Re: LipTrainer - weak lip/mouth muscles

[Guest guest]

> ds with lip closure. He finds it very difficult to close his mouth

and

> is always got his mouth wide open, both whilst asleep and awake, he

> suffers from dry mouth, sore throats and cracked lips. He seems to

> have very weak mouth/lip muscles but I was wondering if it would be

easy

> to use with a child.

This is so common with our kids isn't it? I was going to ask a question

on this, ie is there any exercise or gadget anyone has found

particularly helpful in dealing with the loose jaw/mouth thing? I know

you can do blowing bubbles, I wonder for how long per day you would

need to do it to make a real difference.

Charlotte

[Guest guest]

Sorry Sara I didn't see your post and thanks for your ideas.

I did read the Buteyko book a while back and thought it was really

interesting. I don't have asthma or daytime sinus problems BUT every

morning when I wake up my nose is bunged up. The Boutenko book says

this is because I overbreathe in the night (and I certainly do) and

overbreathing causes the nose to congest. It explains how to hold your

breath a bit to release your nose - sorry I've not got it here and not

sure I do it right BUT I can now unblock my nose in the mornings quite

easily. I've managed to stop mouth breathing in the day - Tim points

out whenever I lapse. They say the Boutenko breathing is good for

asthma - but again I'm not expert.

The Buteyko book convinced me to try to change my breathing and I have

been taping my mouth up on and off for months. Tim thinks it's a great

idea :-)!!!!! Actually it is just awful when he makes me laugh ...

But I got mouth sores and then a blister on LDM which made it

difficult - I also gave Eddie a fright one night when I couldn't

unstick fast enough. We've been trying to think of alternatives - we

even wondered about a kind of Marley contraption .... but we're

also trying to improve lymph drainage ... (What a sad case I am :-)!)

Fingers-crossed the lip-trainer will help but I'm keen for new ideas

and we may be able to work something better out with taping up.

Found a link on - unblocking

http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm

Maybe it can be bought in the UK??

http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/

(It looks like one supplier is a Buteyko specialist).

Best wishes,

Sandyx

[Guest guest]

Sorry Sara I didn't see your post and thanks for your ideas.

I did read the Buteyko book a while back and thought it was really

interesting. I don't have asthma or daytime sinus problems BUT every

morning when I wake up my nose is bunged up. The Boutenko book says

this is because I overbreathe in the night (and I certainly do) and

overbreathing causes the nose to congest. It explains how to hold your

breath a bit to release your nose - sorry I've not got it here and not

sure I do it right BUT I can now unblock my nose in the mornings quite

easily. I've managed to stop mouth breathing in the day - Tim points

out whenever I lapse. They say the Boutenko breathing is good for

asthma - but again I'm not expert.

The Buteyko book convinced me to try to change my breathing and I have

been taping my mouth up on and off for months. Tim thinks it's a great

idea :-)!!!!! Actually it is just awful when he makes me laugh ...

But I got mouth sores and then a blister on LDM which made it

difficult - I also gave Eddie a fright one night when I couldn't

unstick fast enough. We've been trying to think of alternatives - we

even wondered about a kind of Marley contraption .... but we're

also trying to improve lymph drainage ... (What a sad case I am :-)!)

Fingers-crossed the lip-trainer will help but I'm keen for new ideas

and we may be able to work something better out with taping up.

Found a link on - unblocking

http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm

Maybe it can be bought in the UK??

http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/

(It looks like one supplier is a Buteyko specialist).

Best wishes,

Sandyx

[Guest guest]

Wow - that is interesting Sandy, thanks very much for that. If I ever

get round to treating myself I will definitely give your gadget a go

(doesn't the tape hurt?)

Sara

Sandy and Tim wrote:

>

> Sorry Sara I didn't see your post and thanks for your ideas.

>

> I did read the Buteyko book a while back and thought it was really

> interesting. I don't have asthma or daytime sinus problems BUT every

> morning when I wake up my nose is bunged up. The Boutenko book says

> this is because I overbreathe in the night (and I certainly do) and

> overbreathing causes the nose to congest. It explains how to hold your

> breath a bit to release your nose - sorry I've not got it here and not

> sure I do it right BUT I can now unblock my nose in the mornings quite

> easily. I've managed to stop mouth breathing in the day - Tim points

> out whenever I lapse. They say the Boutenko breathing is good for

> asthma - but again I'm not expert.

>

> The Buteyko book convinced me to try to change my breathing and I have

> been taping my mouth up on and off for months. Tim thinks it's a great

> idea :-)!!!!! Actually it is just awful when he makes me laugh ...

