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interesting. I've never heard of this, has anyone?I cannot imagine a kid agreeing to do this though.

===>Ours LOVED being held upside down as a toddler and small child, she would have done this in a heartbeat.

natasa x"How my world turned upside down - Inversion Tables in the world of HBO by Donna I lived 35 years with two primary immune deficiencies and their impact on blood health and circulation before overcoming them (which I wrote of in the book Everyday Heaven). I'm now in my 40s and although my immune deficiencies are in remission, I still nurse a genetic tendency to systemic inflammation which I tend to manage with L-Glutamine. Translated, I'm more susceptible to arthritic issues and joint trouble than many people and I still regularly get things like edema (which I also manage with Dandelion coffee).Anyway, I had been on an inversion table, which literally straps you in and turns you upside down, in my 20s and this stretches out the spine which feels really good but it also sends blood flow to the brain and gets stagnant blood pooling flowing healthily.So now in my 40s, I bought one on the cheap.Tipping myself back up, my body tingles as the blood flows back the other way then back I go, upside down just by raising my arms over my head like a one person see-saw, and the blood flows the other way back to my brain again. It's like being a human milk shake ;-)With the megabucks families are paying for time in hyperbaric oxygen chambers (around $100-$200 per TREATMENT!) and with their makers and hirers reaping in that money which families need for the rest of their daily living, I got my blood oxygen happy with a cheapo inversion table from good ol' Ebay for $73 bucks (they often go for over $200 but I got lucky). The inversion table involves no claustrophobia as you're not zipped into a coffin-like baloon capsule. In fact I feel rather like a bat or an astronaut hanging upside down and I'm able to completely control it myself just by raising and lowering my arms to shift the see-saw like balance.You can check out inversion tables at some chiropractic clinics before you decide to buy one. They're not for everyone, but they're surely cheaper than HBO treatment."Donna http://www.donnawilliams.net

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From: Neno/Natasa

interesting. I've never heard of this, has anyone?I cannot imagine a kid agreeing to do this though.

===>Ours LOVED being held upside down as a toddler and small child, she would have done this in a heartbeat.

natasa x"How my world turned upside down - Inversion Tables in the world of HBO by Donna I lived 35 years with two primary immune deficiencies and their impact on blood health and circulation before overcoming them (which I wrote of in the book Everyday Heaven). I'm now in my 40s and although my immune deficiencies are in remission, I still nurse a genetic tendency to systemic inflammation which I tend to manage with L-Glutamine. Translated, I'm more susceptible to arthritic issues and joint trouble than many people and I still regularly get things like edema (which I also manage with Dandelion coffee).Anyway, I had been on an inversion table, which literally straps you in and turns you upside down, in my 20s and this stretches out the spine which feels really good but it also sends blood flow to the brain and gets stagnant blood pooling flowing healthily.So now in my 40s, I bought one on the cheap.Tipping myself back up, my body tingles as the blood flows back the other way then back I go, upside down just by raising my arms over my head like a one person see-saw, and the blood flows the other way back to my brain again. It's like being a human milk shake ;-)With the megabucks families are paying for time in hyperbaric oxygen chambers (around $100-$200 per TREATMENT!) and with their makers and hirers reaping in that money which families need for the rest of their daily living, I got my blood oxygen happy with a cheapo inversion table from good ol' Ebay for $73 bucks (they often go for over $200 but I got lucky). The inversion table involves no claustrophobia as you're not zipped into a coffin-like baloon capsule. In fact I feel rather like a bat or an astronaut hanging upside down and I'm able to completely control it myself just by raising and lowering my arms to shift the see-saw like balance.You can check out inversion tables at some chiropractic clinics before you decide to buy one. They're not for everyone, but they're surely cheaper than HBO treatment."Donna http://www.donnawilliams.net

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The upside down idea is very old indeed.

Hang around long enough and everything re-appears, sometimes dressed up as "new". Sonrise has been "new" at least 3 times since my kids were dx.

Vicky

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The upside down idea is very old indeed.

Hang around long enough and everything re-appears, sometimes dressed up as "new". Sonrise has been "new" at least 3 times since my kids were dx.

Vicky

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> Ummmm! I dont know if this does same as HBOT? Let me know as I cant

> afford 60quid a dive for ds when he is ready.

An inversion table (or the inversion boots, or anything like that)

isn't at all the same thing as HBOT. Comparing them as similar

therapies shows an ignorance of what hbot does. I think there is a

certain prejudice in the article evidenced by the word coffin, for

example :-)

There are some places in the UK where kids can dive for 10 quid. Quite

a few MS centres where kids dive for 20. Some where parents are even

given free use of chambers if they take the operating course. Caudwell

also funds hbot. There was an article in a fairly recent TA newsletter

about this. I've read about kids recovered from hbot alone. I don't

think hanging a kid upside down would do that. My own kid has hung

upside down for pretty big chunks of his life and that hasn't fixed his

bowels like hbot does. It wish it did. Save the driving for us.

Anita

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> Ummmm! I dont know if this does same as HBOT? Let me know as I cant

> afford 60quid a dive for ds when he is ready.

An inversion table (or the inversion boots, or anything like that)

isn't at all the same thing as HBOT. Comparing them as similar

therapies shows an ignorance of what hbot does. I think there is a

certain prejudice in the article evidenced by the word coffin, for

example :-)

There are some places in the UK where kids can dive for 10 quid. Quite

a few MS centres where kids dive for 20. Some where parents are even

given free use of chambers if they take the operating course. Caudwell

also funds hbot. There was an article in a fairly recent TA newsletter

about this. I've read about kids recovered from hbot alone. I don't

think hanging a kid upside down would do that. My own kid has hung

upside down for pretty big chunks of his life and that hasn't fixed his

bowels like hbot does. It wish it did. Save the driving for us.

