Re: attitude problem with vegans

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>The One Life Eats Itself, Heidi.

Ah, the snake eating it's tail! About time for a comeback

on that, forget all this vegan falderol.

>> (am I dating myself? Has anyone read Stranger in a Strange Land?).

>

>But of course!

Wow, lots of folks have. How nice, I'm not as weird as I think

I am ...

-- Heidi Jean

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ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/18/04 2:02:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> lyn122@... writes:

>

>> It's so darn hard to eat that way I'd be self-righteous too!

>

> I'm sure it's easier than bread, salt, and water.

Where did that come from? I've been following this thread pretty

closely, but this looks like a total non-sequitur to me.

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In a message dated 3/19/04 2:26:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bberg@... writes:

> >>It's so darn hard to eat that way I'd be self-righteous too!

> >

> >I'm sure it's easier than bread, salt, and water.

>

> Where did that come from? I've been following this thread pretty

> closely, but this looks like a total non-sequitur to me.

Lol! I guess it is, isn't it? I won't bother trying to justify that

comment, but I will say that I believe the self-righteousness proceeds from the

ideology of the diet itself, which has self-righteousness, and not compassion,

as a

basis. I was vegetarian and also vegan for a period, and this is my opinion

based on experience, including my retrospective judgment of my own views.

Chris

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I've had a few vegetarians in our company, and since we share

lunch, it gets personal! We've had other folks with dietary

restrictions, but the vegies tend to be really judgemental, which

might be the problem. I mean, when you eat a nice rare steak

in front of one, they stare like you were a child molester or

mass murderer.

Heidi,

I hope I'm not repeating what others have said on this threat, I

didn't read it all. But I wanted to toss in a comment. Who are they to

pass judgment on you? I know what you mean about how they look at you,

but if you feel guilty when they look at you, that's something you can

control. Noone can make YOU feel guilty but you

just remind yourself that their principle of not killing animals is a

false one and don't let a drop of guilt enter your mind. Just smile

back at them. And look at them like, how could they eat that nasty tofu

burger when millions of bunny rabbits (insert any other small animal

that lives in a field) died for it and they don't even acknowledge it.

Or at least, that might make you feel a bit better.

[Guest guest]

>Heidi,

> I hope I'm not repeating what others have said on this threat, I

>didn't read it all. But I wanted to toss in a comment. Who are they to

>pass judgment on you? I know what you mean about how they look at you,

>but if you feel guilty when they look at you, that's something you can

>control. Noone can make YOU feel guilty but you

>just remind yourself that their principle of not killing animals is a

>false one and don't let a drop of guilt enter your mind. Just smile

>back at them. And look at them like, how could they eat that nasty tofu

>burger when millions of bunny rabbits (insert any other small animal

>that lives in a field) died for it and they don't even acknowledge it.

>Or at least, that might make you feel a bit better.

Thanks! Actually my problem isn't " guilt " so much as that

as hostess I feel it is my job to make everyone comfortable

and happy (as far as that is possible, anyway, which of course

it is not, you can't please all the people all the time). A vegetarian

will not be happy while there are rare steaks sitting on the table,

and the very smell of that roasting meat will make them nauseated.

Now if they were really polite they would not make their feelings

QUITE so obvious!

Actually I eat my bloody-rare steaks more or less in private usually,

even though there aren't any vegans around now, because they

make my DH uncomfortable. And I tend to avoid eating my

whole dried fish (that look just like the ones that jump out

of the fish tank and you find them a month later) in public.

However, people are getting more used to this stuff. I just don't

relish confrontations. Plus, I ask THEM not to bring any wheat

into my presence (or into the house, in fact) so who am I to

talk about picky people?

-- Heidi Jean