>

> But I got mouth sores and then a blister on LDM which made it

> difficult - I also gave Eddie a fright one night when I couldn't

> unstick fast enough. We've been trying to think of alternatives - we

> even wondered about a kind of Marley contraption .... but we're

> also trying to improve lymph drainage ... (What a sad case I am :-)!)

>

> Fingers-crossed the lip-trainer will help but I'm keen for new ideas

> and we may be able to work something better out with taping up.

>

> Found a link on - unblocking

> http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm

> <http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm>

>

> Maybe it can be bought in the UK??

> http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/ <http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/>

> (It looks like one supplier is a Buteyko specialist).

>

> Best wishes,

> Sandyx

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow - that is interesting Sandy, thanks very much for that. If I ever

get round to treating myself I will definitely give your gadget a go

(doesn't the tape hurt?)

Sara

Sandy and Tim wrote:

>

> Sorry Sara I didn't see your post and thanks for your ideas.

>

> I did read the Buteyko book a while back and thought it was really

> interesting. I don't have asthma or daytime sinus problems BUT every

> morning when I wake up my nose is bunged up. The Boutenko book says

> this is because I overbreathe in the night (and I certainly do) and

> overbreathing causes the nose to congest. It explains how to hold your

> breath a bit to release your nose - sorry I've not got it here and not

> sure I do it right BUT I can now unblock my nose in the mornings quite

> easily. I've managed to stop mouth breathing in the day - Tim points

> out whenever I lapse. They say the Boutenko breathing is good for

> asthma - but again I'm not expert.

>

> The Buteyko book convinced me to try to change my breathing and I have

> been taping my mouth up on and off for months. Tim thinks it's a great

> idea :-)!!!!! Actually it is just awful when he makes me laugh ...

>

> But I got mouth sores and then a blister on LDM which made it

> difficult - I also gave Eddie a fright one night when I couldn't

> unstick fast enough. We've been trying to think of alternatives - we

> even wondered about a kind of Marley contraption .... but we're

> also trying to improve lymph drainage ... (What a sad case I am :-)!)

>

> Fingers-crossed the lip-trainer will help but I'm keen for new ideas

> and we may be able to work something better out with taping up.

>

> Found a link on - unblocking

> http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm

> <http://www.buteykocourses.com/blockednose.htm>

>

> Maybe it can be bought in the UK??

> http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/ <http://www.liptrainer.com/shop/>

> (It looks like one supplier is a Buteyko specialist).

>

> Best wishes,

> Sandyx

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was at a conference recently where they discussed Talk Tools which are products to help with a variety of mouth difficulties.

http://www.talktools.net/s.nl/sc.23/.f

You can buy in the UK here

http://www.smile-education.net/talk/categories.php?cat=27 & PHPSESSID=3fb17611970734fe7df68fa65228d5ca

To be honest I was a little mind-boggled by the number of products and wasn't sure what would be best for my son so I emailed them a couple of weeks ago for advice but no one has got back to me. You might have a better idea of what you're looking for. My four year old son drooled until a few months ago and the thing that helped most was a specialist speech therapist who does lip exercises with him which we also do at home - just getting him to stick it out, to the sides, up and down, bubbles, horns, licking off a stick or spoon. He had no control of his tongue and this really helped, also has helped him make a lot more sounds now that he has some tongue control (he has severe apraxia). hope that helps

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: cylkev@...Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:47:18 +0000Subject: Re: LipTrainer - weak lip/mouth muscles

> ds with lip closure. He finds it very difficult to close his mouth and> is always got his mouth wide open, both whilst asleep and awake, he> suffers from dry mouth, sore throats and cracked lips. He seems to> have very weak mouth/lip muscles but I was wondering if it would be easy> to use with a child.This is so common with our kids isn't it? I was going to ask a question on this, ie is there any exercise or gadget anyone has found particularly helpful in dealing with the loose jaw/mouth thing? I know you can do blowing bubbles, I wonder for how long per day you would need to do it to make a real difference.Charlotte BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day. Search now

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

I can't say I got on well with the tape. I found a surgical tape that

isn't overly sticky if you know what I mean. But you still have to

take your time taking it off (oogey - but you wet it with saliva and it

lifts off - but if you rush its another story). You can put tissue

over your lips - but this didn't work perfectly for me either.

Best wishes,

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Wow - I never knew there were so many tools like this. It's

fascinating. Would be good to know what they say if they get back to

you.

Best wishes,

Sandy