Anita

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what it may do, though is be helping her adrenals,

> >

> > Ummmm! I dont know if this does same as HBOT? Let me know as I

cant

> > afford 60quid a dive for ds when he is ready.

>

>

> An inversion table (or the inversion boots, or anything like that)

> isn't at all the same thing as HBOT. Comparing them as similar

> therapies shows an ignorance of what hbot does. I think there is a

> certain prejudice in the article evidenced by the word coffin, for

> example :-)

>

> There are some places in the UK where kids can dive for 10 quid.

Quite

> a few MS centres where kids dive for 20. Some where parents are

even

> given free use of chambers if they take the operating course.

Caudwell

> also funds hbot. There was an article in a fairly recent TA

newsletter

> about this. I've read about kids recovered from hbot alone. I

don't

> think hanging a kid upside down would do that. My own kid has hung

> upside down for pretty big chunks of his life and that hasn't fixed

his

> bowels like hbot does. It wish it did. Save the driving for us.

>

> Anita

>

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what it may do, though is be helping her adrenals,

> >

> > Ummmm! I dont know if this does same as HBOT? Let me know as I

cant

> > afford 60quid a dive for ds when he is ready.

>

>

> An inversion table (or the inversion boots, or anything like that)

> isn't at all the same thing as HBOT. Comparing them as similar

> therapies shows an ignorance of what hbot does. I think there is a

> certain prejudice in the article evidenced by the word coffin, for

> example :-)

>

> There are some places in the UK where kids can dive for 10 quid.

Quite

> a few MS centres where kids dive for 20. Some where parents are

even

> given free use of chambers if they take the operating course.

Caudwell

> also funds hbot. There was an article in a fairly recent TA

newsletter

> about this. I've read about kids recovered from hbot alone. I

don't

> think hanging a kid upside down would do that. My own kid has hung

> upside down for pretty big chunks of his life and that hasn't fixed

his

> bowels like hbot does. It wish it did. Save the driving for us.

>

> Anita

>

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I haven't tried it because of this fear. My knowledge of biochemistry

is almost nil, but I do know that with Infantile Spasms, which he had

as a baby one theory is that they happen because glutamate levels are

too high and GABA too low.

Margaret

>

> On the subject of L Glutamine, my experience was fantastic for the

gut, BM's

> perfect colour and consistency BUT absolutely raging, excitotoxin,

dreadful

> behaviours.

> In hindsight I'm glad in my ignorance that I used it on

because it

> certainly reached the parts nothing else could, but have never gone

back to it

> for fear of the rages.

> There are so many things in this category for , Vit C, B Vits,

SNT,

> Calcium, Milk thistle that had a positive response in terms of

general health but

> just couldn't be tolerated otherwise, to the point the side effects

were far

> worse than the gains.

> Vicky

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And as I have posted many times over the years, his seizures stopped

when prescribed 100mg B6 daily!

Margaret

> > >

> > > On the subject of L Glutamine, my experience was fantastic for

the

> > gut, BM's

> > > perfect colour and consistency BUT absolutely raging,

excitotoxin,

> > dreadful

> > > behaviours.

> > > In hindsight I'm glad in my ignorance that I used it on

> > because it

> > > certainly reached the parts nothing else could, but have never

gone

> > back to it

> > > for fear of the rages.

> > > There are so many things in this category for , Vit C, B

Vits,

> > SNT,

> > > Calcium, Milk thistle that had a positive response in terms of

> > general health but

> > > just couldn't be tolerated otherwise, to the point the side

effects

> > were far

> > > worse than the gains.

> > > Vicky

> > >

> >

> >

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And as I have posted many times over the years, his seizures stopped

when prescribed 100mg B6 daily!

Margaret

> > >

> > > On the subject of L Glutamine, my experience was fantastic for

the

> > gut, BM's

> > > perfect colour and consistency BUT absolutely raging,

excitotoxin,

> > dreadful

> > > behaviours.

> > > In hindsight I'm glad in my ignorance that I used it on

> > because it

> > > certainly reached the parts nothing else could, but have never

gone

> > back to it

> > > for fear of the rages.

> > > There are so many things in this category for , Vit C, B

Vits,

> > SNT,

> > > Calcium, Milk thistle that had a positive response in terms of

> > general health but

> > > just couldn't be tolerated otherwise, to the point the side

effects

> > were far

> > > worse than the gains.

> > > Vicky

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:

30/11/2008 17:53

> >

>

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No - he prescribed it to see if it would work to control the

epilepsy - it is well-known that it works in a minority of cases of

Infantile Spasms.

Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > On the subject of L Glutamine, my experience was fantastic

for

> > the

> > > > gut, BM's

> > > > > perfect colour and consistency BUT absolutely raging,

> > excitotoxin,

> > > > dreadful

> > > > > behaviours.

> > > > > In hindsight I'm glad in my ignorance that I used it on

> > > > because it

> > > > > certainly reached the parts nothing else could, but have

never

> > gone

> > > > back to it

> > > > > for fear of the rages.

> > > > > There are so many things in this category for , Vit C, B

> > Vits,

> > > > SNT,

> > > > > Calcium, Milk thistle that had a positive response in terms

of

> > > > general health but

> > > > > just couldn't be tolerated otherwise, to the point the side

> > effects

> > > > were far

> > > > > worse than the gains.

> > > > > Vicky

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release

Date:

> > 30/11/2008 17:53

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:

30/11/2008 17:53

> >

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