't shaped the way it expected to be, and they're also

blisteringly common. but the thing is, i just don't see how they were

nearly as common a few hundred years ago...so either people just livd with

the near/far sightedness or they didn't have it. any thoughts?

also, while we're talking about skin and stuff...my brother has

dematigraphism - my brother had this quite severely as a child, but now

that he's an adult, it's not nearly as bad. it's certainly still there but

he's much more tolerant of the things that cause a break out (like

inadvertent fabric softener, for example). i can't remember *when* it

started, but i'm betting it started after he started getting food. any

thoughts?

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In a message dated 3/5/04 9:22:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, katja@...

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> hey - so there's two things i'm wondering about in relation to nutrition:

> first, eye problems like myopia or hyperopia and astigmatism - these are

> because the eye isn't shaped the way it expected to be, and they're also

> blisteringly common. but the thing is, i just don't see how they were

> nearly as common a few hundred years ago...so either people just livd with

> the near/far sightedness or they didn't have it. any thoughts?

Mercola posted some info once that seemed to link myopia to grains. He

suggested insulin resistance, though it could have been immune as well. The

evidence was essentially that hunter-gatherers don't have myopia, which is

commonly

recognized but usually attributed to lack of reading, but that

hunter-gatherers who become civilized and have compulory schooling but don't

adopt grain-rich

diets don't have myopia.

But also, genetics may play a role, as previously someone with poor eyesight

may have just been much more likely to die young in an accident.

Chris

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>> > hey - so there's two things i'm wondering about in

>> relation to nutrition:

>> > first, eye problems like myopia or hyperopia and

>> astigmatism - these are

>> > because the eye isn't shaped the way it expected

>> to be, and they're also

>> > blisteringly common. but the thing is, i just

>> don't see how they were

>> > nearly as common a few hundred years ago...so

>> either people just livd with

>> > the near/far sightedness or they didn't have it.

>> any thoughts?

What's always intrigued me is that the issues of:

1. Myopia

2. Crowded teeth

3. " crowded " sinuses

4. " Thin " faces

are all related to connective tissue disorders (like Marfans)

as well as " the diseases of modern commerce " that Price

mentioned. Marfan's is clearly hereditary, yet must have

an environmental component because the gene isn't rare,

and it is dominant. Marfan's also causes weak arteries ...

anyway, I think there is a common cause to all of the above.

Whatever it is, our ancestors didn't get it. Bad eyesight is

decidedly a deadly disease in a world where panthers and bears

might be hunting you and your ability to fetch prey decide

whether you go hungry or not.... it's highly unlikely many folk

had bad eyesight in those days. It's a modern disease.

-- Heidi Jean

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In a message dated 3/5/04 7:29:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jopollack2001@... writes:

> I have read a couple of articles in New Scientist

> which link refined starch consumption to myopia.

> however it is ONLY myopia it is linked to, not

> astigmatism or hyperopia (does that mean long

> sighted?)

In myopia, the picture is focused slightly before the retina, and in

hyperopia the picture is focused slightly behind the retina-- so in each, the

retina

receives an unfocused " picture. "

Chris

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In a message dated 3/6/04 6:36:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jopollack2001@... writes:

> Atigmatism

> though is different - it's 2 focal points in the eye I

> believe. It is more to do with the retina than the

> lens (an optician can tell by looking at the retina

> whether a person is astigmatic).

Astigmatism is an irregular curvature of the cornea or lens. It really

doesn't have anything to do with the retina, except indirectly.

Chris

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